quick04Z06

Keep us posted--would enjoy his feedback on the C8.

Like any new, clean-sheet-of-paper design, there will be a steep learning curve. However, I suspect the sky is almost the limit with turning. I can only imagine what just putting some Sport Cup 2Rs would do for the C8. Think of all of the spring and shock tuning options now that the car has lost the leaf springs. And of course bushing upgrades will be available. The future is really bright.

I had a stock 2009 Porsche Cayman S that I tracked some and it was a nice, balanced mid-engine car. I missed my big, V8 torque and am back to Corvettes but now it appears I can get the fine balance AND the grunt--a win-win!

NW-99SS

Plenty of dealers sold C8 allocations at cost. The CFTP GT500 will cost you dealer ADM without question, same as GT350Rs did for a long time. I'm impressed with the GT500 CFTP performance, but not at the price point. The ZL1 1LE accomplishes similar performance numbers (not straight line, but that's not what the 1LE or CFTP are for), for 20+K MSRP less - and that gap gets much larger with GT500 options and dealer ADM - plus you can choose manual or A10.

quick04Z06

Generally, tires are the single most effective modification you can made to a car for quicker lap times.

vndkshn

Not all dealers charge ADM... at least not to all customers. I was offered a 350R at MSRP and a Raptor at MSRP as well by my dealer. I'm sure if I called about a 500 (including the CFTP) they would let it go at MSRP. It's all about the relationship and what the dealer stands to lose if they get greedy.

NW-99SS

First CFTP GT500 allocation I've heard of without dealer ADM. Have spoken with plenty of previous GT500 owners, but I'm in Canada...so getting one can be more of a challenge here also. Previous Super Snake owner, and current owner of a Shelby Raptor was quoted $156K CDN for a CFTP GT500 without stripes by his dealer that didn't charge him ADMs on any of his other Fords, including multiple Super Duty Platinums.

bgspot

These are my sentiments except i've never owned a mustang. I will say i've gained lot of respect for Ford. Great time to be an American auto enthusiast.

Sin City

Why is this even a comparison? I don't get it.

RapidC84B

You realize you can call at least 10 dealers right now and still get a C8 custom spec'd for MSRP right?

You have it backward... when the C8 was quicker around the track than the C7 the C7 fanatics were acting like the C8 was on race tires... the P4S is an evolution of the MPSS... it's reportedly not all that much better when hot and in dry conditions (the MPSS is VERY good). The P4S is better in cold weather and has better road manners while still being very fast. It's not like the Cup Sport 2 which is a race tire that has the bare minimum to be street legal and really can't be driven in hard rains.

P4S


Cup Sport 2 R - Tires are over $700 a piece!

sunsalem

The comparison numbers are very interesting.
Hats off to the Ford guys.
They really did great work with this car.

Triplethefun

I dont know why track time is so important to so many people. Most of the races between the GT500 and C8 will be on the highway.

Racingswh

Since I don't drive my cars on the street it's relevant to me. I use it as a performance gauge knowing that most of the time the comparable cars I run across at track days will be driven slower than Randy drives them. I don't think the sampling of responders in this thread qualifies as "many people" relative to how many C8's will be built.

sunsalem

For 95% it's about Bragging RIghts.
I almost never see a Vette driver hot-footing his car....

Sin City

I imagine the Mustang people are pretty chagrin.

Their top of the line 760 HP supercharged track focused car is pretty close to the equal of the lower priced entry level model of a competitor with only 490 HP when driven side by side by the same driver on the same track.

I'm not sure I would celebrate

dar02081961

LOL, You and everyone here knows that is a BS statement!
The difference is huge. It begins with experience, skill and seat time at the limits, which results in repeat-ability and consistency.

If amateurs were equal to professionals in any sport or profession they would be doing it for a living.
I know a few guys that can throw 90mph fastballs, I only know one that could do it in the majors for a living.

Racingswh

You couldn't be more wrong when it comes to racing. Racing needs one thing that nearly all other sports don't require in such excess. Money and truckloads of it. Helps to have a **** ton of luck, unique marketability and be wicked quick as well.

Trebor

The GT-500 is far from Ford's base car. It's their bad boy performance Mustang. Stay tuned GT-500 .

RapidC84B

You realize most guys racing LeMans are just rich guys fast enough to keep pace right? What do you think a “Gentleman Driver” is?

Sports Car Road Racing is not NASCAR or F1. If I had enough money I could buys a seat at LeMans next year.

I’ve been driving VIR for 15 years and held a couple track records in my classes. That Camaro lap posted had very little to fix. It was a very good lap.

fasttoys

I think you need do more research before you post, Ford took over 5 years to release this new GT500. GM just like Ford releases the slowest version of any new generation first. The C8 is a all new platform and we have a few years till we see the faster Z. The new Ford GT500 is running on the 2015 platform, like I stated that’s 5 years from the original Ford GT release. The last GT500 produced was in 2013-2014 on the older platform.

sprayer

So how does that differ from GM taking 5 years to deliver the C8? Tadge already said when the C7 was revealed they were already working on the C8. So it took the same amount of time.

The timing is crap for GM though. They had the spot light and now Ford has taken it away.

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sunsalem

I have no idea why this Mustang Vs. Corvette thing still comes up on this forum.
About the time everyone remembers these 2 are in DIFFERENT classes (thereby killing the threads), another one pops up a few weeks later.
Christ, get a grip ya all...