Has anyone went from Z06 to Eray?
#1
Drifting
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Has anyone went from Z06 to Eray?
I was curious if anyone has traded from the Z06 to the Eray and why? Or has anyone that doesn't have a C8 now ordered the Eray instead of the Z06 and why?
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05-03-2024, 12:46 PM
Drifting
We did. SR to Z to E. I used to track cars, but don't anymore. Our C8s are mostly vacation cruisers. The HP/TQ characteristics of the Z didn't fit our driving style like the E does. (up to 5K rpm the SR has more TQ and HP than the Z) It was hard to give up the sound of that screaming FPC, but we have no regrets. We still have the HTC, widebody, CCBs, etc. along with instant acceleration from street rpm. The suspension is between a Z51 and a Z in terms of feel. We can always go back to a Z if we choose.
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I haven't seen anyone on here that has said they did. There have been 5 different ones now in the FB C8 groups I'm in that have both cars and prefer the eray for driving. I honestly haven't seen one that said they prefer the Z over the eray that actually have both. None of them were referencing any track duty though. That still I'm sure definitely goes to the Z and always will.
#3
Drifting
We did. SR to Z to E. I used to track cars, but don't anymore. Our C8s are mostly vacation cruisers. The HP/TQ characteristics of the Z didn't fit our driving style like the E does. (up to 5K rpm the SR has more TQ and HP than the Z) It was hard to give up the sound of that screaming FPC, but we have no regrets. We still have the HTC, widebody, CCBs, etc. along with instant acceleration from street rpm. The suspension is between a Z51 and a Z in terms of feel. We can always go back to a Z if we choose.
#4
Texas Ranger has already stated his views on the ER > Z.
I do not have a C8 and had every intent to go directly to ER. TBD on if that will still be the plan (GM is killing me with these 2025 changes).
I do not have a C8 and had every intent to go directly to ER. TBD on if that will still be the plan (GM is killing me with these 2025 changes).
#6
It’s hard to beat the eRay instantaneous conversion of intent to acceleration at any rpm. No double downshift or waiting for the fpc to rage.
On the track…Z is king!
On the track…Z is king!
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Drifting
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I must be in the minority. I find the whine of power adders (superchargers, turbos, ER hybrid drive) to be so much sexier than any N/A scream at redline--including an FPC.
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#11
Burning Brakes
I have no real desire for a C8, But I'd look real hard at that E.
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If you want the exotic sounds and track king, get the Z....if you want the sounds of a stingray with electric hum of motors up front, get the E. I wanted an E and could have gotten one at MSRP, but found a Z as I really wanted that sound and looks sooner than waiting around FOREVER for an E....
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If you want the exotic sounds and track king, get the Z....if you want the sounds of a stingray with electric hum of motors up front, get the E. I wanted an E and could have gotten one at MSRP, but found a Z as I really wanted that sound and looks sooner than waiting around FOREVER for an E....
If i still wanted to experience the raw GM pushrod sound, i'd hop in my C7Z.
But i get it if people only want 1 vette, with slight resemblance to corvettes of the past. It's just an odd variant lol.
The twin turbo hybrid AWD C8 coming should solve everyones problems.
#15
Instructor
I guess if you really just want sound get a Z but I was tired of having hp and not really getting to use it till 50mph. In Wisconsin with temps and roads there isn’t much for traction. My c7z at stock power was always spinning. Can’t beat that awd. Had the z invoice in my hand but decided to wait for the eray. 45f here this morning. Looks? There the same wide body car just exhaust is routed different and you can buy the kit for the Eray to have center dump like Z if that’s important.
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#16
Racer
My Z06 to Eray transition
Well I don't own a C8Z but a good friend let me drive his 2024 aggressively after it was properly broken in on several occasions. Yes the sound is unreal at high revs as is the power. Not so much at revs under 5000. I was lucky enough to snag a 24 Eray 2LZ from a Texas dealer who had a buyer back out after having waited 6 months AFTER placing his order. Add to that the year he waited for the dealer to even get an allocation. I traded my 2021 C8 Z51 for the Eray (yes I did pay some ADM but got good value on my Z51). This all happened pretty suddenly. I went on my local dealer's Z list nearly 3 years ago and was up to number two on their list when the Eray became available. I decided to bail on the Z for several reasons. I've tracked a lot having SCCA Regional/National experience in sedans and formula cars as well as being an instructor for NASA for about 4 years. Reason one-my local favorite track Heartland Park closed down, so my track days will be greatly reduced. Reason two-my friend's 2024 Z had to have the engine replaced at 1700 miles due to the ticking sound that has been discussed elsewhere. That is a pretty rare situation I realize but it did somewhat cool my Z interest. Reason three-that fabulous sound at high revs also makes for a very noisy vehicle. I always start my Corvettes in my garage with the doors closed to keep peace in the neighborhood and even with doors closed the Z has a pretty nasty rip on start up. Eray just checked all my boxes. 800 miles on my new Eray and loving it.
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As someone who owns a Z06, for most people the Eray is probably the better choice. The Z06 is an "experience" car that needs a different style of driving than a traditional Corvette. It's similar to the C4 ZR-1 in that it loves to rev, and to really enjoy it, you need to keep it at higher revs all the time (I typically cruise at 4000rpm on surface streets). To really get the most enjoyment out of it, you're going to want to drive it in manual mode all the time (or at the very least, Track mode for shifting) and hooning on it constantly. It is nowhere near as good a "cruiser" as even a base C8 Stingray as it's going to need multiple (often 3-4) downshifts if you're cruising around at <2000rpm to get to where it has power, whereas the Stingray/Eray have a lot more low end torque under 3500rpm, and a shorter power band so it doesn't need nearly as many shifts (if any) to feel good power (yes, I know all about the torque multiplication of the steeper gearing, but drive an LT2 and LT6 back to back in manual mode and you will immediately tell the difference). The Z06 is also very stiff, even the "base" Z06 in Tour is way stiffer than Stingray Z51 or ERay, it's honestly probably right at the limit of what many people will consider acceptable for a street car. The benefits of the Z06 are it's incredible sound and amazing rev range, which can make up for the downsides if you love that type of experience. If you've always wanted a Ferrari or Lamborghini, and have owned high-revving engines before, then the Z06 may be the right choice. If all you've ever owned is traditional GM V8s and enjoy the low-end grunt associated with them, then the Z06 is probably not the right answer and the ERay will be a much better choice.
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#18
Drifting
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As someone who owns a Z06, for most people the Eray is probably the better choice. The Z06 is an "experience" car that needs a different style of driving than a traditional Corvette. It's similar to the C4 ZR-1 in that it loves to rev, and to really enjoy it, you need to keep it at higher revs all the time (I typically cruise at 4000rpm on surface streets). To really get the most enjoyment out of it, you're going to want to drive it in manual mode all the time (or at the very least, Track mode for shifting) and hooning on it constantly. It is nowhere near as good a "cruiser" as even a base C8 Stingray as it's going to need multiple (often 3-4) downshifts if you're cruising around at <2000rpm to get to where it has power, whereas the Stingray/Eray have a lot more low end torque under 3500rpm, and a shorter power band so it doesn't need nearly as many shifts (if any) to feel good power (yes, I know all about the torque multiplication of the steeper gearing, but drive an LT2 and LT6 back to back in manual mode and you will immediately tell the difference). The Z06 is also very stiff, even the "base" Z06 in Tour is way stiffer than Stingray Z51 or ERay, it's honestly probably right at the limit of what many people will consider acceptable for a street car. The benefits of the Z06 are it's incredible sound and amazing rev range, which can make up for the downsides if you love that type of experience. If you've always wanted a Ferrari or Lamborghini, and have owned high-revving engines before, then the Z06 may be the right choice. If all you've ever owned is traditional GM V8s and enjoy the low-end grunt associated with them, then the Z06 is probably not the right answer and the ERay will be a much better choice.
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#19
Drifting
As someone who owns a Z06, for most people the Eray is probably the better choice. The Z06 is an "experience" car that needs a different style of driving than a traditional Corvette. It's similar to the C4 ZR-1 in that it loves to rev, and to really enjoy it, you need to keep it at higher revs all the time (I typically cruise at 4000rpm on surface streets). To really get the most enjoyment out of it, you're going to want to drive it in manual mode all the time (or at the very least, Track mode for shifting) and hooning on it constantly. It is nowhere near as good a "cruiser" as even a base C8 Stingray as it's going to need multiple (often 3-4) downshifts if you're cruising around at <2000rpm to get to where it has power, whereas the Stingray/Eray have a lot more low end torque under 3500rpm, and a shorter power band so it doesn't need nearly as many shifts (if any) to feel good power (yes, I know all about the torque multiplication of the steeper gearing, but drive an LT2 and LT6 back to back in manual mode and you will immediately tell the difference). The Z06 is also very stiff, even the "base" Z06 in Tour is way stiffer than Stingray Z51 or ERay, it's honestly probably right at the limit of what many people will consider acceptable for a street car. The benefits of the Z06 are it's incredible sound and amazing rev range, which can make up for the downsides if you love that type of experience. If you've always wanted a Ferrari or Lamborghini, and have owned high-revving engines before, then the Z06 may be the right choice. If all you've ever owned is traditional GM V8s and enjoy the low-end grunt associated with them, then the Z06 is probably not the right answer and the ERay will be a much better choice.
#20
Racer
Yep EvanZR1 hit the nail on the head. The Z06 is a great machine. Just a different driving experience. If I was to get back into tracking more I would want one!