Could GMs Plan be to force Stingray buyers to Camaro by pricing the C8 high?
02-24-2018, 10:13 PM
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I have been lurking and thinking here. In the past couple of years they have brought Camaro almost to the level of the Stingray in HP and even price. Could GMs idea for a ME Corvette be to chase away the $60K Corvette buyer to the now very similar in HP Camaro? It seems to me GM has for the last few model years been upping the ante on the Camaro to the point that some specs are very close to the base Stingray. Could this have been the plan all along. If the mid engine car is priced near $90K its going to price a lot of buyers out of the Corvette market and suddenly bolster the Camaro sales its just a thought.
I've owned Corvettes and F-Bodies over the past 3 decades. Often, each at the same time. They each serve a different use, and do not compete with one another. Price had nothing to due with which I bought, and when. Your mileage may vary.
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02-24-2018, 11:20 PM
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They aren't forcing Stingray buyers to buy Camaros but yes, the Camaro has moved upmarket compared to the previous generations. That's on purpose.
The Corvette has done the same to a certain extent.
The Corvette has done the same to a certain extent.
02-24-2018, 11:24 PM
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So you think the ME car will start at like 130k, with the higher models presumably costing as much as 150k or more ?
The only way that would make sense is if the upcoming C8 remains front engine and the ME car is a totally separate line intended to compete head to head against high end Porsche and McLaren buyers.
I think the ME is the C8.
I guess the base ME/C8 will cost around 60-70k. (A little more than a C7 but nothing drastic) It will have an atmospheric pushrod engine making somewhere north of 500hp. The Z06 and ZR1 models will use a twin turbo DOHC, making at least 700-800hp.
The only way that would make sense is if the upcoming C8 remains front engine and the ME car is a totally separate line intended to compete head to head against high end Porsche and McLaren buyers.
I think the ME is the C8.
I guess the base ME/C8 will cost around 60-70k. (A little more than a C7 but nothing drastic) It will have an atmospheric pushrod engine making somewhere north of 500hp. The Z06 and ZR1 models will use a twin turbo DOHC, making at least 700-800hp.
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02-24-2018, 11:45 PM
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02-24-2018, 11:46 PM
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So you think the ME car will start at like 130k, with the higher models presumably costing as much as 150k or more ?
The only way that would make sense is if the upcoming C8 remains front engine and the ME car is a totally separate line intended to compete head to head against high end Porsche and McLaren buyers.
I think the ME is the C8.
I guess the base ME/C8 will cost around 60-70k. (A little more than a C7 but nothing drastic) It will have an atmospheric pushrod engine making somewhere north of 500hp. The Z06 and ZR1 models will use a twin turbo DOHC, making at least 700-800hp.
The only way that would make sense is if the upcoming C8 remains front engine and the ME car is a totally separate line intended to compete head to head against high end Porsche and McLaren buyers.
I think the ME is the C8.
I guess the base ME/C8 will cost around 60-70k. (A little more than a C7 but nothing drastic) It will have an atmospheric pushrod engine making somewhere north of 500hp. The Z06 and ZR1 models will use a twin turbo DOHC, making at least 700-800hp.
If the C8 goes to $130K, I don't care how good it is, they will only sell about 5000 of them. That can't be the plan. I am guessing the C8 will sell for about what a Grand Sport will sell for today, ($75-80K).
I would also hazard a guess that it be available with either an LT1 or and LT4 as an option (not a separate model). The volume available above the mid-engine will allow them to solve the LT4 intercooler problem cheaply and easily.
The "Zora" top-end model will be introduced a year later and get the DOHC turbo 5.5L engine.
02-24-2018, 11:50 PM
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I was in college during those years. Those were the days of Donna Summers Disco, Hot Pants and free love, Dude. A Corvette, (even if was slow), could get you laid without a lot of work.
02-25-2018, 12:08 AM
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02-25-2018, 08:42 AM
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Her other car was a black Mercury marquis ...and her younger sister went to school everyday in a limo...
I was saddened to hear she passed away of cancer ten years ago but I'll always remember the years together and of course that smoking hot ...
Life is good...
Back in those days I was driving a 1969 bright yellow convertible with black interior and black top worked 350 firebird....with those Dunlop GT Qualifer tires.....
Donna summers and The Bee Gees was all the rage....disco was king...lol
Good memories 40 years later...
GM is not trying to push standard corvette owners buyers into camaros with the next generation corvettes design...
They are or will be doing their best to get corvette enthusiasts into the latest and greatest corvettes..
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02-25-2018, 01:48 PM
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Corvette=Apple; Camaro=Orange. Nobody is going to be "forced" into a Camaro. Would you? As far as I am concerned, the Camaro is a sedan. There are any number of sedans that have performance close to a Corvette. If the C8 were over-priced beyond what I was willing to pay, I'd look to something like Jaguar or BMW or a Boxster. Camaro is out of the question.
02-25-2018, 02:35 PM
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Corvette=Apple; Camaro=Orange. Nobody is going to be "forced" into a Camaro. Would you? As far as I am concerned, the Camaro is a sedan. There are any number of sedans that have performance close to a Corvette. If the C8 were over-priced beyond what I was willing to pay, I'd look to something like Jaguar or BMW or a Boxster. Camaro is out of the question.
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02-25-2018, 03:09 PM
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02-25-2018, 03:11 PM
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Sorry, did not mean to get off topic. Only Camaro for me would be late 60s
02-25-2018, 03:54 PM
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Since I saw my first Corvette, a three week old ‘63 split that got a ride in, I am a Corvette lover — even though it took 35 years for us to afford our first one.
I will always be a Corvette lover. If I win the big lottery, I will still be a Corvette lover (though in addition to our current generation Corvette, we would add a ‘63 split and a top Lambo, Ferrari or McLaren).
While we love and drive all over our current Corvette (now a C7 Z06), we excitedly wait for the next generation Corvette. We can afford to buy one Corvette per generation, and then again only by trading in the last one. There will be a ME in our future (had a deposit down with Mike Furman (Criswell) since Feb 1, 2015.
If the out of the box ME price is too great (which I highly doubt), we would wait another year and get a lightly used one someone traded it in on their ZORA.
We are Corvette folks. Glad that others happily can come and go to Corvettes and/or to other brands. To each their own happiness!
I will always be a Corvette lover. If I win the big lottery, I will still be a Corvette lover (though in addition to our current generation Corvette, we would add a ‘63 split and a top Lambo, Ferrari or McLaren).
While we love and drive all over our current Corvette (now a C7 Z06), we excitedly wait for the next generation Corvette. We can afford to buy one Corvette per generation, and then again only by trading in the last one. There will be a ME in our future (had a deposit down with Mike Furman (Criswell) since Feb 1, 2015.
If the out of the box ME price is too great (which I highly doubt), we would wait another year and get a lightly used one someone traded it in on their ZORA.
We are Corvette folks. Glad that others happily can come and go to Corvettes and/or to other brands. To each their own happiness!
02-25-2018, 05:10 PM
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I have zero interest in a modern Camaro. Changing Corvette isn't going to move me to one.
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02-26-2018, 11:22 PM
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The alpha chassis is awesome ...especially on the track....
Lap times for professionals has been really impression....
The difference in track performance of the c7 to the camaro SS was shockingly close.
Could have been a deciding factor in pushing the c8 into rear mid engine supercar..
Lap times for professionals has been really impression....
The difference in track performance of the c7 to the camaro SS was shockingly close.
Could have been a deciding factor in pushing the c8 into rear mid engine supercar..
02-27-2018, 09:27 AM
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The alpha chassis is awesome ...especially on the track....
Lap times for professionals has been really impression....
The difference in track performance of the c7 to the camaro SS was shockingly close.
Could have been a deciding factor in pushing the c8 into rear mid engine supercar..
Lap times for professionals has been really impression....
The difference in track performance of the c7 to the camaro SS was shockingly close.
Could have been a deciding factor in pushing the c8 into rear mid engine supercar..
02-27-2018, 09:32 AM
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Back then, Corvettes were a status symbol; Porsches were not.
02-27-2018, 10:08 AM
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The alpha chassis is awesome ...especially on the track....
Lap times for professionals has been really impression....
The difference in track performance of the c7 to the camaro SS was shockingly close.
Could have been a deciding factor in pushing the c8 into rear mid engine supercar..
Lap times for professionals has been really impression....
The difference in track performance of the c7 to the camaro SS was shockingly close.
Could have been a deciding factor in pushing the c8 into rear mid engine supercar..