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Old 10-15-2019, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tennis & Golf Nut
Almost exactly as I recently posted.

0-60 MPH in 2.8 seconds (If you can do that consistently will beat most exotics)

Will beat a C7 Z06 to 100MPH and maybe beat it in the Quarter Mile, lost by 1/10th.

Overweight as I said, 3,647lbs.

And braking not as good as the previous C7.
And the handling is not as good as a C7 Z51. That is sad.
Old 10-15-2019, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wvanepps
And the handling is not as good as a C7 Z51. That is sad.
Nope.

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But such close lap times don’t remotely convey how much easier it is to go fast in the C8. It cuts more cleanly into turns, and its rear tires are more planted exiting them; the C7’s tail is nervous and twitchy by comparison. Indeed, the C8 feels as approachable on the track as it does on the road. That’s a rare combination, one worthy of respect. The C8 has ours.
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Old 10-15-2019, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSharkGuy
“And yet the C8 laid down a blazing 2.8-second 0-to-60-mph run, absolutely crucifying the C7’s 3.9-second performance. Dropping nearly one-third of the time from an acceleration run with no additional power is possibly the biggest coup ever accomplished by an automaker since the miracle of harnessing combustion itself.”

That 2.8 number looks to be consistent across reviews...
Then this means the handling on the C8 is not good. If it is that much faster in a straight line then that means the C7 Z51 is making it up in turns. It was basically a tie in the lap times. Meaning a C7 GS is going to beat the C8 Z51.
Old 10-15-2019, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wvanepps
Then this means the handling on the C8 is not good. If it is that much faster in a straight line then that means the C7 Z51 is making it up in turns. It was basically a tie in the lap times. Meaning a C7 GS is going to beat the C8 Z51.
People are mixing and matching quotes from a track prepped C8 test vs a non-track prepped C8 from completely different review sites with different drivers on different road courses.

I guess whatever makes you feel better.
Old 10-15-2019, 02:05 PM
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People are getting butt hurt because the C7 is a better all around handling car then the C8.
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BOBSZ06
"The good news is that the Corvette’s first-ever 8-speed dual-clutch automatic moves the car off the line smoothly, and shifts are executed with less of a delay than with the old 8-speed automatic. And then there’s the less-than-good news: we doubt, even once it’s in production tune, that the Tremec dual-clutch will respond to shift commands as quickly as the DCTs from Porsche, McLaren, or Lamborghini. Ditto with actual shift times. This transmission, at least in preproduction trim, seems a good ways off the best."
And how many of us will EVER afford to own... A Porsche, Mc Laren or Lamborghini? Very few of us.

I want a nice GT car...The C8 either standard or Z-51 does it for me. And it's very affordable.
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:07 PM
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I just think it's safe to say the hype of the car outweighs the total results. I think some guys instantly thought it was somehow now a super car just because of the new platform. Now is the reality. It's good, but don't put it on a pedestal more then it is.

I have faith GM will make it better with the higher tier models. This is only the beginning after all.
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Pisswilly
People are getting butt hurt because the C7 is a better all around handling car then the C8.
I don't know where you got that impression since the car is .9 sec faster on the track.
Old 10-15-2019, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by wvanepps
Then this means the handling on the C8 is not good. If it is that much faster in a straight line then that means the C7 Z51 is making it up in turns. It was basically a tie in the lap times. Meaning a C7 GS is going to beat the C8 Z51.
Maybe we need a TRACK ONLY forum? So the track guys can pick these things apart.

In REALITY...for the driving 98% of us actually do...What does .1 second here, or 1.01 vs 1.14 G really and truly matter?
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Originally Posted by ssidekickbp
I just think it's safe to say the hype of the car outweighs the total results. I think some guys instantly thought it was somehow now a super car just because of the new platform. Now is the reality. It's good, but don't put it on a pedestal more then it is.

I have faith GM will make it better with the higher tier models. This is only the beginning after all.
With super car prices? Well optioned C8’s are going for 80k. Higher tier models will be unaffordable.
Old 10-15-2019, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pisswilly
People are getting butt hurt because the C7 is a better all around handling car then the C8.
Its not.
Old 10-15-2019, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pisswilly
With super car prices? Well optioned C8’s are going for 80k. Higher tier models will be unaffordable.
Never said they would be. The bottom line is we know GM can't give this base model everything performance wise or no one would even look at the higher tier models. These cars are tuned specifically different for different buyers. It seems to be this car has good acceleration numbers, but if you are gonna want the best handling, your gonna have to go for the higher models. That's all I'm basically saying.
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:18 PM
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Wow, the reviews are pretty brutal on the performance side for the C8. I was excepting it to be better in every category than a C7. Appears it is only better in the 0-60 time which is disappointing to say the least. I expected a lot more. Guess that is my fault. Oh well.
Old 10-15-2019, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by wvanepps
Wow, the reviews are pretty brutal on the performance side for the C8. I was excepting it to be better in every category than a C7. Appears it is only better in the 0-60 time which is disappointing to say the least. I expected a lot more. Guess that is my fault. Oh well.
Stop trolling.
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@RichieRichZ06 how's that time?
1:17.xx but that was a couple years ago. I'd imagine it's a couple seconds faster now. I will let you know what I do in our C8 when we get it.
Old 10-15-2019, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tennis & Golf Nut
0 to 85 MPH will smoke 99% of the cars on the street.

Ford GT 500 (DCT & 760HP) but RWD gonna get destroyed.

There's a New King on the Street, it's named Corvette.
Racing on the street is dumb and dangerous. Take it to the track instead of endangering everyone's life around you. And the king to the street is the Tesla Model P100D at 0 to 60 in 2.3 seconds if you are in to that. Personally I think 0-60 times are only good for bragging rights at Car's and Coffee.
Old 10-15-2019, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wvanepps
Wow, the reviews are pretty brutal on the performance side for the C8. I was excepting it to be better in every category than a C7. Appears it is only better in the 0-60 time which is disappointing to say the least. I expected a lot more. Guess that is my fault. Oh well.
At least you admit you are wrong.
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wvanepps
Racing on the street is dumb and dangerous. Take it to the track instead of endangering everyone's life around you. And the king to the street is the Tesla Model P100D at 0 to 60 in 2.3 seconds if you are in to that. Personally I think 0-60 times are only good for bragging rights at Car's and Coffee.
Exactly. As I have gotten older I actually care less about straight line performance (anything under 7 seconds is pretty fast on the street) and more about handling feel, exhaust note, feedback, etc.

Forget about street racing I bet the majority of C8 owners will never use launch control more than once or twice. And most won't use the paddles to shift, they will just put the car in auto mode and tour mode.

Should a bought a Cadillac
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Originally Posted by RichieRichZ06
1:17.xx but that was a couple years ago. I'd imagine it's a couple seconds faster now. I will let you know what I do in our C8 when we get it.
in car footage please! I'm still salty they didn't do the 3mile. We have so many reference points for that layout.

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Old 10-15-2019, 02:42 PM
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Looks like a win/win to me. The guys who were on the fence on picking up a great deal on all C7 versions can now do that and pat themselves and each other on the back for being so wise, the folks keeping their C7 have known all along they are great and very capable cars, and the serious C8 buyers lining up have no real reason to change their minds.


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