Michelin Cup 2 tires with track connect
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Michelin Cup 2 tires with track connect
I had my 19 Z06 in for its annual inspection and the cup tires won't pass . 4200 miles!!
Anyway, I ordered another set from Tire Rack. They are on backorder with no date in sight. Tire Rack thinks it could be 2 months. There is also a version of the tire with what's called Track Connect, a sensor in each tire that connects with an app for track guys (which I am not) and communicates info about tire pressure to an app. Seems like fun for a non track guy like me. The tires are a few bucks more expensive with this thing.
I changed the order to these because they will ship next week, as opposed to "who knows when". Anybody have experience with this Track Connect thing, and am I in for a bad experience when they are installed, as the sensor need to be installed as well?
https://www.michelinman.com/trackconnect.html
Anyway, I ordered another set from Tire Rack. They are on backorder with no date in sight. Tire Rack thinks it could be 2 months. There is also a version of the tire with what's called Track Connect, a sensor in each tire that connects with an app for track guys (which I am not) and communicates info about tire pressure to an app. Seems like fun for a non track guy like me. The tires are a few bucks more expensive with this thing.
I changed the order to these because they will ship next week, as opposed to "who knows when". Anybody have experience with this Track Connect thing, and am I in for a bad experience when they are installed, as the sensor need to be installed as well?
https://www.michelinman.com/trackconnect.html
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If you don't install the sensors I think you can just consider you just paid more money for the tires. The sensor install instructions aren't very clear. At first it looks like the sensor is installed inside the tire. However, the last picture seems to show the sensor on the outside sidewall near the rim but not touching the rim. I don't know how it would provide all of the data it is supposed to provide if it is outside of the tire. The tire jockey will have to be more qualified than the normal tire jockey you find in tire shops. I have run into a number of them that aren't all that sharp.
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If you don't install the sensors I think you can just consider you just paid more money for the tires. The sensor install instructions aren't very clear. At first it looks like the sensor is installed inside the tire. However, the last picture seems to show the sensor on the outside sidewall near the rim but not touching the rim. I don't know how it would provide all of the data it is supposed to provide if it is outside of the tire. The tire jockey will have to be more qualified than the normal tire jockey you find in tire shops. I have run into a number of them that aren't all that sharp.
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My servicing dealer has great Corvette techs and equipment. Good to know I don't have to use the sensors if things get dicey. Again, I'm not a track guy and am willing to pay a bit more to replace the tires and pass inspection.
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Found a screw in one of my rears and was looking for a replacement & I also seen where no one had any cup 2's in stock. So basically same tire but with optional tire sensor?
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There's a patch on the inside of the tire. The sensor goes into the patch. It's very simple and you can do that before you take the tire in. The sensor has a line on it that needs to be parallel to the rib on the tire. It also has to be in the correct orientation with the valve stem. You have to buy the track connect kit as well and if I remember correctly it's around 500. You also need to know the serial number for the sensor on each tire unless you have an Ateq tool for setting it up. If you don't track it's a big waste of money.
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Why use Cup 2 if you do not track it? In my personal experience the Super Sport provide superior grip on the street compared to Cup 2.
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I had my 19 Z06 in for its annual inspection and the cup tires won't pass . 4200 miles!!
Anyway, I ordered another set from Tire Rack. They are on backorder with no date in sight. Tire Rack thinks it could be 2 months. There is also a version of the tire with what's called Track Connect, a sensor in each tire that connects with an app for track guys (which I am not) and communicates info about tire pressure to an app. Seems like fun for a non track guy like me. The tires are a few bucks more expensive with this thing.
I changed the order to these because they will ship next week, as opposed to "who knows when". Anybody have experience with this Track Connect thing, and am I in for a bad experience when they are installed, as the sensor need to be installed as well?
https://www.michelinman.com/trackconnect.html
Anyway, I ordered another set from Tire Rack. They are on backorder with no date in sight. Tire Rack thinks it could be 2 months. There is also a version of the tire with what's called Track Connect, a sensor in each tire that connects with an app for track guys (which I am not) and communicates info about tire pressure to an app. Seems like fun for a non track guy like me. The tires are a few bucks more expensive with this thing.
I changed the order to these because they will ship next week, as opposed to "who knows when". Anybody have experience with this Track Connect thing, and am I in for a bad experience when they are installed, as the sensor need to be installed as well?
https://www.michelinman.com/trackconnect.html
Are your Cup2s down to the wear bars? Some mechanics might not pass them because they don't understand the outer part of the tire isn't considered from a street wear standpoint since there is no visible tread there after a few hundred miles.
The problem is it is up to the individual mechanic and what they feel is right. The mechanic at the dealership wouldn't listen to any of the other mechanics who were qualified to do NY State Inspections saying I would pass that. The Service Writer was stuck because he couldn't reassign the car without causing larger issues beyond servicing my car so he took the next best path.
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badhabit_wb (08-28-2020)
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I had an inspection station tell me they were going to fail me for tires when the car was new...lol.
Took it to a large Chevy dealer who sells lots of Vettes and used to looking at C2s and was fine for over 3 years and 12000 miles. They still were above the wear bars when I took them off
Find a speed shop or someone familiar with such a tire
Took it to a large Chevy dealer who sells lots of Vettes and used to looking at C2s and was fine for over 3 years and 12000 miles. They still were above the wear bars when I took them off
Find a speed shop or someone familiar with such a tire
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I had my 19 Z06 in for its annual inspection and the cup tires won't pass . 4200 miles!!
Anyway, I ordered another set from Tire Rack. They are on backorder with no date in sight. Tire Rack thinks it could be 2 months. There is also a version of the tire with what's called Track Connect, a sensor in each tire that connects with an app for track guys (which I am not) and communicates info about tire pressure to an app. Seems like fun for a non track guy like me. The tires are a few bucks more expensive with this thing.
I changed the order to these because they will ship next week, as opposed to "who knows when". Anybody have experience with this Track Connect thing, and am I in for a bad experience when they are installed, as the sensor need to be installed as well?
https://www.michelinman.com/trackconnect.html
Anyway, I ordered another set from Tire Rack. They are on backorder with no date in sight. Tire Rack thinks it could be 2 months. There is also a version of the tire with what's called Track Connect, a sensor in each tire that connects with an app for track guys (which I am not) and communicates info about tire pressure to an app. Seems like fun for a non track guy like me. The tires are a few bucks more expensive with this thing.
I changed the order to these because they will ship next week, as opposed to "who knows when". Anybody have experience with this Track Connect thing, and am I in for a bad experience when they are installed, as the sensor need to be installed as well?
https://www.michelinman.com/trackconnect.html
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I just got new front MPSS from Discount Tire, they are the new part number and it only took a few days to get them. I would think the rears are available now too. Tire Rack doesn't list them yet, try somewhere else.
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FYI, track connect models use an updated compound, which is supposed to perform better than regular cup 2, and also more stable when heated. It'd be interesting to try and test these claims.
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Who was doing the inspection? I ran into this a few years ago when I used to run Kumho DOT R tires on my C5. They only had two center grooves that went around the tire and both grooves were above the wear bar. The mechanic at the dealership refused to pass then. Finally the Service Writer got fed up with the guy and told me I would have to take it someplace else for the inspection. He picked up the phone and made a call talked for a couple of minutes and gave me directions to a shop near the dealership. When I got there the owner/mechanic looked at the tires and said I hear you were having a problem with xxxxx passing the tires. Those look fine to me. He put the car up on his lift walked around under it, lowered the car, made out the inspection sticker and said that will be $15 and I was on my way.
Are your Cup2s down to the wear bars? Some mechanics might not pass them because they don't understand the outer part of the tire isn't considered from a street wear standpoint since there is no visible tread there after a few hundred miles.
The problem is it is up to the individual mechanic and what they feel is right. The mechanic at the dealership wouldn't listen to any of the other mechanics who were qualified to do NY State Inspections saying I would pass that. The Service Writer was stuck because he couldn't reassign the car without causing larger issues beyond servicing my car so he took the next best path.
Bill
Are your Cup2s down to the wear bars? Some mechanics might not pass them because they don't understand the outer part of the tire isn't considered from a street wear standpoint since there is no visible tread there after a few hundred miles.
The problem is it is up to the individual mechanic and what they feel is right. The mechanic at the dealership wouldn't listen to any of the other mechanics who were qualified to do NY State Inspections saying I would pass that. The Service Writer was stuck because he couldn't reassign the car without causing larger issues beyond servicing my car so he took the next best path.
Bill
Thanks for the input, a lot of good stuff here.
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Update- the cups with the Track Connect feature were delivered to the dealer last Friday. The cups without Track Connect- no ETA. Same tires- Track Connect option causes quite a difference in delivery times.
Makes you wonder.
Makes you wonder.
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Sorry I missed this post. So they are not exactly the same tire? I just hope they last more than 4200 miles. And I should state for the record that they failed only the front tires. It's just a thing with me that I never replace less than a full set.