What harm would if be for GM to....
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What harm would if be for GM to....
Maybe I am over simplifying this, but at this point why doesn't GM come out and talk about many of the general specifics of the ME. For example the nameplate, Caddy or Chevy, when we can expect for it to be presented to the public, date it can be purchased, and some other things. I don't understand why they just don't clear up a lot of rumors that seem to be hurting the ME before it is event released.
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I don't know why they are so close-mouthed about this.
The best I can come up with is they're not sure themselves at this point.
The best I can come up with is they're not sure themselves at this point.
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Probably so. In any case, I'm confident that OEMs such as GM have a lot of statistics and experience to guide them in deciding when and how much to disclose regarding future model plans. I suspect that factors affecting these decisions include things like the effect on current model sales.
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Maybe I am over simplifying this, but at this point why doesn't GM come out and talk about many of the general specifics of the ME. For example the nameplate, Caddy or Chevy, when we can expect for it to be presented to the public, date it can be purchased, and some other things. I don't understand why they just don't clear up a lot of rumors that seem to be hurting the ME before it is event released.
1) In the 1990's, Corvette generated as much positive press as the rest of the entire GM line-up combined. Today, all the speculation in the press puts the name "Corvette" in front of millions of readers regularly....AND GM pays nothing for this press coverage. Did you notice that one of the ZR1 prototypes SLOWED UP on a highway test run to allow spy photos to be taken. GM loves all the free, positive publicity Corvette gets. And when a date comes and goes, they don't look like fools, the press gets beat up regularly on forums like this for the error.
2) Consider that the C5 was set to be released as a MY 1993. Yup, the C5 was set to be launched as part of the 40 year celebration of Corvette. But that didn't happen. So it was pushed back to 1994, no wait, there are some problems, make that 1995. No, wait more issues, 1996. No wait some more fine tuning, 1997. No, wait make that late in the model year 1997. Meanwhile all the speculators looked foolish when the C5 wasn't released.
Some can say what they want, but I think it's a brilliant tactic to avoid criticism and generate tons of free press.
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Have you read "All Corvettes Are Red"? Two factors stated in that book haven't changed.
1) In the 1990's, Corvette generated as much positive press as the rest of the entire GM line-up combined. Today, all the speculation in the press puts the name "Corvette" in front of millions of readers regularly....AND GM pays nothing for this press coverage. Did you notice that one of the ZR1 prototypes SLOWED UP on a highway test run to allow spy photos to be taken. GM loves all the free, positive publicity Corvette gets. And when a date comes and goes, they don't look like fools, the press gets beat up regularly on forums like this for the error.
2) Consider that the C5 was set to be released as a MY 1993. Yup, the C5 was set to be launched as part of the 40 year celebration of Corvette. But that didn't happen. So it was pushed back to 1994, no wait, there are some problems, make that 1995. No, wait more issues, 1996. No wait some more fine tuning, 1997. No, wait make that late in the model year 1997. Meanwhile all the speculators looked foolish when the C5 wasn't released.
Some can say what they want, but I think it's a brilliant tactic to avoid criticism and generate tons of free press.
1) In the 1990's, Corvette generated as much positive press as the rest of the entire GM line-up combined. Today, all the speculation in the press puts the name "Corvette" in front of millions of readers regularly....AND GM pays nothing for this press coverage. Did you notice that one of the ZR1 prototypes SLOWED UP on a highway test run to allow spy photos to be taken. GM loves all the free, positive publicity Corvette gets. And when a date comes and goes, they don't look like fools, the press gets beat up regularly on forums like this for the error.
2) Consider that the C5 was set to be released as a MY 1993. Yup, the C5 was set to be launched as part of the 40 year celebration of Corvette. But that didn't happen. So it was pushed back to 1994, no wait, there are some problems, make that 1995. No, wait more issues, 1996. No wait some more fine tuning, 1997. No, wait make that late in the model year 1997. Meanwhile all the speculators looked foolish when the C5 wasn't released.
Some can say what they want, but I think it's a brilliant tactic to avoid criticism and generate tons of free press.
I think if the MARKETING is done right, this would be a great time to generate so much free publicity, if they just wet the appetite. Remember before the C7 was release the campaign they had each week of giving just a slight bit of info on the internet, why not now?
With all due respect to your comment, much of the strategy from the C5 era does not apply as the internet, and other public media has grown so much, the best publicity generated today is across the public media, not the news and car rags. I appreciate you comment, and the ALL CORVETTES ARE RED book is excellent for insight, but dated in many respects also, as the world of marketing is changing daily with so much growth with personal communication devices etc.
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In many respects, internet and social media be damned, nothing has changed much. GM gets all the free publicity it wants, any missed deadlines or plan changes are written off to bad rumors by people not actually in the loop, and anticipation grows exponentially as forums such as this one fill up with posts by people who "know someone who knows someone who lives next door to a guy who sat next to a guy on the bus who heard from his third cousin . . . ." all about the New Corvette. It has ALWAYS been this way.
Those who know, don't talk. Those who talk, don't know. That's how GM wants it, and it is a proven formula.
Those who know, don't talk. Those who talk, don't know. That's how GM wants it, and it is a proven formula.
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To me, the best reason is that they still have to sell cars they are still making. They have been typically closed mouth about the cars that are coming. Once they spill the beans about the additional horsepower and significant upgrades, who wants to buy their current cars? At the end of the day, they are still bean counters (even though I love the cars they are making and probably will make in the future).
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To me, the best reason is that they still have to sell cars they are still making. They have been typically closed mouth about the cars that are coming. Once they spill the beans about the additional horsepower and significant upgrades, who wants to buy their current cars? At the end of the day, they are still bean counters (even though I love the cars they are making and probably will make in the future).
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^^^ ALL salesman say that.
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First issue is talking about a product release date can stall sales of current product.
Second issue is they want to build Hype so when the car is introduced it will sell well
Third issue is they may not want to release any info until they know when the car will actually start coming off the production line. They won't want to say it will come out on xxxx date and then as the date rolls around have to say it will be 45 days later. There are always delays when introducing new products due to failed tests, logistics issues that suddenly crop up or just **** happens.
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Second issue is they want to build Hype so when the car is introduced it will sell well
Third issue is they may not want to release any info until they know when the car will actually start coming off the production line. They won't want to say it will come out on xxxx date and then as the date rolls around have to say it will be 45 days later. There are always delays when introducing new products due to failed tests, logistics issues that suddenly crop up or just **** happens.
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Maybe I am over simplifying this, but at this point why doesn't GM come out and talk about many of the general specifics of the ME. For example the nameplate, Caddy or Chevy, when we can expect for it to be presented to the public, date it can be purchased, and some other things. I don't understand why they just don't clear up a lot of rumors that seem to be hurting the ME before it is event released.
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