C7 ZR1 Limited Production Hype and BS.....RANT.
03-06-2018, 07:19 PM
#81
I agree and guys waiting on c8 will most likely settle for car with the lower hp
We are told 3 engine choices
You know they all three won't be available at first
You want big Motor like zr1 your 2 years out
We are told 3 engine choices
You know they all three won't be available at first
You want big Motor like zr1 your 2 years out
03-06-2018, 07:46 PM
#82
Drifting
Everyone has different levels of disposable income. Just because you wouldn't do it in your current circumstances doesn't mean anything to someone in a higher tax bracket with higher disposable income.
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03-06-2018, 08:10 PM
#83
Instructor
This thread seems like a tug of war between the Bulls and the Bears. The Bulls feel the ZR1 market is going to stay up and the bears are speculating its defiantly going to drop....The person with the crystal ball will probably be right.
03-06-2018, 08:29 PM
#84
Le Mans Master
The predominate word is that the C7 is done this model year and the ZR1's the parade!
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03-07-2018, 08:27 AM
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The Z06 and ZR1 are two different cars. Happens with each model someone has to say you have the same.............At least there will not be a zillion ZR1s like there are Z06s now.
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03-07-2018, 08:28 AM
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Naaaaaah I am hallucinating all that is C8
03-07-2018, 08:38 AM
#87
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Most people buying these cars can afford to put a bit of their disposable income into something that they realize is NOT an investment. Anyone taking all of their disposable income and sinking into this car thinking they're getting some or all of that back is being pretty foolish. This is something we're buying because we want to drive it and enjoy it. Honestly, I'm not that concerned about what the value of the car does when the C8 comes out.
Also, as far as waiting for the C8, I think that's another area where to each their own. The C7 showed up in base for in 2014 and it was the following year before the Z06 came out. It has taken 4 years for the highest performance version to arrive. So, it's probably going to be 2020 before the Z06 equivalent version shows up if GM follows their typical introduction process (though it could be different with the ME). So I have two years to enjoy my ZR1 before anything with similar power will likely show up in the ME.
However, even if the ME highest performance variant debuts on day 1 next year, I've still been enjoying my ZR1 while others are waiting. I can decide then what I'll do. To each his own...
Also, as far as waiting for the C8, I think that's another area where to each their own. The C7 showed up in base for in 2014 and it was the following year before the Z06 came out. It has taken 4 years for the highest performance version to arrive. So, it's probably going to be 2020 before the Z06 equivalent version shows up if GM follows their typical introduction process (though it could be different with the ME). So I have two years to enjoy my ZR1 before anything with similar power will likely show up in the ME.
However, even if the ME highest performance variant debuts on day 1 next year, I've still been enjoying my ZR1 while others are waiting. I can decide then what I'll do. To each his own...
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03-07-2018, 09:48 AM
#88
Yeah me to. I'd much rather have basically the same car at $80K. I also like to attend Vette gatherings and whisper in the ears of ZR1 onlookers how I'd hate to be the owner of it at sticker. This makes me popular and people like me.
03-07-2018, 11:54 PM
#89
Le Mans Master
Thinking 'All'!??? ;)
https://youtu.be/o22F6vpCaiU
'All' Really encompasses both! Corvette Racing has less technically advanced chassis controls. If an exceptionally performing ZR1, which is a better street car platform, knocks it out of the park they can both make sense at least for a while, as some have said!
Parsed!?
1. This C7 ZR1 'Masterpiece'
2. A C7 ZO6 DOHC w/ZR1 type Aero, Big Brain PTM, and stuff
3. A C7 OHV Z51
4. A C7 OHV
5. A C8 OHV Z51 M7 or A10
6. A C8R
Done!
'All' Really encompasses both! Corvette Racing has less technically advanced chassis controls. If an exceptionally performing ZR1, which is a better street car platform, knocks it out of the park they can both make sense at least for a while, as some have said!
Parsed!?
1. This C7 ZR1 'Masterpiece'
2. A C7 ZO6 DOHC w/ZR1 type Aero, Big Brain PTM, and stuff
3. A C7 OHV Z51
4. A C7 OHV
5. A C8 OHV Z51 M7 or A10
6. A C8R
Done!
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03-08-2018, 04:56 AM
#90
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https://youtu.be/o22F6vpCaiU
'All' Really encompasses both! Corvette Racing has less technically advanced chassis controls. If an exceptionally performing ZR1, which is a better street car platform, knocks it out of the park they can both make sense at least for a while, as some have said!
Parsed!
1. This C7 ZR1 Masterpiece
2. A C7 ZO6 DOHC w/ZR1 type Aero and Big Brain PTM
3. A C7 OHV Z51
4. A C7 OHV
5. A C8 OHV Z51 M7 or A10
6. A C8R
Done!
'All' Really encompasses both! Corvette Racing has less technically advanced chassis controls. If an exceptionally performing ZR1, which is a better street car platform, knocks it out of the park they can both make sense at least for a while, as some have said!
Parsed!
1. This C7 ZR1 Masterpiece
2. A C7 ZO6 DOHC w/ZR1 type Aero and Big Brain PTM
3. A C7 OHV Z51
4. A C7 OHV
5. A C8 OHV Z51 M7 or A10
6. A C8R
Done!
03-08-2018, 06:31 AM
#91
Le Mans Master
Thanks! ;)
One of first things you learn with Engineering drawings and information is that a two year old must be able to understand it!
Now that Tadge is taking responsibility for the incomplete ZO6 program I can surmise the conceptual ramifications of that in totality at this juncture as a 'Corvette Nut'!
The Corvette program Drama being on track now warrants either the holding off of the C8, or the overlapping, as above!
This is all in direct response to some of the most recent posts by others just before it!
Now that Tadge is taking responsibility for the incomplete ZO6 program I can surmise the conceptual ramifications of that in totality at this juncture as a 'Corvette Nut'!
The Corvette program Drama being on track now warrants either the holding off of the C8, or the overlapping, as above!
This is all in direct response to some of the most recent posts by others just before it!
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03-08-2018, 08:59 AM
#92
Scraping the splitter.
One of first things you learn with Engineering drawings and information is that a two year old must be able to understand it!
Now that Tadge is taking responsibility for the incomplete ZO6 program I can surmise the conceptual ramifications of that in totality at this juncture as a 'Corvette Nut'!
The Corvette program Drama being on track now warrants either the holding off of the C8, or the overlapping, as above!
This is all in direct response to some of the most recent posts by others just before it!
Now that Tadge is taking responsibility for the incomplete ZO6 program I can surmise the conceptual ramifications of that in totality at this juncture as a 'Corvette Nut'!
The Corvette program Drama being on track now warrants either the holding off of the C8, or the overlapping, as above!
This is all in direct response to some of the most recent posts by others just before it!
S.
03-08-2018, 09:18 AM
#93
Le Mans Master
Guess you're FBI! ;)
You clearly have had no concept 'Of' and common sense 'With' cars!
I say my stuff is romantic and perfect! And that makes me ostensibly equal here.
C6 ZR1
Timely too! Touch my concepts and lose!
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/03/07/porsche-911-gt3-rs-2018-geneva-motor-show/
I say my stuff is romantic and perfect! And that makes me ostensibly equal here.
C6 ZR1
- 2005 SC Vette going after the Enzo
- 2010 PTM seen at vendor
- 2011 track tires dealing with AWD Here..
Timely too! Touch my concepts and lose!
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/03/07/porsche-911-gt3-rs-2018-geneva-motor-show/
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03-09-2018, 11:05 AM
#94
Le Mans Master
I can't help but think with the automation that is coming to automobiles within all of our lifetimes, and furthermore even the wonderful Corvette moving to a midengine design in the very near future, if this C7ZR1 might be the very last of the front engine, rear-wheel drive, manual transmission, analog high-powered sports cars. And frankly it's the best one yet. From that perspective it could really be a classic when you understand in all likelihood no manufacturer will ever build a car of this design style that will outperform this one .
I have no doubt that there will be faster sports cars in the near-term, but they will be of a different design philosophy. Automatic transmissions, smaller higher revving engines, more computer controls, AWD, etc. For some of us that sort of isolated Driving Experience is not very appealing.
I think it would be a poor decision to buy a new ZR1 in an automatic transmission and then modify it. I certainly respect that a lot of people have a lot more money than I do, and don't care about the heavy depreciation.
I have no doubt that there will be faster sports cars in the near-term, but they will be of a different design philosophy. Automatic transmissions, smaller higher revving engines, more computer controls, AWD, etc. For some of us that sort of isolated Driving Experience is not very appealing.
I think it would be a poor decision to buy a new ZR1 in an automatic transmission and then modify it. I certainly respect that a lot of people have a lot more money than I do, and don't care about the heavy depreciation.
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