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Old 08-08-2019, 07:30 PM
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Much ado about absolutely nothing except preconceived dislike.

Move on.

Absolutely not confirmed, merely speculated with energy. Huge difference.

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Old 08-08-2019, 07:34 PM
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What the hell difference does it make?
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IMHO all gm c8 corvettes will have turbulent headers . There’s no business, Techincal, or logical reason in 2019 to offer old school cast iron stainless steel headers.
‘Tubular headers are simple to design and manufacture and lightweight. Robotic welding , hydroforming and manufacturing headers on the tier 1 level is simple and cost effective.
‘Those stainless steel heat shields are covering short mid-length tubular headers .
‘The extra 5hp power has the be from the rear valvetronic exhaust that has a bypass to reduced back pressure.

its that simple . Ferrari and others have used investment cast stainless steel headers on the 488 and inconel headers on the 488 pista and F8 tributo
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In an article from Engine Labs (https://www.enginelabs.com/engine-te...but-different/) is the following comment:

The optional Z51 performance package delivers (among other desirable items) the four-into-one stainless steel equal length headers that no C8 should be ordered without. The standard iron manifolds will be of the 4-2-1 arrangement.
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Old 08-08-2019, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CRABBYJ
nice work
Old 08-08-2019, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CRABBYJ
Hard to say ... might be just more heat shielding.


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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
In an article from Engine Labs (https://www.enginelabs.com/engine-te...but-different/) is the following comment:
The guy just made a mistake. There is no way the base motor makes 490hp and then a Z51 gets BOTH tube headers AND a performance exhaust (that is credited by Chevrolet) to provide 5hp. So since Chevy says the performance exhaust gives the 5 hp, the manifolds did absolutely nothing to gain a single hp???? Anybody that has gone from cast manifolds to headers knows better than this.
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Originally Posted by Phil1098
The guy made a mistake.
why would he make it up?
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Originally Posted by C8Jake
why would he make it up?
I doubt he made up anything, probably was working off some early info. Why does Chevy give 100% credit to the hp gain from the muffler?
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Old 08-08-2019, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by C8Jake
that's a bet
quite likely base cars w/NPP get SS headers
No... tubular headers and good mufflers add way more than 5 crank HP.
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Old 08-08-2019, 08:30 PM
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This photo shows inner shields also (red arrows), and of course the mounting tabs (orange arrows) for the outside head shield. Unfortunately, I think with all the heat shields in place you won't be able to see much of those nice looking tubular headers.


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Has anyone asked Tadge to confirm cast Iron vs. SS headers Z51 or not? And put this to rest!
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Originally Posted by C8Jake
Order guide doesn't indicate everything.
how'd ya explain this?
I don't want those yellow circles and ovals on my C8 engine. May I order red or white?
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Old 08-08-2019, 08:49 PM
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Pretty sure all LT2’s will have the same headers. Doesn’t make much sense otherwise.
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
No... tubular headers and good mufflers add way more than 5 crank HP.
SS headers/NPP +5hp...outstanding increase over a 4-2-1 cast iron manifold

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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
No... tubular headers and good mufflers add way more than 5 crank HP.
Be interesting what the chassis dyno shows at the wheels. BMW has been undertaking HP for years.
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Originally Posted by Steven Bell
What difference does it make?
5hp?

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Geez people, just read the specs in the ordering guide. It says aluminum exhaust on all models, not just the Z51.
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Originally Posted by DSOMrulz
read the specs in the ordering guide...aluminum exhaust on all models
that's after the headers/manifolds
Exhaust, aluminized SS w/SS tips
NPP 5 hp increase w/SS tips, included w/Z51

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Originally Posted by BADBIRDCAGE
AND? Base car does 0/60 in 3.4. Z51 does 0/60 in 2.8. BFD for the non professional street driver of the car (99.3% of purchasers).

I currently drive a Z51 optioned C6 and I appreciate the braking package, cooling system upgrades, power steering cooler, upgraded suspension, etc. I don’t track the car and I don’t need the upgrades but I appreciate them.

Your posts about the 2020 Corvette seem generally to indicate you are not happy with anything about it. I hope you can find something in life to make you happy. It’s apparent the C8 isn’t doing it. Maybe a change of name recognition is in order.

.6 to 60 MPH difference is huge, I do not think the base car will be that slow (3.4 ) to 60 and do not think the Z51 will be that quick 2.8 to 60. Its been reported under 3 sec to 60 or 2.9 realistically imo, and maybe 3.1 or 3.2 to 60 on the base car imo

Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Grasping ... That rendering proves nothing. There are photos with heat shield mounting tabs on the tubular headers too.

Forgot where I read it, but someone saw a non-Z51 car in person and said it had the tubular headers on it.

Well, I just saw a Z51 car up close and personal and could not really tell the car had tubular headers , way to much heat shielding to see anything. And I had my head under the hood big time.

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