3 Z06ZR1

Ill informed? About what?
Again who cares? The ACR is a little faster around the track..

BIG DEAL!


The ACR with the extreme wing and boy racer look is a car I would not drive on the street." IF" I was interested in track driving or the results I'm sure I maybe be interested.
The Viper has been out with the V-10 since 1992.

I never had the desire to walk across the street to look at them.
Let alone think about driving or buying one.
Same as 99.99999 percent of the public.

Tested the Z06 is slightly faster in the 0-60 and 1/4 mile.
I added a little intake to bring my Z06 to 700hp

Headers and tune make 750 those are going on soon.

Now you can head back into retirement from lurking!

Crabbers

This guy.....

fleming23

You sure do post a lot about something you claim not to care anything about.

Z06Norway

With 680 or less car sold in 2015, i think we have an opinion on what is the better all round car ?
33.000 Corvette sold
nuff said

BUT again, kudos to a formidabel track toy with license plates

johnglenntwo

He always needs babying with it! What did he do here and why no comment? AWD and massive aero obviously can have far less of it! He has boobed-up this issue before. And wouldn't all that drag help the Viper's 60-0?

Don't let this thing having you given up on your cars strengths, and reality!

URBAN LEGEND

Jason Cammisa and Jonny Lieberman are 2 very unprofessional and annoying journalists. Get rid of them already.

3 Z06ZR1

Wow 680 cars in 2015 sold sounds like serious competition
to the Corvette's.
Then with the price hike the sales should be less. For 2016
Remember in took a price reduction to sell them in 2015.
If they would have installed the hellcat motor and went less
radical on the wing and front. They could have been
competition instead of a spectacle.

All out track car with a huge wing! Not many will sell at 135,000
for street cars. Then only to out sprinted on the streets
and drag strips by Z06's. Which are better all around cars.

Crabbers

In my experience, the one using an exorbitant amount of emoticons coupled with a failure to ever address any of the facts is the one who is "butthurt"

YMMV

Garret

I had to give you a little grief...you are too serious.... Love the silver and black.

JackTripper

That dealer was mis-informed. Mine, as well as ~90% of Z07 owners, have theirs on as well; installed by the dealer at PDI.

I did however remove the clear wickerbill as it was difficult to see out of the rear. I like the look better too.

SBC_and_a_stick

In professional racing? I'm sure of it. The car is built to fit regulations.

On the road? Not so much. Ford has decided to go with a fairly small engine. I don't believe they have the best heads in the business or turbo technology. Restricted to only 91 octane the GT's engine is going to be a huge drawback. In racing...not so much. Good fuel and unlimited cam profiles will make for good power.

This is not a car Ford built for its customers. It built it for its brand and winning races. Not the same thing in my book.

Great point for us attending track days, doing 12+ laps in a session. Not much of a point for Motor Trend competitions. Remember they only do 3 laps or so. The smaller iron rotors probably help keep mass low. There's not enough time to heat them up.

Say it ain't so. Even Pobst is starting to get unprofessional. I liked him better when he was modest and technical. Mostly bozos in US car videos. Watch the Brits if you want to see someone educated with real flair. Without Pobst hot laps I wouldn't even watch them.

Steve Garrett

You know, this is a great discussion.....




I would hate to see this thread closed because of personal pissing matches and off-topic conversation going on within the thread. I've already deleted a large amount of the pissing match.


If this persists, I will close this thread and hand out new 2016 bans.



Enough said.......

davepl

No.

If the fact that the car you own is not the very fastest in the world at its price point is why you bought the car, you are signing up for a lifetime series of disappointments.

You need to get a Veyron and hope for the best, but it still won't make you happy.

The car is exactly what the car was before the video came out. Worth it and a lot more. I'm also very happy that it's supercharged and mine never overheats. Just easy to please I guess!

It always comes up "Oh, but my car is cheaper so I can use that money to make it faster". If car X is slower than Y then aftermarket parts to make X faster yields car Z; it doesn't make X faster. X is X. Z is Z. They are not the same car.

darbgnik

The brakes on the TA are fine(not spectacular). They are the same used on the ACRX racecar. They are also significantly heavier than the 2 piece track pack rotors on all Gen 5 Vipers, which are actually Gen 4 ACR brakes.


The braking limits of the TA, as with most sports cars these days will always be tires. Albeit, feel can certainly be improved, but not overall braking ability, without better contact with the track surface.

kverges

Ah, the meltdown has begun. This forum is strange in that the comparison threads with anything unfavorable about the Z06 bring out childish baiting about how great the competitor is, blind-brand-loyalty-based insults, and of course some name-calling thrown in.

By comparison, at another forum, the Porsche 991 GT3 and RS owners debate and respect the ACR and many of them are buying one or have one already. There is never a meltdown or need to move the thread into the land of misfit threads, like where this thread may be headed.

Z06 and ACR Extreme are both great and even better is that they are both domestically made and great value propositions. OF COURSE it's personal preference what to buy. No one's preference is either wrong or stupid between these two cars, either. You have to be a pretty serious track rat to buy the ACR, but if you are most think it is the clear choice. I personally agree the Z06 is the clear choice as a street GT car and probably so for casual track use, especially if you are not running 10/10.

But WTF on dumping on one car or its owner? Grow up, people - you make domestic car lovers, Viper or Vette, look like Neanderthals.

\Boost Monkey/

Despite numerous attempts by others to explain the different intended goals of these two cars, you still somehow seem to find yourself hung up on sales volumes and how SRT 'could have' made these cars competitors...and going "less radical on the wing and front" as if SRT's intended goal was looks, which is what seems to be the most important factor for you.

RC000E

Interesting confidence given the current day regulatory environment. All bets are off when it comes to a great car winning because it's a great car. IMSA/USCC are about corporate contribution and the bop is definitely questionable at times.

If the FordGT busts out this year winning races...HELL no. No data, no understanding of the car, fresh crew, fresh combinations...they shouldn't come close to winning race all year versus the Corvettes and Ferrari's which are established carry overs with known performance parameters.

On the street, the Ford GT is going to likely hand out some *** whippings. If we see some type of hybrid recovery system driving the CHRA of the turbo's, coupled with some traction management, stuff could get real. Aerodynamically, the Ford is a serious machine also. That car is a low drag downforce configuration. My personal money is on that FordGT being a force to reckon with.

With the Ford versus the ACR, you see this brute force/crude man approach, versus a new age technical approach in Ford. The ACR's way of business is frankly pretty straightforward...cars have gone fast with that recipe for decades. In the end, is the ACR really that impressive?

RC000E

I like this guy....I like where his heads at...

furiousox

With how much my c6 z06 struggles for traction coming out of the turns I can only imagine adding another couple hundred of HP...next gen platform should be much better for grip with the engine moved behind the cockpit, without the need to run ridiculous tires. I really appreciate the 911 variants nowadays - awesome corner exit traction with the engine right above the propelling wheels, while still giving RWD driving dynamics. No I would not take one over my Z06 because LS7.

C7DriverOnt

Viper, never met an uglier sports car. No wonder they have so much trouble keeping the assembly line going. Good thing it has some fine track numbers, it needs to have something going for it. Like an ugly girl that slides up along side you at closing time ... I'll rocks your socks in bed. Not marrying material