Patching/Plugging run flat PSS tire?
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Patching/Plugging run flat PSS tire?
Hi Guys, picked up some sort of wide headed metal piece (probably a screw I would guess) in one of my Mich PSS and I have a slow leak. This is my first go round with run flats, so what is the deal, can they be plugged/patched? It is not into the sidewall, almost center cut.
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Based on where it is, you can have it plug and patched.
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Different manufacturers have differing opinions:
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Take it to a tire store. Depending on the angle etc., they 'can' be plugged. Recommend doing both plug and patch if they can repair it. Been there, done that, and ran on track...about 6,000 miles ago.
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The dealers I called wouldn't repair it. Discount Tire will for free if it meets their criteria. Depends on the business. Many people on this forum have repaired with good results.
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usrodeo4 (11-02-2019)
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No one will repair a Y rated tire, because the 186+ mph rating could be compromised. A Y rating says you can go over 186 mph safely (well at least as far as the tires are concerned). No one knows what damage might have been done to the belts when the nail/ screw/object went through. If at 185 MPH a tire that a repair shop fixed for you suddenly disintegrates your heirs will surely sue the guys who fixed the tire. Seeing as how there is no way to change the tire rating after a repair or limit the speed on the car, they simply say no repair. Now that does not mean that you cannot go buy a repair kit and plug it yourself, but your heirs won't have anybody to sue. That said on my last Z06 I did plug a tire myself. I was not much in the habit of driving over 186....I usually kept it under 160...and I knew that I had fixed the tire so I took the risk on for myself. If the screw is at least 2" from the sidewall I would say patch it yourself....but I certainly would do not endorse such a practice....tell your heirs I said that.
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Some dealers will patch them and some won't. The easiest way to avoid any chance of liability is to say NO. The other way is to repair the tire as the manufacturer instructs. The old GY EMTs had a patching procedure that each GM Corvette dealer had to be trained to use. Not all GY stores were qualified to patch the tires. Where I used to live the store closest to me said told me they weren't trained and that I had to go to the store 15 miles further down the road.
Some tire stores won't patch them either. Some tire stores don't patch V rated tires even though they can be patched and maintain their rating if done properly. It is all a game finding the ones who will do the right thing or the ones that are afraid of their backside being roasted. I was at an autocross in a Sam's Club parking lot a long time ago and picked up a nail in one of my BFG R1s during the event. I rolled it over to the tire shop and the manager said I can't repair that. Then somebody else gave me a ride to a local tire dealer down the street. They guy at the counter said leave the tire over there and come back in an hour. When I came back the tire was patched. I asked how much and he said Nothing. Tip the guy that did the work. No records of anything, somebody got paid for repairing the tire, I got a repaired tire and was able to finish the event.
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Some tire stores won't patch them either. Some tire stores don't patch V rated tires even though they can be patched and maintain their rating if done properly. It is all a game finding the ones who will do the right thing or the ones that are afraid of their backside being roasted. I was at an autocross in a Sam's Club parking lot a long time ago and picked up a nail in one of my BFG R1s during the event. I rolled it over to the tire shop and the manager said I can't repair that. Then somebody else gave me a ride to a local tire dealer down the street. They guy at the counter said leave the tire over there and come back in an hour. When I came back the tire was patched. I asked how much and he said Nothing. Tip the guy that did the work. No records of anything, somebody got paid for repairing the tire, I got a repaired tire and was able to finish the event.
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ZR1Bob (11-02-2019)
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I got a nail in my rear tire. 2016 ZO6, ZO7 pkg. I brought it to a Chevy dealer and he said, if you patch it you void the warranty.
i told him to patch it. They patched it and a few months later I brought it to the track (top speed 153).
it held fine and I am still driving on it.
i told him to patch it. They patched it and a few months later I brought it to the track (top speed 153).
it held fine and I am still driving on it.
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usrodeo4 (11-02-2019)
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When I needed a run flat patched on my X3 the dealer said, 'no' although the tire manufacturer said it was ok. Their reason was they had idea how many miles it was driven flat and thus no clue as to the tires integrity. I took it to a local tire joint a few miles down the road. Plug/patch $35
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Yeah, you really probably have to. I picked up a screw in a rear tire, but not close to the sidewall. The dealership had to stay on the party line as did the local NTB Tire store...you can't patch or plug run flats. I went to a Corvette mechanic who has a great reputation and he assured me that he could plug this puncture with 100% success. He did about 1000 miles ago and that tire holds air as well as the other "virgin" three do. The right mechanic can do it if its a simple nail or screw puncture, just not in either of the outside treads..
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Sorry to hear you got a naii. These tires pick up everything.
The dealership will want to sell you a new tire.
If you have Discount Tire near you, go there. They usually have the best equipment.
They can do a "patch/plug."
I got a bolt in my Sport Cup 2's this past summer and it's held up fine with over 700RWHP and scores of high speed runs after a patch/plug.
The dealership will want to sell you a new tire.
If you have Discount Tire near you, go there. They usually have the best equipment.
They can do a "patch/plug."
I got a bolt in my Sport Cup 2's this past summer and it's held up fine with over 700RWHP and scores of high speed runs after a patch/plug.
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usrodeo4 (11-02-2019)
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I’ll plug any & everything. I doubt I’ll ever run any tire above 186mph. Doubt you will either.
And I know other ‘track’ guys that’ll same as I will
And I know other ‘track’ guys that’ll same as I will
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I've plugged tires on several vehicles as well as two different vettes. This includes both rears on the original set of MPSSs on my current Z06. I used the standard plug kit from Autozone. Never had them patched and never had them leak. One of the punctures on my Z06 occured with about 500 miles on the tire. It was still holding air when I replaced it after almost 13,000 miles. As long as the puncture is not close to the sidewall, I say if you aren't going to track the car consider repairing it yourself if no one will do it for you.
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