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Old 08-04-2019, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
I look forward to that as well! He wouldn't be the first person who was trying to compensate for their internally-realized deficiencies, by buying an overpriced "brand".
I would say your comment is a pretty good summation of where you are in life. A man on a Camaro budget with the C8 being their aspiration car! Can’t fault that though......appears it should be a very nice car! I hope you and Punky can make your dreams come true.
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Are we going to get all the way to somebody's momma wearing combat boots or at some point is someone going to value their time enough to walk away?
Old 08-04-2019, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. ice
Appears you are a Language Arts teacher.....How’s the C6!
Nope; just someone with at least a 7th grade education that has managed to capture the English language. How's the drive thru at this time of day? Gotta gear up for the dinner rush. Remember, it is spelled small "fries" not "frys".
Old 08-04-2019, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Sure can as I get my info straight from the horse's mouth. https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/annu...018-17172.html

2014...………. total 54,017

911--------------------30,510
718--------------------23,597

2015...…......total 54,013

911--------------------31,350
718--------------------22,663

2016...……...total 55,985

911--------------------32,365
718--------------------23,620

2017...……...total 57,908

911--------------------32,197
718--------------------25,111


2018...………total 60,323

911---------------------35,573
718---------------------24,750

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Maybe you need to reread my post, I was asking about base stingray sales figures, not Porsche production numbers.

Also these are global production numbers, not US sales like the number I was quoting. And for some reason you have the 911 in there now, where as you were only talking about the boxster/cayman before.

FWIW in the US the Corvette outsells the boxster, cayman and 911 combined.
Old 08-04-2019, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory
Was looking at JoseC5's Porsche numbers. Yes they sell way more cars than Corvette does, thats always be known, but the really interesting thing is the constant growth from 54,000 in 2014 to 2018 in 60,323, Considering what is happening to sports cars & sedans over the same period that is a pretty amazing accomplishment.
Those are global production numbers, not sales numbers.
And as these are global numbers and not US sales numbers that doesn't mean much for the "sports cars trending down in the US" stat, that may not be the case when speaking globally. The 911 sales in the US has been trending down from 2014-2017 and then rose a touch in 2018. From 2013 onward the boxster has been selling less and less in the US, and the Cayman has been steady from 2013 onward. All selling significantly less than the Corvette in the US though.



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[QUOTE=Dsom2LT;1599873035]Porsche is strictly a performance car. It’s a brand lkke sneakers or handbags. The cars are nose to @ss ugly and always will be. People buy a Porsche to say they have one. Vette owners have a pride, a connection, a love for these beasts that others don’t. Few people can even name which Porsche they are even looking at: 911, 919, 411, Carreras, Boxster, whatever. Tired of the comparison to Porsche; each car is any ugly girl with either implants, too much makeup, or a huge rear end. Give me power, style, and a car that is synonymous with my country, my grit, my resolve and my loyalty.

"Strictly a performance car". Ok, and you have a problem with that? I think every Porsche owner can tell you what model they have. Most even know how to drive them. Unlike the over 50 crowd that gets in everyone's way in their fiberglass toy going to the grocery store.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Yep, even Porsche's 4 door sedan, the Panamera is bucking the trend in sedan sales.

2014 24,864
2015 17,207
2016 15,240
2017 27,942
2018 38,443
Again those are not US sales figures.

Here is US numbers:

2018- 8,042

2017- 6,731

2016- 4,403

2015- 4,985

2014- 5,740

2013- 5,421

2012- 7,614

The middle east, China, and Africa contribute to more Porsche sales than anywhere else. These places are not necessarily facing the same changes the US market is, apples to oranges.
Old 08-04-2019, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by crabman
Are we going to get all the way to somebody's momma wearing combat boots or at some point is someone going to value their time enough to walk away?
Never happen.

Their performance in this (and other) thread(s) makes me strongly doubt either is as prosperous as they claim, unless they inherited their money or won it in the lottery.

No self-made person I ever met would spend countless hours on childish peeing matches like this!
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Old 08-04-2019, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
Again those are not US sales figures.

Here is US numbers:

2018- 8,042

2017- 6,731

2016- 4,403

2015- 4,985

2014- 5,740

2013- 5,421

2012- 7,614

The middle east, China, and Africa contribute to more Porsche sales than anywhere else. These places are not necessarily facing the same changes the US market is, apples to oranges.
Maybe the Vette team is serious this time in going after non-US markets! That would make the global numbers relevant and could give the Porsche guys pause. While I am not a huge C8 fan, when I saw it up close I could certainly see why younger “players” in the regions you cite might go for it. Let’s face it, the C8 would be quite rare (dare I say “exotic”) in such locales...

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Originally Posted by Dr. ice
Funny.....I was thinking you were just a low class wannabe!
If I was indeed "low class", I would feel no shame from that. Not everyone aspires to be a pompous laughing stock.

Have you not yet learned that puffery furnishes excellent fodder for jokes?
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For all those comparing the two. They are not comparable. Porsche owners will buy C8's for daily drivers. For those who don't get it. It's like the old Harley Davidson saying says. If you even have to ask you won't understand. There is a reason why Porsche is the winning est marque in racing history. Yes, if the C8 performs as advertised and survives major problems and recalls it will probably do well.
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Originally Posted by ALMS21
Nope; just someone with at least a 7th grade education that has managed to capture the English language. How's the drive thru at this time of day? Gotta gear up for the dinner rush. Remember, it is spelled small "fries" not "frys".
Don’t know.....but I do like drive throughs. At my second home at the moment chilling on my $650,000 cruiser at the Lake with some friends. I may head for a Big Mac when I get off the boat. Hope my grammar passes your rigor. If it doesn’t, I don’t give a ****. LOl.

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Old 08-04-2019, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Charlie 1
There is a reason why Porsche is the winning est marque in racing history.
That's highly arguable. Did your Porsche salesman tell you that?

One among many references to the most winning marquise:
LINK

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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
If I was indeed "low class", I would feel no shame from that. Not everyone aspires to be a pompous laughing stock.

Have you not yet learned that puffery furnishes excellent fodder for jokes?
This guy hasn't learned grammar yet.
He can sure make enemies. He's sparring with 5 different guys in one thread. Not an easy task, must be a pro!
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Originally Posted by punky
This guy hasn't learned grammar yet.
He can sure make enemies. He's sparring with 5 different guys in one thread. Not an easy task, must be a pro!
At my count 3. Together, they don’t total one!
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Originally Posted by Dr. ice
Don’t know.....but I do like drive throughs. At my second home at the moment chilling on my $650,000 cruiser at the Lake with some friends.
Sure you are.
Be sure to use Porsche brand starch on your underpants. Target brand starch may be just as good, or better, but imagine how your dignity would suffer if anyone found out!
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Originally Posted by Dr. ice
Don’t know.....but I do like drive throughs. At my second home at the moment chilling on my $650,000 cruiser at the Lake with some friends. I may head for a Big Mac when I get off the boat. Hope my grammar passes your rigor. If it doesn’t, I don’t give a ****. LOl.
OMG, just read this one. You are at your 2nd home chilling on your "$650,000 Cruiser". Do you have some fixation with the $650,000 figure? You are the best my Man!

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Old 08-04-2019, 06:06 PM
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OMG, just read this one. You are at your 2nd home chilling on your "$650,000 Cruiser". Do you have some fixation with the $650,000 figure? You are the best my Man!
If you want to believe that’s my salary more power to you! Such a jealous man! Too funny!
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
Sure you are.
Be sure to use Porsche brand starch on your underpants. Target brand starch may be just as good, or better, but imagine how your dignity would suffer if anyone found out!

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Originally Posted by Dr. ice
If you want to believe that’s my salary more power to you! Such a jealous man! Too funny!
Believe you?
$650,000/yr is the income that you have previously blown your horn about here which is very weird but obviously well within the scope of your ignorance. Enjoy that Big Mac, YUK.


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