GM to hold the line on pricing!
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#42
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Tool, I would expect you to at least comprehend the technical differences between a Camaro and a ZORA since you coach at VIR. It's mind boggling to me that some believe this 62k nonsense that nobody at GM has announced yet.
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#43
What’s your point? The current base cas is $57K va the Camaro you reference. The car will base low $60s with the full Kill Zora in the $170 range. Just like a work truck is $30K and a Denali dually is $90K.
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#44
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Consider the c7 starts at 57 grand. Add in an 8 speed automatic and you are at 59 grand.
the actual difference from c7 A8 to c8 dct8 is only three grand.
we dont even know what other c7 options have become standard on the c8 so that 3 grand might shrink even further.
i believe the mrc is 2 grand and the z51 is five grand.
porsche s 911 dct accelerates 8 tenths of a second to 60 mph and in the quarter mile compared to the manual 911.
i fully expect the 460 hp c8 dct to accelerate to sixty mph and in the quarter mile 8 tenths of a second quicker than a c7 z51 manual.
add another 40 hp and we could see another few tenths...
69 grand for a c8 z51 fe4 sounds like a hell of a choice.
i cam live without color coordinated brake calibers and seat belts.
maybe add a grand for the front end lift system...
the actual difference from c7 A8 to c8 dct8 is only three grand.
we dont even know what other c7 options have become standard on the c8 so that 3 grand might shrink even further.
i believe the mrc is 2 grand and the z51 is five grand.
porsche s 911 dct accelerates 8 tenths of a second to 60 mph and in the quarter mile compared to the manual 911.
i fully expect the 460 hp c8 dct to accelerate to sixty mph and in the quarter mile 8 tenths of a second quicker than a c7 z51 manual.
add another 40 hp and we could see another few tenths...
69 grand for a c8 z51 fe4 sounds like a hell of a choice.
i cam live without color coordinated brake calibers and seat belts.
maybe add a grand for the front end lift system...
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#45
Burning Brakes
The Camaro ZL1 currently starts at $62K bare bones base price. We have a lot of dreamers on this site if they think this sophisticated ME will start at the same price as a generic unibody Camaro. The same unibody construction thats on millions of other generic $20k econoboxes.
- LT4 V8 with 650hp/650lb-ft
- 6-Piston front and 4 Piston rear Brembos
- eLSD, Mangnetic Ride Control, Dual-mode exhaust
- 285/305 staggered summer-only Goodyears
- 12 heat exchangers (no overheating!)
- Alcantara heated/ventilated seats, Alcantara heated flat-bottom steering wheel, and alcantara shift ****
- 8” touchscreen, HUD, Bose audio, wireless charger
- Rear camera mirror
- illuminated door sills and 2-3 dozen interior ambient lighting color options
- Standard red seat belts with most colors
- Clear/tinted taillights
- blind zone alert
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Burning Brakes
On a list a mechanical equipment, high-performance Camaros are identical to Corvettes. However, it’s totally correct that the Corvette is more advanced and complex than the Camaro. That’s the reason why the C7 Stingray is nearly $20,000 more than a Camaro with the same engine and much of the same equipment.
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#48
Melting Slicks
No surprise to anyone with the smallest amount of business sense ....you simply held on to that FE C7.5
tooth fairy theory like it was a crucifix ...
8th generation ,it takes over where the 7th left off.
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#50
I test drove a c7 this past weekend. Salesman told me the c8 would be limited production, and start in the mid 130s, just where the to be continued c7 models top out. I didn't really believe he had some inside info he was sharing, but it did get me close to pulling the trigger.
If this is true, looks like I can quit looking at c7s now and start planning for a c8. What's another year?
If this is true, looks like I can quit looking at c7s now and start planning for a c8. What's another year?
#51
C8 z51 3lt
When I purchased my 2014 C7 Z51 3lt the car MSRP was right at 73k
I suspect that a C8 optioned the same will be close to 80k.
Still a relatively bargain for a 500hp DCT Mid engine sports car.
Honestly I am surprised that the base car came in under 70k.
Corvette follows it's rich history of great performance for the dollar.
I had hoped that it would be 10k higher base than C7 so that GM could upgrade the materials and switch gear on the C8 interior.
I would gladly pay a 10k premium and have an interior that was on par with the Corvette European counterparts.
If we get the same level of upgrade we received from the C6 interior to the C7 I am sure it will be close to the interior quality seen on many European vehicles.
Again still under cuts Porsche 911 s price by at least 30k or more and will perform at least as well as the 911.
With this proven formula GM will sell every C8 they can make for the 1st 2 or 3 year at MSRP.
I hope that the Z06 will follow quickly and be available sometime in 2020 as that's the car I really would rather purchase.
I go ahead and order the z51 then when Z06 is released just trade the z51 in.
Same thing I did with the C7 . I excited we finally got an official announcement from GM!!!!
I suspect that a C8 optioned the same will be close to 80k.
Still a relatively bargain for a 500hp DCT Mid engine sports car.
Honestly I am surprised that the base car came in under 70k.
Corvette follows it's rich history of great performance for the dollar.
I had hoped that it would be 10k higher base than C7 so that GM could upgrade the materials and switch gear on the C8 interior.
I would gladly pay a 10k premium and have an interior that was on par with the Corvette European counterparts.
If we get the same level of upgrade we received from the C6 interior to the C7 I am sure it will be close to the interior quality seen on many European vehicles.
Again still under cuts Porsche 911 s price by at least 30k or more and will perform at least as well as the 911.
With this proven formula GM will sell every C8 they can make for the 1st 2 or 3 year at MSRP.
I hope that the Z06 will follow quickly and be available sometime in 2020 as that's the car I really would rather purchase.
I go ahead and order the z51 then when Z06 is released just trade the z51 in.
Same thing I did with the C7 . I excited we finally got an official announcement from GM!!!!
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If the actual starting price is $62K, the increase in price over the C7 may actually be less than $5K. We don't know what's standard on the C8 yet. If the DCT transmission is standard, then a fair comparison to the MSRP of a C7 should include the A8 which adds around $3K to the price of the C7. That means the actual increase in price over the C7 will only be a measly $2,000.
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#53
The small dealers who only sell a handful of Corvettes a years don't. But, some of the large forum dealers have had quite a bit of info shared. They simply honored their NDAs with GM, and did not leak specific info.
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I was hoping though for pricing near the Cayman. With a Cayman base of $55,300 and the Cayman S of $67,700.
Speaking of the Cayman, why would anyone think that a base corvette would start at a price over the Cayman S just because the corvette is mid engine? The Cayman is a mid engine car too, why wouldn't the mid engine Corvette be about the same?
Porsche is the main competition for the Vette not Farrari.
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I'm not so sure about that. Someone handed him a shovel and he's just continuing to dig himself into a deeper and deeper pit. The word "class" would imply he also has the humility to publicly acknowledge that he's been wrong about a number of things regarding this new car. But we won't read a post like that from him.
Best thing to do is just ignore what he writes and stop debating things with him. He's bringing you down to his level.
Best thing to do is just ignore what he writes and stop debating things with him. He's bringing you down to his level.
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#58
Melting Slicks
When I purchased my 2014 C7 Z51 3lt the car MSRP was right at 73k
I suspect that a C8 optioned the same will be close to 80k.
Still a relatively bargain for a 500hp DCT Mid engine sports car.
Honestly I am surprised that the base car came in under 70k.
Corvette follows it's rich history of great performance for the dollar.
I had hoped that it would be 10k higher base than C7 so that GM could upgrade the materials and switch gear on the C8 interior.
I would gladly pay a 10k premium and have an interior that was on par with the Corvette European counterparts.
If we get the same level of upgrade we received from the C6 interior to the C7 I am sure it will be close to the interior quality seen on many European vehicles.
Again still under cuts Porsche 911 s price by at least 30k or more and will perform at least as well as the 911.
With this proven formula GM will sell every C8 they can make for the 1st 2 or 3 year at MSRP.
I hope that the Z06 will follow quickly and be available sometime in 2020 as that's the car I really would rather purchase.
I go ahead and order the z51 then when Z06 is released just trade the z51 in.
Same thing I did with the C7 . I excited we finally got an official announcement from GM!!!!
I suspect that a C8 optioned the same will be close to 80k.
Still a relatively bargain for a 500hp DCT Mid engine sports car.
Honestly I am surprised that the base car came in under 70k.
Corvette follows it's rich history of great performance for the dollar.
I had hoped that it would be 10k higher base than C7 so that GM could upgrade the materials and switch gear on the C8 interior.
I would gladly pay a 10k premium and have an interior that was on par with the Corvette European counterparts.
If we get the same level of upgrade we received from the C6 interior to the C7 I am sure it will be close to the interior quality seen on many European vehicles.
Again still under cuts Porsche 911 s price by at least 30k or more and will perform at least as well as the 911.
With this proven formula GM will sell every C8 they can make for the 1st 2 or 3 year at MSRP.
I hope that the Z06 will follow quickly and be available sometime in 2020 as that's the car I really would rather purchase.
I go ahead and order the z51 then when Z06 is released just trade the z51 in.
Same thing I did with the C7 . I excited we finally got an official announcement from GM!!!!
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What happens when the C8 base coupe has marginal performance levels/gains when compared to the current C7? Specs/numbers on paper sell magazines, numbers on the window sticker sell cars. If the new C8 was an extraordinary performer, the price would be more competitive with P car prices, that's 911 prices not 718. Is it an extraordinary performer to compete with the 911? If so, it will sell biggly at that price!
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What happens when the C8 base coupe has marginal performance levels/gains when compared to the current C7? Specs/numbers on paper sell magazines, numbers on the window sticker sell cars. If the new C8 was an extraordinary performer, the price would be more competitive with P car prices, that's 911 prices not 718. Is it an extraordinary performer to compete with the 911? If so, it will sell biggly at that price!
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