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01-26-2021, 11:08 PM
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01-27-2021, 07:50 AM
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I agree 1000 percent!!!
can this much work , money, effort, unreliabilty, warranty voiding and all the rest possibly be worth it??? what are you going to gain? is there an true upside? who are you going to "beat"... and do you get paid for that?
where can you use quicker that 3.0 seconds to 60 mph... or higher big end than 185 ish?
if you really want something quicker for some reason... shouldnt you just buy a real race car for 1/2 the money... and not ruin a beautiful corvette?
just askin....
can this much work , money, effort, unreliabilty, warranty voiding and all the rest possibly be worth it??? what are you going to gain? is there an true upside? who are you going to "beat"... and do you get paid for that?
where can you use quicker that 3.0 seconds to 60 mph... or higher big end than 185 ish?
if you really want something quicker for some reason... shouldnt you just buy a real race car for 1/2 the money... and not ruin a beautiful corvette?
just askin....
Different strokes for different folks...
There is no absolute right or wrong answer for that question.
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01-27-2021, 07:08 PM
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I agree 1000 percent!!!
can this much work , money, effort, unreliabilty, warranty voiding and all the rest possibly be worth it??? what are you going to gain? is there an true upside? who are you going to "beat"... and do you get paid for that?
where can you use quicker that 3.0 seconds to 60 mph... or higher big end than 185 ish?
if you really want something quicker for some reason... shouldnt you just buy a real race car for 1/2 the money... and not ruin a beautiful corvette?
just askin....
can this much work , money, effort, unreliabilty, warranty voiding and all the rest possibly be worth it??? what are you going to gain? is there an true upside? who are you going to "beat"... and do you get paid for that?
where can you use quicker that 3.0 seconds to 60 mph... or higher big end than 185 ish?
if you really want something quicker for some reason... shouldnt you just buy a real race car for 1/2 the money... and not ruin a beautiful corvette?
just askin....
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02-03-2021, 10:47 AM
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I agree 1000 percent!!!
can this much work , money, effort, unreliabilty, warranty voiding and all the rest possibly be worth it??? what are you going to gain? is there an true upside? who are you going to "beat"... and do you get paid for that?
where can you use quicker that 3.0 seconds to 60 mph... or higher big end than 185 ish?
if you really want something quicker for some reason... shouldnt you just buy a real race car for 1/2 the money... and not ruin a beautiful corvette?
just askin....
can this much work , money, effort, unreliabilty, warranty voiding and all the rest possibly be worth it??? what are you going to gain? is there an true upside? who are you going to "beat"... and do you get paid for that?
where can you use quicker that 3.0 seconds to 60 mph... or higher big end than 185 ish?
if you really want something quicker for some reason... shouldnt you just buy a real race car for 1/2 the money... and not ruin a beautiful corvette?
just askin....
02-03-2021, 11:52 AM
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Would you like to share your background on modified cars or the fastest car you've owned? I ask because someone that has modified cars would realize you can use that extra power everywhere, every time you drive. It's not just about having a slightly faster 0-60, bragging about a quicker quarter mile, or being able to raise your top speed.
The direct answer to your question is I do not have personal experience with modifying toys… Whether they be offshore boats dirt bikes snowmobiles or road cars
my experience with all of those toys goes back over four decades ... and of course many friends with all of those same toys along the way
i’ve had a string of Corvettes and Porsches and Acura NSX and Mercedes AMG etc. drove isn early Z 28 in high school
of course I have to take issue with you when you say that you can use faster than 0 to 60 and more power than it takes you to get to 185 miles an hour every time you drive
I would suggest. That you can rarely if ever use it .
modifying machinery… And heaven knows I’ve seen tons of it over the years in every recreational discipline you can imagine… Always ends spectacularly bad and expensive !!!
everybody thinks they know better than the engineers who designed the machinery in the first place that is often not the case
ridiculous sums of money and time are spent to get an increase in performance that is often so minor it can only be registered by an accurate instrument rather than seat of the pants .
so I will go back to my original statement ...
if you can’t use the power and speed and you can’t figure out a way to get paid to modify your piece of machinery… What in the world is the point ?
you can barely feel it and it generally is not legal or prudent to use it
it’s generally tremendously expensive and almost always ends up in tears
it’s really very very simple math you take one look at what it cost and then dial in the fact that it cuts reliability tremendously and the overall value of the machine tremendously and… Unless you don’t work very hard for your money and have no respect for that money you can’t really justify modifying a vehicle that is already faster than you can reasonably use
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02-03-2021, 02:14 PM
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can’t believe I am answering this… But all the fun has gone out of discussing politics on the Internet and being retired I have plenty of time
The direct answer to your question is I do not have personal experience with modifying toys… Whether they be offshore boats dirt bikes snowmobiles or road cars
......
if you can’t use the power and speed and you can’t figure out a way to get paid to modify your piece of machinery… What in the world is the point ?
you can barely feel it and it generally is not legal or prudent to use it
it’s generally tremendously expensive and almost always ends up in tears
it’s really very very simple math you take one look at what it cost and then dial in the fact that it cuts reliability tremendously and the overall value of the machine tremendously and… Unless you don’t work very hard for your money and have no respect for that money you can’t really justify modifying a vehicle that is already faster than you can reasonably use
The direct answer to your question is I do not have personal experience with modifying toys… Whether they be offshore boats dirt bikes snowmobiles or road cars
......
if you can’t use the power and speed and you can’t figure out a way to get paid to modify your piece of machinery… What in the world is the point ?
you can barely feel it and it generally is not legal or prudent to use it
it’s generally tremendously expensive and almost always ends up in tears
it’s really very very simple math you take one look at what it cost and then dial in the fact that it cuts reliability tremendously and the overall value of the machine tremendously and… Unless you don’t work very hard for your money and have no respect for that money you can’t really justify modifying a vehicle that is already faster than you can reasonably use
People buy tings they like because they want to, even if they can't use the capabilities to their fullest.
People modify things because they want to, they get satisfaction from it. It is only a waste of money if they have a better use for the money or they can't support their household. You really cannot take it with you.
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02-03-2021, 02:17 PM
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can’t believe I am answering this… But all the fun has gone out of discussing politics on the Internet and being retired I have plenty of time
The direct answer to your question is I do not have personal experience with modifying toys… Whether they be offshore boats dirt bikes snowmobiles or road cars
my experience with all of those toys goes back over four decades ... and of course many friends with all of those same toys along the way
i’ve had a string of Corvettes and Porsches and Acura NSX and Mercedes AMG etc. drove isn early Z 28 in high school
of course I have to take issue with you when you say that you can use faster than 0 to 60 and more power than it takes you to get to 185 miles an hour every time you drive
I would suggest. That you can rarely if ever use it .
modifying machinery… And heaven knows I’ve seen tons of it over the years in every recreational discipline you can imagine… Always ends spectacularly bad and expensive !!!
everybody thinks they know better than the engineers who designed the machinery in the first place that is often not the case
ridiculous sums of money and time are spent to get an increase in performance that is often so minor it can only be registered by an accurate instrument rather than seat of the pants .
so I will go back to my original statement ...
if you can’t use the power and speed and you can’t figure out a way to get paid to modify your piece of machinery… What in the world is the point ?
you can barely feel it and it generally is not legal or prudent to use it
it’s generally tremendously expensive and almost always ends up in tears
it’s really very very simple math you take one look at what it cost and then dial in the fact that it cuts reliability tremendously and the overall value of the machine tremendously and… Unless you don’t work very hard for your money and have no respect for that money you can’t really justify modifying a vehicle that is already faster than you can reasonably use
The direct answer to your question is I do not have personal experience with modifying toys… Whether they be offshore boats dirt bikes snowmobiles or road cars
my experience with all of those toys goes back over four decades ... and of course many friends with all of those same toys along the way
i’ve had a string of Corvettes and Porsches and Acura NSX and Mercedes AMG etc. drove isn early Z 28 in high school
of course I have to take issue with you when you say that you can use faster than 0 to 60 and more power than it takes you to get to 185 miles an hour every time you drive
I would suggest. That you can rarely if ever use it .
modifying machinery… And heaven knows I’ve seen tons of it over the years in every recreational discipline you can imagine… Always ends spectacularly bad and expensive !!!
everybody thinks they know better than the engineers who designed the machinery in the first place that is often not the case
ridiculous sums of money and time are spent to get an increase in performance that is often so minor it can only be registered by an accurate instrument rather than seat of the pants .
so I will go back to my original statement ...
if you can’t use the power and speed and you can’t figure out a way to get paid to modify your piece of machinery… What in the world is the point ?
you can barely feel it and it generally is not legal or prudent to use it
it’s generally tremendously expensive and almost always ends up in tears
it’s really very very simple math you take one look at what it cost and then dial in the fact that it cuts reliability tremendously and the overall value of the machine tremendously and… Unless you don’t work very hard for your money and have no respect for that money you can’t really justify modifying a vehicle that is already faster than you can reasonably use
You happen to be of the mind to leave everything alone, as the manufacturer designs something.
That's great.....for you.
Many of us happen to be of the mind that we like to personalize things that we buy, particularly cars.
I've seen people put $1,000's into restoring old vehicles that really have no collectible value in the grand scheme of things, but they enjoyed doing it.
It meant something personal to them, for whatever reason.
What's the point?
The point is that there is no right solution that fits everyone and since we are all individuals with different desires, it is easy for many of us to justify our choices when it comes to modding vehicles.
As long as each of us is happy with our choices, that is what matters.
02-03-2021, 06:11 PM
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can’t believe I am answering this… But all the fun has gone out of discussing politics on the Internet and being retired I have plenty of time
The direct answer to your question is I do not have personal experience with modifying toys… Whether they be offshore boats dirt bikes snowmobiles or road cars
my experience with all of those toys goes back over four decades ... and of course many friends with all of those same toys along the way
i’ve had a string of Corvettes and Porsches and Acura NSX and Mercedes AMG etc. drove isn early Z 28 in high school
of course I have to take issue with you when you say that you can use faster than 0 to 60 and more power than it takes you to get to 185 miles an hour every time you drive
I would suggest. That you can rarely if ever use it .
modifying machinery… And heaven knows I’ve seen tons of it over the years in every recreational discipline you can imagine… Always ends spectacularly bad and expensive !!!
everybody thinks they know better than the engineers who designed the machinery in the first place that is often not the case
ridiculous sums of money and time are spent to get an increase in performance that is often so minor it can only be registered by an accurate instrument rather than seat of the pants .
so I will go back to my original statement ...
if you can’t use the power and speed and you can’t figure out a way to get paid to modify your piece of machinery… What in the world is the point ?
you can barely feel it and it generally is not legal or prudent to use it
it’s generally tremendously expensive and almost always ends up in tears
it’s really very very simple math you take one look at what it cost and then dial in the fact that it cuts reliability tremendously and the overall value of the machine tremendously and… Unless you don’t work very hard for your money and have no respect for that money you can’t really justify modifying a vehicle that is already faster than you can reasonably use
The direct answer to your question is I do not have personal experience with modifying toys… Whether they be offshore boats dirt bikes snowmobiles or road cars
my experience with all of those toys goes back over four decades ... and of course many friends with all of those same toys along the way
i’ve had a string of Corvettes and Porsches and Acura NSX and Mercedes AMG etc. drove isn early Z 28 in high school
of course I have to take issue with you when you say that you can use faster than 0 to 60 and more power than it takes you to get to 185 miles an hour every time you drive
I would suggest. That you can rarely if ever use it .
modifying machinery… And heaven knows I’ve seen tons of it over the years in every recreational discipline you can imagine… Always ends spectacularly bad and expensive !!!
everybody thinks they know better than the engineers who designed the machinery in the first place that is often not the case
ridiculous sums of money and time are spent to get an increase in performance that is often so minor it can only be registered by an accurate instrument rather than seat of the pants .
so I will go back to my original statement ...
if you can’t use the power and speed and you can’t figure out a way to get paid to modify your piece of machinery… What in the world is the point ?
you can barely feel it and it generally is not legal or prudent to use it
it’s generally tremendously expensive and almost always ends up in tears
it’s really very very simple math you take one look at what it cost and then dial in the fact that it cuts reliability tremendously and the overall value of the machine tremendously and… Unless you don’t work very hard for your money and have no respect for that money you can’t really justify modifying a vehicle that is already faster than you can reasonably use
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02-05-2021, 09:17 AM
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Hey here is my view on all this discussion about moddin or not moddin and it is very simple!
If it makes you happy then go for it.
PERIOD END OF STORY.
If it makes you happy then go for it.
PERIOD END OF STORY.
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02-06-2021, 11:47 AM
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I agree 1000 percent!!!
can this much work , money, effort, unreliabilty, warranty voiding and all the rest possibly be worth it??? what are you going to gain? is there an true upside? who are you going to "beat"... and do you get paid for that?
where can you use quicker that 3.0 seconds to 60 mph... or higher big end than 185 ish?
if you really want something quicker for some reason... shouldnt you just buy a real race car for 1/2 the money... and not ruin a beautiful corvette?
just askin....
can this much work , money, effort, unreliabilty, warranty voiding and all the rest possibly be worth it??? what are you going to gain? is there an true upside? who are you going to "beat"... and do you get paid for that?
where can you use quicker that 3.0 seconds to 60 mph... or higher big end than 185 ish?
if you really want something quicker for some reason... shouldnt you just buy a real race car for 1/2 the money... and not ruin a beautiful corvette?
just askin....
0-60 people lol
When someone quotes those times u know they have no idea what they are talking about. Buy a Camry and **** off.
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02-08-2021, 12:35 PM
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02-08-2021, 03:53 PM
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I like where he wrote a novella to essentially state he had absolutely no experience with modified cars, outside of magazine 0-60s times and Fast and Furious movies, but had to tell everyone how they've ruined reliability and it's not worth it.
02-08-2021, 05:37 PM
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My personal Vette is a 19 Z06, I just broke 14k on a ride home from Miami, in a snowstorm from NC on to NJ. It has seen the pacific ocean, Washington St, Oregon, Montana, Idaho, N.D. S.D. and Wyoming, tons of National parks, then onto to Maine, VT NH RI, NY Yet my "ruined" 9-second car that lifts the tires on the drag strip and pulls away from a stock ZR1 on the road course is simply unreliable I tell you!!!
Display333, be honest, did this go the way you thought it would?
Display333, be honest, did this go the way you thought it would?
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02-08-2021, 06:11 PM
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My personal Vette is a 19 Z06, I just broke 14k on a ride home from Miami, in a snowstorm from NC on to NJ. It has seen the pacific ocean, Washington St, Oregon, Montana, Idaho, N.D. S.D. and Wyoming, tons of National parks, then onto to Maine, VT NH RI, NY Yet my "ruined" 9-second car that lifts the tires on the drag strip and pulls away from a stock ZR1 on the road course is simply unreliable I tell you!!!
Display333, be honest, did this go the way you thought it would?
Display333, be honest, did this go the way you thought it would?
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02-16-2021, 01:10 PM
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I agree 1000 percent!!!
can this much work , money, effort, unreliabilty, warranty voiding and all the rest possibly be worth it??? what are you going to gain? is there an true upside? who are you going to "beat"... and do you get paid for that?
where can you use quicker that 3.0 seconds to 60 mph... or higher big end than 185 ish?
if you really want something quicker for some reason... shouldnt you just buy a real race car for 1/2 the money... and not ruin a beautiful corvette?
just askin....
can this much work , money, effort, unreliabilty, warranty voiding and all the rest possibly be worth it??? what are you going to gain? is there an true upside? who are you going to "beat"... and do you get paid for that?
where can you use quicker that 3.0 seconds to 60 mph... or higher big end than 185 ish?
if you really want something quicker for some reason... shouldnt you just buy a real race car for 1/2 the money... and not ruin a beautiful corvette?
just askin....
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03-31-2021, 02:36 PM
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Nice. Can't wait to see these cars hit 750 + wheel after tuning.