At this point... what would be a deal killer?
#181
Le Mans Master
EDIT: Side note, I also need room in the foot well for my size 15 shoes.
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Last edited by VetteVinnie; 07-18-2019 at 10:27 AM.
#182
Burning Brakes
For me its 3 things:
Looks: This relates to the base/z51. Even if the base looks good, it will almost undoubtedly look plain jane (just like the c6/c7) once the wide bodies come out. So i'll be curious if the base/z51 can hold its own in the looks department once the Z drops
Price: This relates to the higher performing models. How much will the Z go for?
Performance: No doubt the Z will be a force. What will the base-grand sports do. If it isn't much more than what my current '14 z51 does i'll definitely not be looking at either of these and instead save my pennies for a Z
I'm a manual fanboy, but have no issues with giving a DCT a try. Like others, i'm a lil concerned after seeing the current a8...
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ToddC7 (07-18-2019)
#184
Well at least this time, there is no one complaining about not having round taillights. I remember all the comments on this forum before the C7 was introduced.
#185
No, they're complaining about "Camaro" tail lights. It's deja vu all over again.
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kratedisease (07-18-2019)
#188
Team Owner
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kratedisease (07-18-2019)
#189
Melting Slicks
I bet your wrong with all your birdy info. at least on the manul part. numbers are not there to support it dropping it, and putting a stick trans axle in the back of the car is already where it was in vets so not huge leaps in comparisons to new trans only.
Last edited by mittens; 07-18-2019 at 03:30 PM.
#190
Team Owner
Thread Starter
2. No manual transaxle exists that is rated to the torque output of the LT and future motors.
3. Everyone on the inside says there's no manual.
EDIT - Go search my other "birdy" posts.... they've all been correct.
Last edited by RapidC84B; 07-18-2019 at 03:31 PM.
#191
Instructor
1. The interior shots leaked show no way to put a manual stick in the console. The footwell has a huge dead pedal because it's optimized for not having a manual option.
2. No manual transaxle exists that is rated to the torque output of the LT and future motors.
3. Everyone on the inside says there's no manual.
EDIT - Go search my other "birdy" posts.... they've all been correct.
2. No manual transaxle exists that is rated to the torque output of the LT and future motors.
3. Everyone on the inside says there's no manual.
EDIT - Go search my other "birdy" posts.... they've all been correct.
#192
Le Mans Master
It will come down to sales and demand.
#193
All the more reason scores of us are not going to jump in buying a C8, unless and until it has a manual transmission. ..
By then, we'll be able to assess the C8 more fully, get MSRP discounts ordering new, AND have the design nuances and power plant options that come along in the 2nd and 3rd years...
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#194
Um, hate to brake it to you, but the numbers do in fact support that most C7 sales have an auto trans. With the leak of the interior and actual proof of a DCT, there's not going to be a manual option for the time being. I agree however, that perhaps with the GS/Z06 there might be a manual option but that's a few years down the line minimum.
#195
I don’t know what is wrong with all you people !!
1) There is NO sex in the Champagne Room
2) There is NO manual in the C8.
Can’t you people get it thru your thick heads !!!
1) There is NO sex in the Champagne Room
2) There is NO manual in the C8.
Can’t you people get it thru your thick heads !!!
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d16dcoe45 (07-18-2019)
#196
That, is what many of us believe GM may have in the works.
All the more reason scores of us are not going to jump in buying a C8, unless and until it has a manual transmission. ..
By then, we'll be able to assess the C8 more fully, get MSRP discounts ordering new, AND have the design nuances and power plant options that come along in the 2nd and 3rd years...
All the more reason scores of us are not going to jump in buying a C8, unless and until it has a manual transmission. ..
By then, we'll be able to assess the C8 more fully, get MSRP discounts ordering new, AND have the design nuances and power plant options that come along in the 2nd and 3rd years...
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#197
Pro
Nasty and stupid? Wow, just a metaphor, and I wasn't referring to you. It's precisely related to the point you made. Yes, change is inevitable, but one can live life to the fullest while one can, especially with regard to things that are highly valued.
What is stupid is passing judgement on other's choices when they don't coincide with yours.
What is stupid is passing judgement on other's choices when they don't coincide with yours.
I myself haven't passed judgement on anyone, you clearly didn't read what I wrote in my post or you didn't comprehend it.
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#198
Melting Slicks
Um, hate to brake it to you, but the numbers do in fact support that most C7 sales have an auto trans. With the leak of the interior and actual proof of a DCT, there's not going to be a manual option for the time being. I agree however, that perhaps with the GS/Z06 there might be a manual option but that's a few years down the line minimum.
vs 25%. Sticks. (Over 50% of Z cars are sticks)
i am not saying it will have one. But sure hope it does. And they are giving up on a large market percentage if not.
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#199
I would love to have a manual. Maybe GM is trying to weed out the manual buyers and lure in the millennial gen who dont know how to drive a stick . Just my 2cents
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schizcat (07-18-2019)
#200
Burning Brakes
With everything we "know" to date, what would be a deal killer to where you'd pull your deposit and not buy the car? For me... about the only thing would be price i.e. I can't afford it. I truly hope GM doesn't "camaroize" the face and black out the lower lip like the StreetSpeed leak. That would be very very disappointing to me especially given they did a 180 on the Camaro face. Would it stop me from buying the car? Probably not.