diitto

Do any of you have any sort of idea as to whether a person (me) might be able to actually order, buy and receive an E-ray in 2024??? Our dealership here locally has taken names just to put on an "interest list" (no commitment) while they try to figure out what the availability of the 2024 E-ray might be... Haven't asked them lately though I will soon... But thought I'd drop in here too and just ask... Ordering and buying my 2012 Grand Sport was easy back in 2012... Buying a new Z06 in 2023 has been on the verge of not possible (I wasn't interested but just watched)... Where will E-ray fall within that??? Any ideas??? thanks much...

IrishSpuds

My uneducated guess in this is that most if not all 2024’s will be spoken for by the end of 2023. The situation you envision is possibly likely in 2025 as long as there are no more global / political events that screw up the world. There are waiting lists at most dealers right now and with a strike likely to delay production, pressure is on the 2024 models. My 8c (inflation adjusted).

hdrider1

My suggestion is you get on MacMulkins list right away and hope for a 2025. Could be very tough getting a 2024 at this point in time, but not impossible. Also depends on if you will be willing to pay an ADM.

Jridden

Keyword: ADM

diitto

So I looked up production numbers by years going all the way back to 1953... 1979 was the year where they made the most cars in history, with 53,807 being produced... The year of my Grand Sport, 2012, they built a total (base, grand sport, zo6 and zr1) of 11,647... Last year, 2022, they built a total of 34,510 or three times as many cars as they built in 2012... The dealership that ordered my 2012 for me always had at least 30 corvettes in stock and when I asked to order one, they had an upcoming allocation for three and they pulled one of those aside and placed my order at that time... But now, it's a rarity to see even a single corvette, even a C8 SR, in stock anywhere... I get the rarity of Zo6's and the soon to be E-ray (at least to start) but what is it with C8 SR??? Just a huge demand is all it can be right??? And yes, I read yesterday about the possible strike by UAW... That will add so much insult to cary buying injury... So why do folks think the market for C8 SR is still apparently off the charts??? thanks...

Fishfryer527

I’m guessing that the ERAY won’t be the big hit people expect, but with lower production numbers there will be a wait. The issue with the ERAY is the same as with the base car, it doesn’t sound awesome. It sounds ok, but the rest of the car deserves a better sound. I’d rather GM just make much more LT6s and not waste the production capacity on the ERAY.

diitto

Good point on sound... My 2012 Grand Sport has the NPP (code) dual mode exhaust and I normally leave it in the full 4 pipes (louder) mode... Any good places to go listen to audios of the new E-Ray versus say my older dual mode ("mild to wild" it was the optional control that I own)... I like the sound of my 2012 and wouldn't want to lose all that... Was actually curious whether the gas engine on the E-ray has any exhaust mode control??? And I've had the same wonderment about how many folks will (or won't) want an E-ray... Most of the folks in my local Corvette club seem unimpressed... thanks for any help on how to compare sounds....

/Bear/

Classic.

I think once people learn about the ERay, more will warm up to it. What's not to like about the sure-footedness of AWD and being the quickest production Corvette ever?!

The ERay is making history!

GOLD72

The E-Ray comes standard with the NPP performance exhaust.

IrishSpuds

Do you know if there is an equivalent of the Mild to Wild switch? I had it in my C6 and enjoyed using, although some folks just pulled the fuse. I liked the low rev rumble and gurgle. I read where they simply don’t work on the C8 NPP yet RPI still sell them allegedly knowing they don’t work. Supposedly setting MyMode to aggressive helps with the sound.

GOLD72

My 2019 Z06, just like my 06 Z06 and 11 ZR1, came standard with the NPP performance exhaust. The big difference for me is that the C7 version keeps the exhaust butterflies open full time when you select the Sport suspension mode (probably track mode as well). So I am guessing the C8 version will be even more selectable if you what the full exhaust sound full time.

JerriVette

I think an Eray with a borla attack exhaust would be a awesome modification.

since the z06 is not really available for years I think the even quicker Eray with a borla attack exhaust will fit the bill.

im hopeful bowling green can produce 20,000 erays a year and as the economy goes into the dumper with high interest rates I think the six figure price tag will make these corvettes offer greater available.

just a guess though.

I think 2025 model year is more likely though.

diitto

I agree... Might be a big hit once people see it get 0-60 in 2.5 and 0-100 in 8... But let's keep it a secret and maybe we will actually be able to buy one some day!!!! 😁

dohabandit

Sheesh, just bolt on some straight pipes and cat delete like the "Goblin" C8 dude did in CA!!!
He took down the videos from YouTube, wonder why??? maybe because it had him doing twice the speed limit and not blurred out, and also insanely loud.
Maybe add some spark plugs and gas injectors at the exhaust tips??? POP! POP! BANG! BANG!

There are some people that care more about "performance / reliability" than sound. In general, a pushrod engine is more durable than a DOHC engine. A pushrod motor is also generally smaller, lighter weight, and creates more torque for its weight.
They have less moving parts and follow the KISS principle (unless some EPA ******* starts introducing requirements that make AFM necessary).

I am glad I am not "first" on the ERay wait list, and also not last.
Time will tell if this car lives up to the hype.

PCMIII

What's not to like is the 6 figure base price when the Z06 is only marginally more money. Given a choice between a Z06 and Eray, most folks are going for the Z06.

OTOH, GM/Chevy/Corvette wants to transition buyers to the full EV that they are developing and Eray is the bridge to the EV. So the sales pitch for Eray is on and production of the Eray will be prioritized over Z06 and SR. Customers for Z06 will be pushed to Eray.

/Bear/

That may be true.

For most people, considering what they actually do with their C8, the ERay is a much better car for almost everybody than the Z06.

PCMIII

That may be true too.

But for most buyers of 6 figure cars, the decision is emotional, not practical. Getting a hand built FPC that can rev to 8600 rpm and sound awesome doing it is the emotional choice.

mavio

The sound will be the same as the C8. Yes there are controls for the sound in the different modes. There will be an option for "stealth" mode so no sound just he electric motors on the front wheels. But the distance for this will be somewhat limited as it is the ICE that charges the battery for the electric motors. It is a hybrid.

diitto

The sales manager at my (small) local Chevy dealer has created an interest list for the E-ray. Said there are so, so many unhappy people on the long waiting list, with money put down, for a Z06, that they are, at least at this local dealer, not gonna make that same mistake with the E-ray... He asked me if I wanted to be on an interest list with no commitment, no money yet, just a "let's see when or even if we will be able to get any E-rays" and if so, then we will start taking REAL interest... I said yes, so I'm on that list, whatever that might mean??? I also asked him if I told him I'd like to get on a list for a Z06, how long might that wait be??? His answer was, an eternity... Said he didn't think they'd be able to ever service all those waiting today and will likely be building something else (full EV??) before too much longer...

sshallen

I made a MacMulkin E-Ray deposit the day I drove my C8 HTC home from NCM.

Z06? No interest. A car where I can use 40% of its capacity on the street to replace one where I can use 50% of its capacity on the street, for a lot more money? No thanks.

But for a mild premium, a car with wide body looks, stealth, AWD, real improvements to street performance, yet totally docile for the 95% of the time I drive it? Sign me up.

If I'm 5% slower on a track day, and that causes a pro scout in the stands to pass me by... my loss.

I predict the E-Ray will slay.