Boba Fett

Thats really all it is . The turbo S is silly fast and Id expect it to win against a Z. Fan of both cars. Mod the vette, itll win. Mod the 911, itll win. Its a silly back and forth/

Boba Fett

Makes total sense. Not going to make it to the track everyday. Its called having fun.

Track

Well, I think I'm seeing it a bit differently. First, the VW jumps the Vette on both starts. But, even before that, look at the concentration on the VW driver's face. It's obvious that he is in the optimum gear and riding his brakes to get the turbo spooled up. He is taking it dead serious and looking for a real race. Meanwhile, the Vette driver sounds and acts like a goofball who is out having fun...sound says he's not in optimum gear and doesn't punch it until he sees the VW jump. That puts him out of the power range, waiting for the tranny to downshift and catch.

As far as I am concerned these running starts leave a whole lot for interpretation. If you want a real race it has to be from start so everyone in set up in 1st...and our turbo friend has to play the spool-up game. If you put both these cars starting in auto like a normal cruise and then hammer down, the Vette's super charger is going to dig at least a second before the VW spools up and downshifts. The VW still may...may...win in that kind of race, but he'll be paying catch up for most of it.

I still think a standing start is the only way to to really judge performance. A rolling start has too many uncontrollable variables.

dar02081961

Yes and no.
You don't want to race any big power AWD car from a dig in your stock Z06.
You are traction limited and they are not. This is one of the main reasons for us going mid engine.

In early 2015 while in my stock M7 Z06 I ran into a new 911 turbo at a red light about 4 traffic lights before the road turned into an interstate.
Ran him twice from 0-to about 70. He quickly pulled about 2 cars on me each time.

However when we got to the interstate we ran twice from about 75-80 to 145-150ish.
I slowly pulled about 2 cars on him each time.

I share this to say there are many factors to a race between 2 cars.
You can win some and lose some even with a faster or slower car depending on the circumstances.

If you are going to run a heavy hitting turbo car to have any chance you can not let him spool on boost first.

And finally running any big name turbo car is going to be a crap shoot.
Its just to easy for them to adjust the boost or tune in 40-100 hp in literally a few minutes.
Truth be told all of the guys I know with 911TT's or GTR's or any turbo car turn up the boost within a few weeks of purchasing the damn things.

Point is, just because they say its stock don't make it so.
I never expect a turbo car to be running stock boost, especially if the owner is a car guy/gal.

Kouasupra

At the end of the day the big question is, “how deep is your pocket?” Modding a vette will be cheaper then modding a 911 turbo so you have the upper hand.

Gixxerman

I am biased towards Corvettes obviously.. but look where I post.. it IS a Corvette forum. Truthfully if someone likes VW's that's fine.. they aren't even on my radar actually. I put them up there with Electric cars.. they may be great fast or whatever, but I personally ain't owning the damn things.. I'll stick with my lowly domestic Corvette TY lol

dar02081961

Your point is well taken, but dialing in a few more pounds of boost on a turbo car is pretty cheap.
Sometimes depending on the car it can even be done in the tune without turning a wrench.

But yes generally speaking a plastic fantastic Chevy can be modified to run with anything for pennies on the dollar comparatively speaking.
The beauty and value of a good ole American Chevy V8.

frodoz737

I always laugh when the 6" rulers come out.