Z06 NOT getting Turbo FPC - 600 hp NA instead
08-28-2019, 12:10 AM
#41
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2020 Stingray LT2
2021 Z06 LT7
2022 E-Ray LT2 + Electric Motors AWD
2023 Grand Sport LT6
2024 ZR1 LT7 + Electric Motors AWD
2025 Stingray LT6
Last edited by blackcorvette06; 08-28-2019 at 12:22 AM. Reason: Forgot LT2 + Electric Motor
08-28-2019, 12:12 AM
#42
Melting Slicks
OK....
I thought the Blackwing 4.2L twin turbo was going to be the Z06 engine and maybe the ZR1 engine as well? Perhaps I’m completely wrong on that.
It is perhaps interesting that the 1995 Gen II LT5 in the 1995 King of the Hill ZR1 was a 5.7L engine. It had a max RPM of about 6200 RPM....
BUT..... it produced peak HP of 405 @ 5800 and peak torque of 385 @ 5200 RPM. Some said it actually produced 410-415, not the claimed 405. It could easily have produced 440 HP with a little tweaking.
20 years later, Lingenfelter finished off the proposed but never built Gen III LT5 and it produced about 475 HP. Unloaded it popped about 535.
All I’m saying is that all these numbers sound a lot more like that Mercury Racing LT5 than the Cad Blackwing..
I’m sure that I’m missing something... but it is all interesting.
Last edited by B747VET; 08-28-2019 at 12:13 AM.
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08-28-2019, 12:26 AM
#43
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Not this **** again. Holy ****. How many threads get started on rumors alone? Good ******* grief.
08-28-2019, 12:31 AM
#44
800hp Z06 isn't happening. 700hp, MAYBE. But whatever it is, they will make sure it's neutered when compared to a ZR1 and the hybrid, assuming the hybris is indeed going to be a hypercar.
More realistically, expect Z06 to be 650-700HP, ZR1 800-875HP, Hybrid 950-1000HPish
Simple marketing
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08-28-2019, 05:19 AM
#45
LS2 upgraded to LS3 in the C6
LT2 to become LT3 in the C8???
LT3: dual cam/fpc ?? ``
LT2 to become LT3 in the C8???
LT3: dual cam/fpc ?? ``
08-28-2019, 05:29 AM
#46
It's funny how everyone seems to know exactly what the C8 Z06 is going to be when GM hasn't released anything official. We're a year or two out minimum. Plans can change.
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08-28-2019, 05:40 AM
#47
I would say this NA LT6 most likely it will find its way to the base stingray after revealing LT7 Z06
08-28-2019, 07:43 AM
#48
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Of course, it's all just a big rumor mill at this point, but honestly this make a lot more sense than jumping from 495hp to 800hp
https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/...s-not-the-z06/
"the Z06 will once again be naturally aspirated. Output will likely be around 600 horsepower, well below the C8 ZR1, and it will not have a manual transmission. But it will have a screamer of an engine, and that alone is worth rejoicing over."
https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/...s-not-the-z06/
"the Z06 will once again be naturally aspirated. Output will likely be around 600 horsepower, well below the C8 ZR1, and it will not have a manual transmission. But it will have a screamer of an engine, and that alone is worth rejoicing over."
08-28-2019, 11:26 AM
#49
C6 ZR1 was 638hp
C7 Z06 was 650hp
No reason to think GM wouldn't surpass the ZR1 HP rating. They are in the business of selling cars. Need to give buyers a reason to upgrade.
C7 Z06 was 650hp
No reason to think GM wouldn't surpass the ZR1 HP rating. They are in the business of selling cars. Need to give buyers a reason to upgrade.
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08-28-2019, 02:31 PM
#50
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Of course, it's all just a big rumor mill at this point, but honestly this make a lot more sense than jumping from 495hp to 800hp
https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/...s-not-the-z06/
"the Z06 will once again be naturally aspirated. Output will likely be around 600 horsepower, well below the C8 ZR1, and it will not have a manual transmission. But it will have a screamer of an engine, and that alone is worth rejoicing over."
https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/...s-not-the-z06/
"the Z06 will once again be naturally aspirated. Output will likely be around 600 horsepower, well below the C8 ZR1, and it will not have a manual transmission. But it will have a screamer of an engine, and that alone is worth rejoicing over."
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08-28-2019, 02:40 PM
#51
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From the C&D article for those who don't like to click on links:
This engine will help the Z06 return to its roots as a lightweight, naturally aspirated, high-revving, rear-drive, track-focused car. We believe that, as in our illustration above, it will have a wider body than the standard Stingray to cover its wider wheels and tires."
If the idea of a GM Voodoo-killer in the ME car doesn't get you excited than you aren't a real car guy (or lady). This will be an all-time great if it comes to fruition!
"Corvette Z06
We expect the C8 Corvette Z06 will use a naturally aspirated version of the engine that will supposedly rev to 8600 rpm and develop in excess of 600 horsepower, a power figure that's credible given the Voodoo's power rating and 8250-rpm redline. (More revs equal more power per liter.) It is rumored that GM engineers had designed the motor to spin to 9000 rpm, but that design elements of the Tremec-built dual-clutch automatic transmission—the same one that will be standard across all versions of the C8—restricted the redline to the lower number.This engine will help the Z06 return to its roots as a lightweight, naturally aspirated, high-revving, rear-drive, track-focused car. We believe that, as in our illustration above, it will have a wider body than the standard Stingray to cover its wider wheels and tires."
If the idea of a GM Voodoo-killer in the ME car doesn't get you excited than you aren't a real car guy (or lady). This will be an all-time great if it comes to fruition!
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08-28-2019, 02:53 PM
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08-28-2019, 02:55 PM
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08-28-2019, 02:56 PM
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From the C&D article for those who don't like to click on links:
This engine will help the Z06 return to its roots as a lightweight, naturally aspirated, high-revving, rear-drive, track-focused car. We believe that, as in our illustration above, it will have a wider body than the standard Stingray to cover its wider wheels and tires."
If the idea of a GM Voodoo-killer in the ME car doesn't get you excited than you aren't a real car guy (or lady). This will be an all-time great if it comes to fruition!
"Corvette Z06
We expect the C8 Corvette Z06 will use a naturally aspirated version of the engine that will supposedly rev to 8600 rpm and develop in excess of 600 horsepower, a power figure that's credible given the Voodoo's power rating and 8250-rpm redline. (More revs equal more power per liter.) It is rumored that GM engineers had designed the motor to spin to 9000 rpm, but that design elements of the Tremec-built dual-clutch automatic transmission—the same one that will be standard across all versions of the C8—restricted the redline to the lower number.This engine will help the Z06 return to its roots as a lightweight, naturally aspirated, high-revving, rear-drive, track-focused car. We believe that, as in our illustration above, it will have a wider body than the standard Stingray to cover its wider wheels and tires."
If the idea of a GM Voodoo-killer in the ME car doesn't get you excited than you aren't a real car guy (or lady). This will be an all-time great if it comes to fruition!
it still needs a diet. 3577 lbs for the C8 Z51, that thing is a hippo.
08-28-2019, 03:05 PM
#57
If true that you would need to go to 8,250 rpm for NA 600 hp, the LT2 torque would probably eat its lunch under 6K rpm.
If the new motor can't meet or beat the LT2 torque under the curve, it will feel like a dog as a daily driver.
One of the benefits of the C7 LT1 is the fact that it matched the 427 LS7 torque up to 4K rpm - LT2 would appear to be even better.
I cant see how a 5.5L NA motor would be at all acceptable as a LT2 replacement.
Anything but forced induction in the Z06/ZR1/Zora would seem to be a step backwards.
Last edited by tomlink; 08-28-2019 at 03:17 PM.
