Is Chevy making a mistake with auto-only C8 ?
03-08-2019, 03:59 PM
#121
Pro
Id be fine with a DCT as long as it has a clutch peddle for my left foot and a shiftier for my right hand. I don't think that's very hard for them to accomplish or expensive.
03-08-2019, 04:00 PM
#122
03-08-2019, 05:53 PM
#123
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Personally, I liked being able to keep both hands on the wheel at all times at Spring Mountain, paddle-shifting an automatic, because of the G-loads the Z06 is capable of generating.
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03-08-2019, 06:01 PM
#124
Banned Scam/Spammer
Excuse my ignorance, but what did Porsche do?
03-08-2019, 06:18 PM
#125
If the C8 offers a Targa and MT I'm in once the Z06 equivalent comes along. I have continuously owned a MT corvette since 1988 and l love my C7 Z06 (it really is a pretty amazing car on the track on around town). If there is no C8 MT a 911 MT of some form is likely my next track/weekend car. I am really hoping they offer a C8 MT because that makes my decision simple.
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Foosh (03-08-2019)
03-08-2019, 06:30 PM
#126
Ditto
03-08-2019, 07:08 PM
#127
The logic contained in some of these comments is quite entertaining. Arguing that the C8 should include a proper manual transmission because the competition has abandoned the technology and filling in this gap will add sales is like arguing that because other manufacturers have abandoned 8 Track tapes therefore Corvette should fill in the gap and have an 8 Track player. It doesn't make any sense and says Corvette should cling to the past, not the future. A clutch pedal and stick is dead technology.
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ptalar (03-14-2019)
03-08-2019, 07:08 PM
#128
Burning Brakes
People aren't understanding what a DCT is. You would need two clutch pedals and two gear levers. That would be quite a handful to try to drive
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jefnvk (03-09-2019)
03-08-2019, 10:29 PM
#129
Le Mans Master
The logic contained in some of these comments is quite entertaining. Arguing that the C8 should include a proper manual transmission because the competition has abandoned the technology and filling in this gap will add sales is like arguing that because other manufacturers have abandoned 8 Track tapes therefore Corvette should fill in the gap and have an 8 Track player. It doesn't make any sense and says Corvette should cling to the past, not the future. A clutch pedal and stick is dead technology.
Last edited by Michael A; 03-08-2019 at 10:30 PM.
03-08-2019, 10:30 PM
#130
I believe he is saying that you could have a clutch pedal that electronically actuates the appropriate clutch (as determined by the vehicle), and a stick shift that electronically tells the car which gear to select (like in an arcade game). Basically spoofing the interaction and feel of a traditional stick shift while having the internals and protective software of a DCT/Automatic.
I am also a fan of the stick shift, and the lack of one in a Vette would definitely push me towards a Porsche if they offered a stick shift.
If the Vette was just "that good" I might settle for a DCT, but it would not be my first choice.
-T
03-08-2019, 10:48 PM
#131
Le Mans Master
I don't think he is saying what you think he is saying.
I believe he is saying that you could have a clutch pedal that electronically actuates the appropriate clutch (as determined by the vehicle), and a stick shift that electronically tells the car which gear to select (like in an arcade game). Basically spoofing the interaction and feel of a traditional stick shift while having the internals and protective software of a DCT/Automatic.
I am also a fan of the stick shift, and the lack of one in a Vette would definitely push me towards a Porsche if they offered a stick shift.
If the Vette was just "that good" I might settle for a DCT, but it would not be my first choice.
-T
I believe he is saying that you could have a clutch pedal that electronically actuates the appropriate clutch (as determined by the vehicle), and a stick shift that electronically tells the car which gear to select (like in an arcade game). Basically spoofing the interaction and feel of a traditional stick shift while having the internals and protective software of a DCT/Automatic.
I am also a fan of the stick shift, and the lack of one in a Vette would definitely push me towards a Porsche if they offered a stick shift.
If the Vette was just "that good" I might settle for a DCT, but it would not be my first choice.
-T
Last edited by Michael A; 03-08-2019 at 10:51 PM.
03-08-2019, 10:49 PM
#132
Banned Scam/Spammer
Those who wish can call the DCT a manual, and those who wish can call it an automatic. Works for everyone, except those who are stuck on the "stick" nomenclature. 
My buddy's 911 turbo is a DCT, but also has a clutch pedal. I guess Porsche was trying to keep a foot in both worlds, until everything shakes out.
My buddy's 911 turbo is a DCT, but also has a clutch pedal. I guess Porsche was trying to keep a foot in both worlds, until everything shakes out.
03-08-2019, 10:54 PM
#133
It's one reason why I bought a C7. I was assured a manual transmission. Also, I only wanted the convertible. I was perfectly willing to wait the two+ or so years for a C8. If there's no manual, and no convertible C8, I'm pretty sure I'm good for a few years with my C7.
03-09-2019, 02:18 AM
#134
Melting Slicks
I don't disagree with you. I simply said I'd hold on as long as I can, and I just have a hunch they'll get a lot of blowback at least over the next 5, maybe up to 10 years. Thus, it wouldn't surprise me to see a manual return if it isn't initially offered that way. When Porsche drops it once and for all, that will be the clue that they're really gone forever.
I don't think carb vs. fuel injection is a good analogy though, because for many it's a difference in the fun and involvement factor. I don't know how anyone could argue that for carb vs. FI.
I don't think carb vs. fuel injection is a good analogy though, because for many it's a difference in the fun and involvement factor. I don't know how anyone could argue that for carb vs. FI.
03-09-2019, 10:47 AM
#136
Pro
I have a chavy
03-09-2019, 10:54 AM
#137
Drifting
Those who insist on a manual tranny can buy a Camaro, at least for the first year or two of the C8's production. Front engine is best for manual trannys anyways since gears can be shifted directly without a long complicated linkage to the rear of the car.
03-09-2019, 11:24 AM
#138
With regard to your assertions about the long and complicated linkage, how do you explain how Porsche has done it since 1952 to present and VW Beetle before that? And you do understand that the transmission has been in the rear of Corvettes for 22 years (C5-C7) don't you? What about that "long and complicated linkage?"
The logic contained in some of these comments is quite entertaining. Arguing that the C8 should include a proper manual transmission because the competition has abandoned the technology and filling in this gap will add sales is like arguing that because other manufacturers have abandoned 8 Track tapes therefore Corvette should fill in the gap and have an 8 Track player. It doesn't make any sense and says Corvette should cling to the past, not the future. A clutch pedal and stick is dead technology.
I did not argue, " . . . that the C8 should include a proper manual transmission because the competition has abandoned the technology." I said Corvette sells as surprisingly large percentage of manual C7s (23%) because most of the competition does not offer it. That fact is undeniable. Some folks like myself only purchased a C7 because of it.
That's how market research is done, and the large take rate of C7 manuals was no doubt considered during the C8 design process. What was decided and why is an unknown at this point, and just another topic of pure speculation without foundation.
Last edited by Foosh; 03-09-2019 at 05:46 PM.
03-09-2019, 12:20 PM
#139
Burning Brakes
This debate is always hilarious..... not to change the subject... did you notice the F8 added at hood scoop ...just like a Corvette!!!!!!! There will never be a manual trans in the C8...take that to the bank.
