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Old 09-05-2019, 03:36 PM
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Thought it would be interesting see just how impressive the 0 to 60 in ~2.9 seconds for a C8 Z51 was:

0 to 60 mph times:

AA Fuel Dragster = <0.60 second
NHRA Pro Stock = ~1.0 second
Formula 1 = ~1.5 seconds
Challenger SRT Demon (Hennessey) = 1.9 seconds
Corvette (Lingenfelter 427 Twin Turbo) = 1.97 seconds
Dodge Viper Venom 1000TT0 (Hennessey)= 2.2 seconds
Porsche 918 Spyder = 2.3 seconds
Tesla Model S P100D 'Ludicrous Plus' Upgrade = 2.3 seconds
Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Super Sport = 2.4 seconds
Ferrari LaFerrari = 2.4 seconds
Lamborghini Sesto Elemento = 2.4 seconds
Koenigsegg One = 2.5 seconds
McLaren P1 GTR = 2.5 seconds
Corvette ZR1 = 2.85 seconds
Corvette C8 Z51 = 2.9 seconds

Heck built a street rod 20 years ago with all the "right parts" for acceleration: Ridged TCI tubbed chassis with adjustable 4 bar link suspension; 502 BB crate engine set back in the chassis so 53% of it's 3000 lb weight on the rear 16.5 section width Mikey Thompson tires. I still do 0 to 60 mph runs for fun and my GTEC Pro doesn't get to 3 seconds- close but not there! Will enjoy doing it with my C8 Z51 and no risk with it's nannies! Get about 1/2 second to lift if one of the street rod rear tires loses traction or you're off the road! No nannies only posi in it's 9 inch rear! Note, it was not built for the drag strip, it has AC, sound system etc!

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Old 09-05-2019, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Classax
Would I be wrong in stating the Corvette's mystique is that it's an every man's car. It is not the best at anything but punches above it's weight in at everything. It's really a GT car that can handle the track or drag strip respectably well. Don't you think?

We don't have to discuss 0 to 60. I noticed in one of the presentations the car has an oil life and duct fluid life display. No one seems to be discussing that. I can't think of another sub $100k DCT car that has a DCT fluids fluid monitor? Can you?
Sports Car, Muscle Car, Pony Car, GT Car, Performance Car, blah, blah, blah, whatever, doesn't matter, they are nothing more than labels.

You would be wrong in stating or assuming that a new C8 Corvette is an "every man's car" as every man isn't willing or able to purchase one. The pool of interested and capable consumers of a 2 seat sports car is very, very, small and decreasing in number with each passing year. The growth area of performance vehicles is by far the hot SUV/Crossover market.
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Old 09-05-2019, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BOBSZ06
When will be able to talk about the "Ring" time?
Now that would be awesome. If it can get anything around a 7:25 or lower I would be quite impressed. Ring times are much better metrics for performance. I know kids with Honda Civics pulling 10's in the quarter mile so not as impressed with that.
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Originally Posted by lobsterroboto
It's a measure of performance, not sure why you wouldn't be interested in that for a performance car.


I personally think that drag racing a corvette is about the same as complaining about the towing capacity of a kia rio. (things the vehicle was never really meant to be designed for) just as much as I would think its kind of stupid to take a dodge demon to a road course or a F250 super duty to an autocross.

but those are just my opinions and im not gonna fault anyone for liking something i dont like. Why dont you just let people like what they like?
Sure but GM and a ton of people are too focused on that one measure. The first time you pull up at a drag strip or stoplight with a P100D and you are left like you are standing still will just make you feel silly if that is your main bragging right. Heck a Model 3 Performance is going to give you a run for your money.

Now take that P100D or Model 3 Performance to a track with turns that requires braking and lateral G's and the Corvette is going to leave that P100D or Model 3 in the dust. With all the focus on 0-60 (thanks GM for just releasing that) it takes away from what the car really excels at - a real track and a much higher fun factor.
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Originally Posted by wvanepps
Now that would be awesome. If it can get anything around a 7:25 or lower I would be quite impressed. Ring times are much better metrics for performance. I know kids with Honda Civics pulling 10's in the quarter mile so not as impressed with that.
Lap times, road course times, "Ring" times, are obviously important to you and some others. Understand that you are in a very small minority who quotes or cares about any of this road course stuff. 0-60 and 1/4 miles are what the overwhelming majority of car guys look and relate to NOT lap times.
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Old 09-05-2019, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tail_lights
Sounds like someone just raced a Tesla..... You weren't that orange Grand Sport in the YT vid I just watched by chance, were you?
Nope, I am not dumb enough to drag race a Tesla. I know I will lose. Which is kind of why I think 0-60 times are pretty pointless. Let's see a ring time or VIR. We know they tested at the ring extensively with the C8. Makes me a little apprehensive that we have not seen any track times or independent reviews yet and the only thing they have released is stupid 0-60 times.
Old 09-05-2019, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LuisZ51
I'm sure this thread will encourage them all to stop talking about it...... Just for you.

Op wants to talk about tesla not c8 that’s the reason he started the thread. Look at his other threads and posts all tesla ev related. He loves tesla
Old 09-05-2019, 04:25 PM
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Ypu have to admit that electric model 3 is fast and gets around a track pretty well also. Watch some of those videos. I was SHOCKED... what it did around a road course. SHOCKED. Felt like am idiot thinking they were one trick ponies.
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Old 09-05-2019, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wvanepps
I wish people would stop talking about 0-60 times and quarter mile times on the C8 like that is the end all be all.
Look at it like this:: Before any customer has his hands on a C8, all we can do is speculate.
Once the first customers have cars in their hand, real measurements will transpire--as will a few accidents, so we will have other things to "discuss"
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Originally Posted by 16/C7Z
Ypu have to admit that electric model 3 is fast and gets around a track pretty well also. Watch some of those videos. I was SHOCKED... what it did around a road course. SHOCKED. Felt like am idiot thinking they were one trick ponies.
Yes they proved me wrong too. Then I drove a Model 3 performance. Wow . It's fast and handled way better than I thought it would.

If Tesla builds a dedicated sports car watch out. I
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Originally Posted by thill444
If Tesla builds a dedicated sports car watch out. I
They are and demoed it already back some time... It's certainly not cheap... But, there is a new Roadster coming that's not just a Lotus chassis with their motors.

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Old 09-05-2019, 05:14 PM
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The Honda Civic Type R posted a 7.43.8 on the ring. The new 150k plus PorscheTaycan ran the ring in 7.42. I own a R car and it is a quick track car that is fun to drive. on the street
Old 09-05-2019, 05:33 PM
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Optimized launch control nonsense is most of what 0-60 times are. Real test is 5-60, or 5-100.
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Originally Posted by BOBSZ06
When will be able to talk about the "Ring" time?
Stand by for Punky to come along and speak for the entire auto enthusiast nation when he says that nobody GAS about times at the Ring.

LOL, I see that he already did that. Yay him!

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Old 09-05-2019, 05:59 PM
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I’m hearing the C8 0-60 time will be 2.9.How is that for not talking.I’m hoping the Z06 will do 0-60 in 2.0.I’m wishing.
i buy corvette for the torque and the power,not because it’s a sports car.You buy it for one thing.There are people who buy it for other things.Long live 0-60.
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Originally Posted by thrilled
I’m hearing the C8 0-60 time will be 2.9.How is that for not talking.I’m hoping the Z06 will do 0-60 in 2.0.I’m wishing.
i buy corvette for the torque and the power,not because it’s a sports car.You buy it for one thing.There are people who buy it for other things.Long live 0-60.
What would ever give you the idea the z06 would do 0-60 in 2.0 secs?

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Originally Posted by wvanepps
I wish people would stop talking about 0-60 times and quarter mile times on the C8 like that is the end all be all. The Corvette is not a muscle or drag car. It is a sports car that is made for a track that has actual turns that you can have fun with. If you want just a 0-60 2.3 sec car that runs 10's in the quarter mile just go buy a used Telsa P100D or P90D for the same price and haul the family around in it as well. The difference is Telsa is not very good yet on a twisty track while the Corvette is fantastic and I assume the C8 will be as well. For the foreseeable future the ICE based Corvette will beat any EV on a twisty track and is a lot more fun and that is what matters (although this will eventually change one day). If people just focus on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times then the Corvette is going to lose every time to an EV so I would rather focus on the strengths of the C8 which is handling, looks, and fun factor in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by thill444
Yes they proved me wrong too. Then I drove a Model 3 performance. Wow . It's fast and handled way better than I thought it would.

If Tesla builds a dedicated sports car watch out. I
The Tesla roadster is coming out soon. (Elon Musk launched one into orbit with a dummy driver.) They say it will do 0-60 in 1.9 seconds.

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[QUOTE=wvanepps;1600101888]I wish people would stop talking about 0-60 times and quarter mile times on the C8 like that is the end all be all. The Corvette is not a muscle or drag car. It is a sports car that is made for a track that has actual turns that you can have fun with. If you want just a 0-60 2.3 sec car that runs 10's in the quarter mile just go buy a used Telsa P100D or P90D for the same price and haul the family around in it as well. The difference is Telsa is not very good yet on a twisty track while the Corvette is fantastic and I assume the C8 will be as well. For the foreseeable future the ICE based Corvette will beat any EV on a twisty track and is a lot more fun and that is what matters (although this will eventually change one day). If people just focus on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times then the Corvette is going to lose every time to an EV so I would


rather focus on the strengths of the C8 which is handling, looks, and fun factor in my
opinion.[/QUOTE

You & your assertions about tesla and its one trick act. the base c8 cost about 75 k nicely equipped and with a Callaway option will cost under the 100k and i bet will beat your p100d in the 1/4 mile and any road course. Every topic with you is
about injecting tesla attributes. enough

suggestion maybe start these tesla discussion in other cars forum not in c8 forum. And by the way i agree tesla makes a great car but again this is a c8 forum

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