Getting the cold-start bark every time
#1
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Getting the cold-start bark every time
As you may know, particularly in a convertible inside a garage, the initial cold start "bark" you get on startup when left in Sport is awesome.
I am wondering if anyone know exactly why, and if we can cause it to do that every time by changing the calibration.
If it's because it cold-starts very rich, I suppose in theory we could increase the cranking fuel (at the cost of emissions) to replicate it every time.
Normal cold fuel pressure is 350kPa, cold is 400. But hot starts use an even higher pressure (up to 525) so it's not just the pressure.
Cranking pressure is 425 across the whole range, so it's not that.
So, the question is, why does that first fireup sound so much better?. Is it specific to the LT4? Or just to direct injection?
Please don't say "because the engine is cold" or "it's the first time it's been started"... It's the why that we'd need to know to replicate it! And yes I realize it might void a warranty, but I'm not coming to do it your car, so that's OK.
I am wondering if anyone know exactly why, and if we can cause it to do that every time by changing the calibration.
If it's because it cold-starts very rich, I suppose in theory we could increase the cranking fuel (at the cost of emissions) to replicate it every time.
Normal cold fuel pressure is 350kPa, cold is 400. But hot starts use an even higher pressure (up to 525) so it's not just the pressure.
Cranking pressure is 425 across the whole range, so it's not that.
So, the question is, why does that first fireup sound so much better?. Is it specific to the LT4? Or just to direct injection?
Please don't say "because the engine is cold" or "it's the first time it's been started"... It's the why that we'd need to know to replicate it! And yes I realize it might void a warranty, but I'm not coming to do it your car, so that's OK.
Last edited by davepl; 02-09-2016 at 02:26 PM.
#2
Scraping the splitter.
It's pretty cool when I start it up in the trailer when I get to the track on Friday evenings, and especially the next mornings after it's been sitting all night.
S.
#3
The ECM's have specific "cold" maps for startup, to try and get the engine/cats up to temp as rapidly as possible. More fuel, higher RPMs.
Last edited by Rguy271; 02-09-2016 at 02:41 PM.
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#7
Melting Slicks
As you may know, particularly in a convertible inside a garage, the initial cold start "bark" you get on startup when left in Sport is awesome.
I am wondering if anyone know exactly why, and if we can cause it to do that every time by changing the calibration.
If it's because it cold-starts very rich, I suppose in theory we could increase the cranking fuel (at the cost of emissions) to replicate it every time.
Normal cold fuel pressure is 350kPa, cold is 400. But hot starts use an even higher pressure (up to 525) so it's not just the pressure.
Cranking pressure is 425 across the whole range, so it's not that.
So, the question is, why does that first fireup sound so much better?. Is it specific to the LT4? Or just to direct injection?
Please don't say "because the engine is cold" or "it's the first time it's been started"... It's the why that we'd need to know to replicate it! And yes I realize it might void a warranty, but I'm not coming to do it your car, so that's OK.
I am wondering if anyone know exactly why, and if we can cause it to do that every time by changing the calibration.
If it's because it cold-starts very rich, I suppose in theory we could increase the cranking fuel (at the cost of emissions) to replicate it every time.
Normal cold fuel pressure is 350kPa, cold is 400. But hot starts use an even higher pressure (up to 525) so it's not just the pressure.
Cranking pressure is 425 across the whole range, so it's not that.
So, the question is, why does that first fireup sound so much better?. Is it specific to the LT4? Or just to direct injection?
Please don't say "because the engine is cold" or "it's the first time it's been started"... It's the why that we'd need to know to replicate it! And yes I realize it might void a warranty, but I'm not coming to do it your car, so that's OK.
#8
Instructor
I'm sorry but I doubt that's true. Cold starts with exhaust left in stealth vs sport is night & day. The exhaust definitely does not open itself up on every start.
#9
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
That presumes engine sound management is set to Link to Drive Mode, of course.
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#10
Melting Slicks
Im quoting an engineer from the 2013 reveal so its very possible they made operational changes since then. I should have qualified my source and timing of the information. Beside according to my gf i am ALWAYS wrong.... so might as well be wrong here also.
#11
Racer
#12
Drifting
I also love that sound and you are right it sounds much better after a long rest like early in the morning. I believe it is the result of the throttle opening more during "cold crank" vs. starting with a warm/hot engine. So to produce the same effect you would have to adjust the airflow table to be equal for all ECT's.
#13
Drifting
This same argument has gone on in so many threads regarding the pulled fuse. Here's how I KNOW that I have the real answer: I have run a switch to the fuse that allows me to essentially "pull" or "replace" the fuse any time I choose. As soon as I move the switch the change in sound is apparent. Admittedly, if I hit the switch when under a very light throttle, the volume difference is smaller, but still there.
#15
Pulling fuse 42 makes a difference on the A8s. I pulled mine and noticed a significant difference (note: my exhaust has always been set to track.)
The drone was annoying on the highway, so I replaced the fuse.
The drone was annoying on the highway, so I replaced the fuse.
#17
That makes both of us, that's why I'm vetteless!