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Getting a little annoyed with a few comments on the new C8 power plant
I was on Instagram last night reading the comments and what people think of the new C8 mid engine Corvette. It make me shake my head when I’m reading so many comments like people think that the new Corvette is a total joke because it’s “only” making 495 Horse power. Yet these same gear heads seem to forget the car is also doing 0 to 60 under 3 seconds!
Its like unless a super car now a days is kicking out at least 600 HP or more more, people act like it’s only a six cylinder or something... and they also seem to forget for under $60,000 if you think you’re going to get a car starting out at 600 or 700 hp.... get real...
Any way I just wanted to rant about that.... my personal opinion on the new C8, it’s definitely more Ferrari/ McLaren exotic looking compare to the C7. This is only the base model Stingray also. But so far it doesn’t make me want to trade in my C7 GS to get one... I do think GM did a pretty nice job on it. I’d have to see one in person and even take one for a test drive that may change my mind to wanting to get one in the future 😎
Last edited by GrandSport223; 08-13-2019 at 02:49 PM.
The reason people are saying this is because they're uneducated and have only been paying attention to the big horsepower Z06 and ZR1s the past few years. They've completely forgotten about the Stingray and Grand Sport. These are people who only care about big horsepower numbers. To them, this car is a downgrade because they are ignorant and only think of the 650 hp and 755 hp ZR1.
They're just dumb. Ignore them. The following picture sums them up nicely:
Well so far I don’t think we really know how difficult it’s going to be to change the oil or how frequent and besides that you would normally take it to a GM dealer to do that anyway wouldn’t you?
Originally Posted by flange
you should start a discussion on oil change frequency and difficulty.
In the C8 or any car it’s about the total systems synergy, not just the HP. In golf we talk about the loft of a given golf club. But what usually matters is the effective loft which refers to the optimal loft achievable when considering the impact of the other clubhead design factors.
So maybe consider what is in essence the effective HP of the C8.
Let’s say that the C8 Z51 at 495 HP can pull 1.0 g off the line and achieve 0-60 in 2.9 secs.
What would be the HP required for the C7 Z51 or the C6 Z51 to achieve those same numbers? Maybe 520+?? Let’s just say it works out to be 520.
That then is the effective HP of the C8 Z51 compared to the two previous gens. Again it’s the total performance that matters and why the C8 is such an engineering achievement.
Well so far I don’t think we really know how difficult it’s going to be to change the oil or how frequent and besides that you would normally take it to a GM dealer to do that anyway wouldn’t you?
Great point. Now id like to take you in yet another direction if you dont mind and hear your thoughts on what estimated pricing will be for the various option groups. Perhaps a thread on it?
In the C8 or any car it’s about the total systems synergy, not just the HP. In golf we talk about the loft of a given golf club. But what usually matters is the effective loft which refers to the optimal loft achievable when considering the impact of the other clubhead design factors.
So maybe consider what is in essence the effective HP of the C8.
Let’s say that the C8 Z51 at 495 HP can pull 1.0 g off the line and achieve 0-60 in 2.9 secs.
What would be the HP required for the C7 Z51 or the C6 Z51 to achieve those same numbers? Maybe 520+?? Let’s just say it works out to be 520.
That then is the effective HP of the C8 Z51 compared to the two previous gens. Again it’s the total performance that matters and why the C8 is such an engineering achievement.
You are smart man, you know the answer. It will take ZR1's 755 hp to hit 0-60 in less than 3 sec.
I was trying to avoid going there in one step, but yes, you are right.
Zero to 60 wise, the C8 has an effective HP above the 650 HP C7 Z06 and pretty close to the 755 HP C7 ZR1. Seems possible and maybe even probable that those numbers will also be easier to consistently achieve on the street in the C8 Z51.
Now curious as to how the zero to 100 numbers will work out. Interesting anyway.
Even more curious as to how fast and safe the C8 Z51 will be in Pobst’s hands at Laguna Seca. With the turn in capability, the acceleration, the DCT, the lowered CG, the revised e-diff, and the completely revised coil over front suspension some folks just might be in for a bit of a shock.
It's just people being people, hell we have them on here asking how disappointed we'll be once a Z06 comes out (like that's what I really want, but I am settling for a base car). I saw a screen saver of a Corvette on the young accounts receivable guys computer (didn't know he had any interest in cars). I asked him his thoughts on the new C8 and if he saw the reveal. He did watch the reveal and thinks it's a great looking car. He then went on to say how disappointing it is to only have around 500 hp. I looked at him like he was growing antlers and said how many street cars have 500 hp? How much quicker than 3 seconds to 60 is enough? I just shook my head and walked away.
The reason people are saying this is because they're uneducated and have only been paying attention to the big horsepower Z06 and ZR1s the past few years. They've completely forgotten about the Stingray and Grand Sport. These are people who only care about big horsepower numbers. To them, this car is a downgrade because they are ignorant and only think of the 650 hp and 755 hp ZR1.
They're just dumb. Ignore them. The following picture sums them up nicely:
Its like unless a super car now a days is kicking out at least 600 HP or more more, people act like it’s only a six cylinder or something... and they also seem to forget for under $60,000 if you think you’re going to get a car starting out at 600 or 700 hp.... get real...
You can get a Camaro ZL1 with 650HP for under $60K, so what is your point?
And 6-cyl Porsches routinely make 500 and 600+HP, again what does cylinder count has to do with power?
490HP, which is what you get for $60K in the C8 is great.
But 550HP would be better. What is wrong with people saying they wished to have a bit more power?
It isn't so much that 495hp is too little, it is too little compared to what you get from competitors in a marketing sense. The next generation of the Mustang will likely blow by the 500hp, they are already at 480hp with the Bullitt and 525hp with the GT350s. Same with the Challengers, because we all know Chrysler will sell those for another decade if they can. You'll be talking about a car that bases for half the cost of a Corvette having more power.
Unless this is all just a ploy to bring out the 520hp version next model year and keep sales roaring...
[QUOTE=baron95;1599961716]You can get a Camaro ZL1 with 650HP for under $60K, so what is your point?
Not in Canada you sure as hell cant! When the ZL1 Camaro came to the dealerships, $90-$100k was the list price... that’s my point.... and your ZL1 Camaro won’t even keep up with the new C8 going around a racetrack I guarantee you that...
I was on Instagram last night reading the comments and what people think of the new C8 mid engine Corvette. It make me shake my head when I’m reading so many comments like people think that the new Corvette is a total joke because it’s “only” making 495 Horse power. Yet these same gear heads seem to forget the car is also doing 0 to 60 under 3 seconds!
If you shake your head and ignore them you life will have fewer bruises along its path.
In airplanes no one discusses or even really knows or cares about the power rating numbers. The basic questions are how fast, how high, and how maneuverable. Similarly, in sports cars it’s Ring time, Laguna Seca times, etc...
Perhaps even more to the point, in golf one doesn’t care how far a pro hits a ball with a given driver. One cares how far he or she can hit their own driver.
In that vein, with which car can a non-professional mid skill level amateur lap Laguna Seca both faster and safer. The C7 ZR1, the C7 Z06, the C7 GS, or the C8 Z51? I know where I’d put my money. But we won’t really know for a few more months. Fun to watch either way...
Or, one can just base everything on bar room bragging rights.
Besides, we all know power isn't everything. A Tesla S P100D can beat a C7 ZR1 and the C8 off the line, but try going around a 90 degree right turn at 45 mph like my GS can.
08-13-2019, 02:47 PM
Getting a little annoyed with a few comments on the new C8 power plant
It will take ZR1's 755 hp to hit 0-60 in less than 3 sec.
