C7 Z06 AWD-why not?
12-12-2016, 07:16 PM
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C7 Z06 AWD-why not?
Hey Guys, I am curious why GM does not make the Corvette AWD? More traction sould equal faster times and better performance. What do you guys think about it and if it's not then why is it not a good idea.
12-12-2016, 07:34 PM
#2
Melting Slicks
Do you want a 4,000 lb Corvette? Also, take a look under the car. It's extremely tightly packaged with a design to keep center of gravity as low as possible. The only way they're making an AWD Corvetted is to put electric motors on each of the front wheels.
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12-12-2016, 07:52 PM
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Burning Brakes
I think its much less about weight rather then the low center of gravity, not sure there's room up front for an AWD system. If you compare some of porsches, lambos and Jag rwd and awd cars there's only a 125-150 difference. Car would weigh roughly 3750 but have insane acceleration. I know I have heard Awd cars tend to be much worse handling on tracks, though it appears with new technology they have much better ways to control the power and where it goes now.
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12-12-2016, 09:07 PM
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Le Mans Master
I don't think anyone said it's a dog on the track but you have to admit the turbo s is more of a GT car that CAN put up some nice lap times. All the hardcore porsche track models (GT3, GT3RS, GT2RS 997) are all rwd cars. There has to be something said for that.
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12-12-2016, 11:11 PM
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Burning Brakes
Price really isn't that relevant in the convo though, everyone knows Porsche charges a premium for the name. They also sell a pretty damn good Carrera 4s for about 100k. And if your gonna compare the Z06 track performance you have to base it on the Z07 which comes out to at least 90k, the turbo S probably outperforms a stage 1 on the track. An AWD Vette could be a great GT style car. I think GM kinda missed the boat and should've made the Z06 a more full on RWD, lightweight track oriented car, and the ZR1 (if possible, awd) GT car.
12-12-2016, 11:46 PM
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neat idea but would you buy one? all "track and GT theories" aside I promise you GM does the homework before they produce anything and if they know it's a losing proposition it won't happen.
I know I wouldn't buy an AWD Corvette for multiple reasons. I wouldn't touch that AWD Challenger either, let's see how many Dodge sells.
I know I wouldn't buy an AWD Corvette for multiple reasons. I wouldn't touch that AWD Challenger either, let's see how many Dodge sells.
12-13-2016, 06:54 AM
#12
Melting Slicks
Sorry, no one is paying $180K for a Chevy. And yes I see and pass
Carrera 4s's on the track frequently......in my CTS-V coupe. Not even in the same zip code as the Z06.
Carrera 4s's on the track frequently......in my CTS-V coupe. Not even in the same zip code as the Z06.
12-13-2016, 09:45 AM
#14
Burning Brakes
Why would it be 180K, I don't think many are paying that either. If it was like 100K to start, I think the loyalist here would be surprised how many AWD Z06's they'd sell.
12-13-2016, 10:11 AM
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Packaging and complexity are the key reasons why the engineers wouldnt do it. The sales guys (probably more of a factor) would say it would dilute the brand.
Maybe the real question is why is the read diff still a normal mechanical one and not a electonicly controlled one that can better manage the power (like the one used in the Maca P1 for example)? But then you could say the same for the dampers and ARBs as well. But that again probably turns some people off the brand (too many electronics).
Maybe the real question is why is the read diff still a normal mechanical one and not a electonicly controlled one that can better manage the power (like the one used in the Maca P1 for example)? But then you could say the same for the dampers and ARBs as well. But that again probably turns some people off the brand (too many electronics).
12-13-2016, 10:25 AM
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Packaging and complexity are the key reasons why the engineers wouldnt do it. The sales guys (probably more of a factor) would say it would dilute the brand.
Maybe the real question is why is the read diff still a normal mechanical one and not a electonicly controlled one that can better manage the power (like the one used in the Maca P1 for example)? But then you could say the same for the dampers and ARBs as well. But that again probably turns some people off the brand (too many electronics).
Maybe the real question is why is the read diff still a normal mechanical one and not a electonicly controlled one that can better manage the power (like the one used in the Maca P1 for example)? But then you could say the same for the dampers and ARBs as well. But that again probably turns some people off the brand (too many electronics).
12-13-2016, 11:03 AM
#17
Burning Brakes
It could've been done if they really wanted to do it and its def not the car design because they could design around it if AWD was in the picture in the first place... It was more then likely a RWD heritage thing to be honest.
You got dumbasses on here that would bitch about an AWD Vette and yet be the same people with a 900whp vette that get their *** handed to them on the street by a stock turbo GTR.
-Curtis
You got dumbasses on here that would bitch about an AWD Vette and yet be the same people with a 900whp vette that get their *** handed to them on the street by a stock turbo GTR.
-Curtis
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12-13-2016, 11:51 AM
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It could've been done if they really wanted to do it and its def not the car design because they could design around it if AWD was in the picture in the first place... It was more then likely a RWD heritage thing to be honest.
You got dumbasses on here that would bitch about an AWD Vette and yet be the same people with a 900whp vette that get their *** handed to them on the street by a stock turbo GTR.
-Curtis
You got dumbasses on here that would bitch about an AWD Vette and yet be the same people with a 900whp vette that get their *** handed to them on the street by a stock turbo GTR.
-Curtis
12-13-2016, 11:59 AM
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Melting Slicks
The only AWD car I can think of that gives the Z06 a potential challenge on a road course and isn't a 918 Porsche is the GTR. The Z06 beats the 911 TTS through the corners.
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12-13-2016, 12:01 PM
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Burning Brakes
There are plenty of stock turbo GTR's out there that run in the 9's make over 600whp and trap in the upper 130's and low 140's. Its been seen on the street plenty of times from a dig when the vette has no traction... 
Running on a non prepped street is completely different then running on a prepped track.
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Running on a non prepped street is completely different then running on a prepped track.
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