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Old 03-04-2024, 04:37 PM
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It has taken quite a while to finalize the purchase of my ZR1 (#1775). I put down a deposit just before Thanksgiving and today she is sitting in my garage for the first time. It took a while to get the clean title as the previous owner signed the title and never drove or registered the car. When I purchased it he didn't want to pay the taxes so he set up an LLC. in Montana and then registered it there. After the title came back, I had it trailered to the get PPF and ceramic coat. They trailered it to me today. The wait wasn't really a big deal because I was able to park my DD in the garage and we still have another month and a half of winter left. The only issue is that the battery went dead when the previous owner's battery tender came loose in the 12 volt outlet and the car lost all of the emissions cycles. I'll have to look into how to get the cycles ready in the shortest time. I know there are some old threads about it but any suggestions are appreciated. I just want to sit in the garage with a beer and look at it. Here are a couple of pictures.





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Congrats! Twin of mine, love your taste.

PA requires 3 'cold starts' before it can pass the emission test. NY may be similar. Sounds like government overreach, but I digress.

To count a cold start, the engine and IAT must match (or be very close) to ambient air temperature and brought up to operating temperature. So, a long, likely an overnight, cool down must be achieved for the next startup to count as a 'cold start'. This info is without using a scanner, so some tuner may chime in with more precise, specific details.

You could drive the car for weeks and not meet the 3 cold start requirement if the car is not allowed to cool down between starts. Just let it cool down overnight, drive it the next day and park it for overnight again. After 3 days it should be ready for emission test.

I hope this helps.
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Thank you for the advice. Not sure if it is the same in NY. I was told there are seven emission conditions that must be met. A OBDII scanner is required to see which conditions have been met. I hope it is as simple as 3 cold starts.
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Beautiful ZR1!!!

If you have an android device you can use the Torque app and an OBDII reader like Scantool.net’s OBDLink series of adapters to see how your ECU emissions readiness are moving along during your drives.



Cool down cycles are important as the other poster stated.

From what I read there are some shortcuts to getting all systems ready quickly, but you would have to be somewhere without any traffic at all or better yet on a dyno to accomplish.

Colorado allows for one incomplete emission system in order to pass. Check with your state / county to see what they require.

I put a number of miles on my C7 Z06 due to loss of battery power right before going to get emissions last year after buying my car from out of state. IIRC, it took about 9 days of morning driving and overnight cool downs to accomplish.

https://torque-bhp.com/software/torq...obd2-adapters/

https://www.s197forum.com/threads/ho...ue-app.138589/
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Thank you. that was very helpful. i love this forum.
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I hope the LLC and tax scam by the previous owner doesn't come back to bite you.
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I hope the LLC and tax scam by the previous owner doesn't come back to bite you.
The Montana LLC is used a lot especially for motorhomes.

If there is an issue it would affect the previous owner as they are responsible, not the current owner.
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You need to change all of your red RD floor tiles to Orange now. Beautiful ZR1, best of luck with your new ride.
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I know. I may look into it. It depends on the cost.
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Originally Posted by rob62
I hope the LLC and tax scam by the previous owner doesn't come back to bite you.
the real scam is the state govt's that charge almost $1000 annually for plates on a corvette. ask me how i know.
more power to someone finding a way around that bs
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Originally Posted by George_L
I know. I may look into it. It depends on the cost.
$3.75 to $4/square ft. depending on if you can get a discount and then the installation, which is just your time.
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Originally Posted by Shokwav
the real scam is the state govt's that charge almost $1000 annually for plates on a corvette. ask me how i know.
more power to someone finding a way around that bs
I wish! Add that to skyrocketing insurance-Michigan cost to drive is crazy.

OP-congrats on the ZR-enjoy
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If the IM monitors are not set, the quickest way to force them to set is do the "drive cycle" listed in GM service information.

Soon as I get to work in the morning, I'll post it the drive cycle.

Question...here in the People's Demokratik Republik of Kalifornia, our "Smog Check" allows the evap monitor to not be set and still pass. Is New York the same way?
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I'm not sure. I was told all of the cycles need to pass. I have a friend with an inspection station, I'll have to ask.
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Looks like you can have one emission system / monitor not ready in New York for MY 2001+. Most likely Evap System as it takes the longest to set.

From https://dmv.ny.gov/brochure/what-do-...cars-not-ready


"How Many Monitors Have to be Ready?

The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) guidelines allow up to two monitors to be in a "not ready" state for model year 1996 through 2000 vehicles and one monitor "not ready" for 2001 or newer model year vehicles."
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Welcome to a very small club.
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Originally Posted by westsdad
Looks like you can have one emission system / monitor not ready in New York for MY 2001+. Most likely Evap System as it takes the longest to set.

From https://dmv.ny.gov/brochure/what-do-...cars-not-ready


"How Many Monitors Have to be Ready?

The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) guidelines allow up to two monitors to be in a "not ready" state for model year 1996 through 2000 vehicles and one monitor "not ready" for 2001 or newer model year vehicles."
Thank you for the info. I'll still need to wait a while for the weather to break and the roads to be clear of salt.

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Welcome to a very small club.
Thank you. I'm thrilled to a part of the club.
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Originally Posted by George_L
I'm not sure. I was told all of the cycles need to pass. I have a friend with an inspection station, I'll have to ask.
Good idea because NY may be different than CA
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Originally Posted by westsdad
Looks like you can have one emission system / monitor not ready in New York for MY 2001+. Most likely Evap System as it takes the longest to set.

From https://dmv.ny.gov/brochure/what-do-...cars-not-ready


"How Many Monitors Have to be Ready?

The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) guidelines allow up to two monitors to be in a "not ready" state for model year 1996 through 2000 vehicles and one monitor "not ready" for 2001 or newer model year vehicles."
That's Federal.

The OP is talking about the emissions test requried in NY. The states with stringent requirements, such as CA, NY and MD, may require all IM monitors set or they may allow the evap monitor to not be set.


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