The C8 Z06
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#82
Drifting
Not much of a dog in this fight but the Corvette Racing Team 5.5 engines only have to be reliable for the race. They have more than one engine ready to go and usually have the ability to rebuild said engine after each race if needed.
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#89
Team Owner
#90
Again, just my PREFERENCE.
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Burning Brakes
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All I was trying to point out, as a layman, was that the global consensus appears to be that the DOHC solution for most race and road cars (and bikes for that matter) is the more appropriate choice. Are they all wrong? I have nothing against the OHV engine or GM or anything else, but the points I made about the majority approach were true and valid. Also, the points I made about global warming and the different opinions and approaches that governments take to address them (technical restrictions and taxation) are directly related to the design goals of the engine manufacturers. The US has an approach that is less stringent than they have in Europe specifically because of the opinions and views of its politicians.
Having others intentionally misinterpret my arguments, and attempt to disregard or not even read them is pretty offensive to me, no matter who the poster is. I did not disrespect or attempt to belittle JVP but for some reason he chose to take that approach with me, when I called him on it, he took the typically bully retort of calling me out for disrespecting him. Really, I genuinely appreciate your sympathy, it really does mean to world to me.
At the end of the day, I stand by my comments on OHV vs DOHC, not because I technically can discuss which is or isn't better, but because most manufacturers take that route. If you can show me that the majority of manufacturers of auto engines favor the OHV over the DOHC, go ahead.
Having others intentionally misinterpret my arguments, and attempt to disregard or not even read them is pretty offensive to me, no matter who the poster is. I did not disrespect or attempt to belittle JVP but for some reason he chose to take that approach with me, when I called him on it, he took the typically bully retort of calling me out for disrespecting him. Really, I genuinely appreciate your sympathy, it really does mean to world to me.
At the end of the day, I stand by my comments on OHV vs DOHC, not because I technically can discuss which is or isn't better, but because most manufacturers take that route. If you can show me that the majority of manufacturers of auto engines favor the OHV over the DOHC, go ahead.
Global warming !!!!!! I mean Climate Change !!! I mean Global Warming !!! I mean Climate Change ( let's just change it to climate change so we can attach the hysteria to any weather event and brainwash the masses...earthquake..climate change ! It's cold...climate change!! It's hot...climate change !! ) The biggest government control, money grab scam of our lifetime perpetuated by scientists who were caught doctoring research to keep their government funded grants.
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Burning Brakes
Global warming !!!!!! I mean Climate Change !!! I mean Global Warming !!! I mean Climate Change ( let's just change it to climate change so we can attach the hysteria to any weather event and brainwash the masses...earthquake..climate change ! It's cold...climate change!! It's hot...climate change !! ) The biggest government control, money grab scam of our lifetime perpetuated by scientists who were caught doctoring research to keep their government funded grants.
#98
Melting Slicks
In reality, cam-in-block engines are newer than OHC engines and they offer a number of weight and packaging advantages over DOHC engines, but the non-engineering public thinks OHC is “cooler” and “more relevant”, so from a marketing perspective, I agree with you; however, to keep the base C8 reasonably priced, using an LT engine gives great corporate economy of scale and the LT engines are strong and reliable and GM has kept them completely up-to-date technologically.
I suspect the higher-end C8s will have all the bells-and -whistles—dohc, TT, hybrid. all wheel drive, probably 4-wheel steering, low speed front lift, active aero—and will cost a lot more but will be the tech leaders GM wants them to be. But we can all buy and brag about them to our Euro sportscar friends....after we blow by them at the track. 😜
P.S. If GM really wants to throw a touchdown here, what they should do is ditch double overhead cams, 4V, and have direct pneumatic 4 valve actuation like Renault developed for F1 several years ago and put this on an ultra high-end “super” Zora. The pneumatic valve actuation enabled these engines to turn around 22,000 RPM before the FIA decided they needed to cut costs and reduce RPM range. That would be a technological bragging point that no other street car in the world has, as far as I know. Build a 10,000 rpm street engine!
I suspect the higher-end C8s will have all the bells-and -whistles—dohc, TT, hybrid. all wheel drive, probably 4-wheel steering, low speed front lift, active aero—and will cost a lot more but will be the tech leaders GM wants them to be. But we can all buy and brag about them to our Euro sportscar friends....after we blow by them at the track. 😜
P.S. If GM really wants to throw a touchdown here, what they should do is ditch double overhead cams, 4V, and have direct pneumatic 4 valve actuation like Renault developed for F1 several years ago and put this on an ultra high-end “super” Zora. The pneumatic valve actuation enabled these engines to turn around 22,000 RPM before the FIA decided they needed to cut costs and reduce RPM range. That would be a technological bragging point that no other street car in the world has, as far as I know. Build a 10,000 rpm street engine!
#99
Advanced
Mazda Wankel Rotary engines have been able to hit 10k+ rpm for years with just a simple rev limit raise on the ecu.
#100
Not surprisingly, someone creates a thread regarding the upcoming Z06 and it quickly devolves into a pissing match over who knows the most (or least) about engines. Geesh.
Back on topic...I, for one, am trying to decide whether to pass on the base and wait for the Z, or buy the base and sell it when the Z comes out. Given that I'm a ZR1 and McLaren owner, I suspect I will be underwhelmed with the performance. But, I'm really curious about the chassis and tech of the new platform. I'm interested to hear from others that may also be on the fence...
Back on topic...I, for one, am trying to decide whether to pass on the base and wait for the Z, or buy the base and sell it when the Z comes out. Given that I'm a ZR1 and McLaren owner, I suspect I will be underwhelmed with the performance. But, I'm really curious about the chassis and tech of the new platform. I'm interested to hear from others that may also be on the fence...
Last edited by Glenn Quagmire; 07-15-2019 at 09:55 AM.