99999

Had an R8 before I couldn’t stop myself from stepping up to the Huracan. Never seen a better interior/build than the R8. I’m really hoping the C8 is a new leap for GM in that regard.

Outlaw7

You are correct on the hurdles and have listed the most important ones. Fortunately, there is a solution for the ones that concern me most on the horizon - the solid state or more correctly the solid electrolyte batteries. They will store almost twice the power in a battery the same size and weight as the ones we currently have. Plus they will practically eliminate the danger of fire associated with very rapid charging. My criteria for an EV is a 400+ mile range and 80% charge in less than 30 minutes, both easily met by the new batteries. No EV meets it currently but maybe in 2 or 3 years some will. Perhaps if they become more popular the price will decrease with the increase in volume.

con2macious

I just bought a C7. I built it to my specs and the dealer offered such a good deal that I didn't even negotiate. Then the horror began. The dealer sent all the documents as PDFs rather than docusigns

punky

Oh, OK. So a C7 has the interior of an 80s Pontiac Fiero? Really? Absolutely idiotic statement.

jefnvk

That would be a great threshold to hit, five hours give or take a bit and a meal's worth of charging time. I think you could even hit mass adaptation with with less range, so long as the network of chargers was available. Most folks I know are ready to stretch their legs after three hours, you've just gotta have the capacity and availability of half hour chargers.

Michael A

There is nothing sexy about meeting strict government regulations. Obviously, whether or not something is "exotic" is subjective, so to each his/her own. When you cut the cylinder count to that of a minivan, I don't care what they do to it, it is not exotic to me. All the ingredients of an exotic car have to be present, not just some of them. It's like a beautiful woman, but she cut all her hair off. She is no longer exotic.

I would say if V6s are being put in "exotic cars", then we are entering a dark era in automotive history. Gone is the visceral sound. Gone are the looks of the engine. This is likely the beginning of the end of the horsepower race. You can only get so much power from limited displacement with pump gas.

formulaWA

While the Fiero had a "classic" 80's interior the build quality was actually very good for several reasons. It was the 1st US car to implement Japanese assembly and quality control processes in it's assembly. The space frame was the strongest structural frame of any car of it's era and had the best crash ratings of any US car in it's era. (bested only by a Volvo station wagon.) The space frame was formed and drilled simultaneously in a giant house sized milling machine so the consistency was excellent. Unlike the Corvette at that time the Fiero did not creak or squeak at all.

bave

Maybe that is true, but when you are trying to compete with high end sports cars you can't have the *hands down* worst interior every goddamned time a new generation of the car comes out. The corvette is supposed to be the flagship of GM and it looks like a trailer park hot-rod anymore. Yea, it's fast, but at this point you can buy a lot of 11s cars that are actually better looking in and out.

Yea, it kinda does. The same way the C6 had a **** interior, along with the C5 etc. Building a car that is fast is great, building a car that is fast and looks like it was built with junkyard parts, not so great. The idea that Corvette is going to compete with real high end cars with their current interior designs is laughable, just laughable.

C8UR911

I think people like you who actually value a high performance car based on its merits-and-value ratio will buy the vette. HOWEVER, most people buying all the cars you just listed are buying them to be seen in them and to show off a particular badge. For this majority of people, the corvette badge is simply not enough to announce to the world that they have arrived. These people will continue to pay far more for a Lambo, Ferrari, Audi, Porsche, Mercedes, etc. The C8 won’t change this. It may attract a bit more successful young people, but that’s about it. The badge hunters will still snub their noses to corvette.

sly1

So a $150K R8 has a better interior than a $50K Corvette? Wow that's surprising.

punky

Wow. Corvette interiors according to you look like they were built with junk yard parts, Really? Yet another absolutely stupid statement.

oregonsharkman

Bave - Beat it Troll - You clearly are here to spout BS and rile people up.

dsevo

Bave hasn't written anything I disagree with yet.

punky

LOL! You are in agreement with a guy who states that Corvettes look like they are built from "junk yard" parts. Hard to imagine that anyone would share that sentiment. Simply amazing.

BEAR-AvHistory

Depends on how much street power is enough. So far about 690 for pump gas 6 cylinder. When it comes to sound many think exotic sounds only comes from a V-12.

punky

What 4 or 6 cylinder car sounds really good compared to V8s and V12s?

bave

Do you really think anything in a Corvette interior looks like it is from a similar generation competitor? Look at the interior of other high end sports cars and show me where the quality and design is similar. Got any?

Actually not, been a member of this forum for a decade, during which I have been a pretty consistent critic of the overall quality of corvettes. Look at the sales volume of Corvettes, the average selling price relative to MSRP, and the retained value of the used cars. They are all pointing to the same thing, a declining brand/model. They are three years in to the current model and sales are already dropping below an average of ~1500 month? Does that sound like a success?

Look, I would love to sit here and tell you that the Corvette is a top tier car, but it's not, and I don't think GM gives a ****. They have a chassis and powertrain that can deliver but their interior and overall build quality is absolute garbage. The interior of a $70k Corvette gets trounced by $35k Japanese sedans. Hell, even the Koreans are starting to put together nicer interiors. It's a joke and a shame. We will see in six weeks if GM has learned anything, but I doubt it.

jefnvk

What V8 really sounds good next to a V12 or W16?

RapidC84B

A 289 solid lifter SBF turning 9K on a road course sounds pretty amazing.

BEAR-AvHistory

FORD VOODOO flat-plane crank at 8200 RPM has a great sound much like a Ferrari or McLaren V8. But IMHO its hard to beat an Italian V-12 at WOT for turning gasoline into great noise.