Twowheelin_wildman

theboom

Ya something bigger and better from another company. No within. Not the Camaro

stevebz06

The Gen 5 Z28 was faster that the C7 Z51 in some tests, so why would you not expect some performance overlap?

OVR60

Since the Camaro and Mustang will be using the same 10 speed transmission it will be interesting to see how these 3 cars compare to each other.

Lavender

Correct. Sales went in the toilet but it still did its job to make the Camaro brand recognized world wide.

I'm a big fan of the gen 6 ZL1 because of the Z/28. A lot of other people in my neck of woods are considering a ZL1 over their M3s etc etc.. When you have people willing to replace their couple months old M3/M4 with a Camaro...you know something is up. We'll see...

3 Z06ZR1

HUH?????

ROBWILKER

Exactly. I know my local Chevy dealer traded his Gen5 Z28's, one for a Malibu another for a Silverado. He took profit where he could make a sale. Z28's generated some floor traffic but overwhelming customer comments prohibiting purchases were about the $70K plus MSRP price. The 1LE Camaro pkg. was definitely more in line with the Camaro demographic for a track car. My new '13 427 60th Ann. Corvette Vert. cost less than the Z28 , has the LS7 and nearly all the amenities of a C6 Z06, steel frame excepted for extra 156 lbs. It is certainly competitive performance wise with the Gen5 Z28. The details and customer support for the Gen6 Z28 remains to be seen.

ROBWILKER

I agree with the first part of your statements. The 1LE pkg. which is an "SS" Camaro was the best performing track Camaro for the buck. The Gen5 Z28 was published to be marginally faster than a ZL1. I seriously question these stats. I don't know anyone who owns a Gen5 Z28. As you said, production was very limited. The COPO Camaro program also contributed greatly to world opinion of Camaro. The dealers, customers and aftermarket vendors support the SS Camaro model more than any other. The SS Camaro also did more to keep the Chevy outselling Ford Mustang and Dodge Challenger every month with minor exception. I say the Camaro 1SS/2SS was cared about very much with the LS3/L99 engines appealing to the performance segment the most. I am sure thinking about trading my '13 ZL1 for a Gen6 ZL1 but production is said to be very limited to 1000 units. Not many dealers will see one. That LT4 in my C7 Z06 is sure a great performer, even stock and this is the "Corvette" forum Z06 thread.

ElSeano80

You know you could get a Z/28 with an upgraded radio and AC?

BooSSted

Yes I'm aware, point was it's a track focused car ... IF you have to opt into having a radio & AC.

Lavender

I meant no one in Europe cared about the SS. I have seen 3 or 4 SS total since they came out 6 or so years ago. But that changed when the Z/28 came out. As I said..I saw 3 or 4 for the entire lifespan of the Gen V Camaro.

You should go for the gen 6 ZL1. Production will be slow @ start but eventually every dealer will get their allocations.

Varmit

I could care less what the Camaro does or does not do.

69L79

Ever since its inception in the middle 60s the Camaro was always breathing down the neck of the Corvette. However, it never had, and still does not have the styling/looks of a Vette. At 69 years old and owner of 20 lifetime Vettes I would never buy a Camaro, no matter how great/fast. To me the Camaro, like the Mustang, is a very good car in many aspects. But, I will always see both as "kid's"/wannabe cars.

stevebz06

I think everybody is missing the point of the Z28: it was not intended to set sales records, it was for the purpose of racing in the Pirelli series against the Mustang and Porsche and it did its job admirably and won the series last year. This year Ford has no opposition from GM and will likely run away with the series.

To complain that the Z28 didn't sell a lot of cars would be like Porsche-files complaining that the GT3 is a sales failure and should be canceled because the Carrerra out sells it.

I think it's great that GM is back to racing its' production cars and I just wish they had a similar interest in the Corvette.

jvp

When Corvette moves as many units a year in total as the Camaro does, then GM might consider a stripped-down track-only version. But I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

stevebz06

We've had a lot of arguments about this before. In 1986 you could order a radio-delete car, in 2001 they produced a car that was lighter and noisier for the express purpose of performance. The factory is staking its reputation on international racing with the C7. There was supposed to be a turn-key factory race C7 for a Corvette only racing series but I haven't heard a thing about that recently.

Producing a limited run track oriented C7 might not sell a lot of cars but it could generate a lot of interest and would likely create an instant collectible.

ROBWILKER

Originally posted by LAVENDER:
I meant no one in Europe cared about the SS. I have seen 3 or 4 SS total since they came out 6 or so years ago. But that changed when the Z/28 came out. As I said..I saw 3 or 4 for the entire lifespan of the Gen V Camaro.You should go for the gen 6 ZL1. Production will be slow @ start but eventually every dealer will get their allocations. [/QUOTE]


As I said, I am surprised to see so much about the Camaro model here in the Corvette Forum Z06 thread. To address this last remark, I believe people gravitate toward what they prefer, it is only human nature. One might not see all the "SS" models since they are clearly not the preference. My opinion: perhaps the lack of Camaro "SS" sightings where you are, noted as 3 or 4 Gen5 Camaro SS models for the entire six year production run (more than seven years in the public eye on the road 2009-2016) is quite remarkable. Maybe it is a geographic thing? I seem to find numerous Gen5 Camaro SS models in my area. Maybe I just notice because I have a couple Gen5 Camaros in my stable ( '11 2SS Vert. & '13 ZL1 Vert. in addition to the C6 427 and C7 Z06.)I'll bet you could get more accurate sales and demographic info on the Gen5 & Gen6 Camaro models over at the Camaro5 and Camaro6 Forums.