fake

Supra was pace car at watkins glen. . small two seater and homely car.. This car is really over priced. Toyota should have improved what they have which is also homely,over priced junk!.

Mr Triple Black

The 4th gen Supra using a Lexus platform is not the same as it using a BMW platform. Lexus is a Toyota company. If they had based the new Supra off the LFA/LC/RC I would have been much more cool with that.

As as far as low sales that was pretty much all the “high end” Japanese sports cars. 3000GT VR-4, RX-7, NSX, the GTR didn’t even make it here, Eclipse GS-T/GSX, just all of them did terrible. The people who ended up liking them the most were kids like myself who could have bought one now but none of them lasted. I bought a new NSX, but the original is better. I’ve owned multiple C7s and they’re great. Love them. This new Supra to me is just lack luster. And it has rather boring styling to me, they should have stayed closer to the concept it was derived from.

Which Supras and then what was your first Corvette? Because I couldn’t imagine picking a non-ZR1 C4 over a 4th gen Supra Turbo. But that could be just me. The 93 C4 wasn’t as fast as a 93 Supra Turbo and I’ve always hated how the C4 looked. However, I could see this being said about any of the generations after the C4, however they all came out significantly later than the 4th Gen Supra so I’d expect them to be better. I will say this new one does nothing for me though.

Jake_The_Pit

I suspect that's the C8 influence. Looks like Toyota made a mistake in partnering with BMW instead of building their own Supra, it's performance is more similar to the C7 Stingray and nowhere near the C8 Stingray.

My wife wanted the Supra and I was OK with that, until the C8 reveal. Provided the C8 doesn't have any major issues. My brother is partner in a dealer group in the DC area that has 2 Toyota stores and 4 Chevrolet among others, so when I'm ready, I will be able to get an order in.

meadowz06

And? I never said it was faster than a C7 Z06, or GT4.

meadowz06

A pure, lightweight drivers car. Do your homework.

meadowz06

Total bullshit! Nice try.

meadowz06

The Supra will get murdered by a C8.

punky

"A pure lightweight drivers car". LOL!

"Pure" and "lightweight" are needed here to make excuses for all the shortcomings of these underpowered Asian tin cans that they try to call sports cars. Can't think of anyone over 25 that would care about crap like that.

Good luck with your Supras, you're really going to need it.

meadowz06

Poor sales? They are only making 30,000 units in 7 YEARS! So 4,200 and some change, a year. I agree that the worlds largest automobile company should have made the car in house. And the Supra engine has as much power as the Z4. Its already been proven on the dyno.

meadowz06

I don’t own a Supra. I own a C6, and FR-S. And the corvette king does not need luck. And I’m 50, so obviously, older people appreciate a pure drivers car. Your ignorance is stunning.

punky

Is this a "pure drivers car" also?


Who in their right mind would even consider buying this turd?

FactoryZ51

Get rid of the cargo net $46,
cargo carpet mat $80!!,
first aid kit $30,
emergency kit $59,
and the carbon fiber mirror covers $925!!!;

CJ Willys

Not in, & never will be, in the same class.

jim2527

At least you 'get it'. When I heard of the 'new' Supra all I could think was Toyota already has a Supra....the RC series.. Dam...hop up the RC350 engine and stuff it in an 86. Or put the RC on a diet and hop up the F's V8. Regardless.....people would have bitched, whined and complained. A no win situation for Toyota. Not looking like the 'concept' is just a lame excuse. Woulda, coulda, shoulda nobody has a crystal ball. I'll venture a guess and say at least 50% all gen4 Supra buyers were not 'enthusiasts' who ever did a single mod to their cars. To say all the loyalists were let down by Toyota is a joke...all 5,000 of them? Toyota supposed to cater those 5,000? 25 years later most of those owners as old and probably cant get into a 2 door anyways. There's a sound business plan.

Mr Triple Black

I don’t think it’s an excuse to wish it looked more like the concept. To me the concept was badass. The actual model is watered down.

I don’t care so much about the loyalist because there aren’t any really. Can’t be a loyalist to a car that hasn’t been around in 2 decades and didn’t have a cult following when it was out. I loved the Supras because it’s the car that got me into cars. My uncle had a tuned 87 Turbo as well as a tuned 94 Turbo. I guess he would have been the loyalist you speak of. But he sold both before Fast & Furious came out and never would have thought they would have appreciated so much in Value. The first time I ever went 160 I was about 7/8 and it was in his 94. Been into sports cars ever since. Had they come out with a 2+2 based off the RC with less weight and a targa too with a turbo variant doing at least 500hp I would have bought it.

Im considering an RC-F right now. Supra isn’t on the table as I hate the styling.

Rapid Fred

It is over-priced and ugly. The FR-S is neither. You are WAY too hung up on a very specific type of sports car. Variety is the spice of life...

punky

I doubt if many Corvette forum guys identify with the fart-can-crowd.
Sorry, I just don't get it, never been able to make it through more than about 5 minutes of any of those idiotic Fast and Furious flicks.

Replacing_a_GT-R

Holy cow this forum is toxic. I love all cars, and joined here looking for some information on a potential replacement for my GT-R. So many of you sound like a bunch of old geezers talking about "rice burners" and "fart cans" and declaring that the C8 will destroy the Supra, the Cayman, and seemingly every other car that's not a C7 Z06, when the car hasn't even been released yet. Who's to say that the first year of the C8 isn't going to be a dumpster fire, and that the transmission will have major issues when it sits for long periods of time in a garage? Who's to say the Supra won't start a renaissance of Japanese sports cars that cater to the masses and bring more folks into the world of performance automobiles? How many of you have driven either a Supra or a C8 and can accurately judge based on personal experience which one will trounce the other?

I realize that I'm new here, but the attitude of so many people here is really turning me off to the Corvette crowd, and the C8 was the first Corvette that I've actually found interesting. Downvote me to oblivion or block me or whatever, but I guess I need to stay out of any thread that compares the C8 to any other car because any other car is a piece of crap compared to the car that none of you have even driven yet.

C82LT

Most everyone was disappointed when they found out the Supra was largely BMW sourced less the bodywork. The C8 further cemented that disappointment. I would have been interested in a Supra had it started in the upper $30k range based on its performance metrics. With options it would sticker for $45k. But you can get an awesome 1LT Vette for almost $10k less....not sure why you’d buy a Supra with so many other great options out there. I’d honestly pay just a couple thousand more and prefer a base 718 over the Supra. At least I’m getting a Porsche then.

With all that said, I may pick one up used if they depreciate like BMWs do.

Josh M

As a huge Supra fan and former owner of 2 MKIV turbos I hope you are wrong & right haha. I think the new Supra is terrible and am still mad they produced it like that. My hope was that it would be something like 150k where it would be out of reach for a lot of people, but would be crazy performance wise. To me that would be a better option than the pile of steaming garbage we got.

On the other hand I do want it to do well so that they can continue to improve the platform. If they see it is doing well and start developing a MKVI then they will hopefully hear the fan base(they definitely are aware of people's complaints) and improve it. I think my hopes of it being in a class with like the z06 or ZR1 and what not is just a pipe dream, however I would hope that if they continue it the next generation is much improved as far as performance. I really do believe Toyota underestimated the fan base of the Supra on this one and hope they correct it in the future