Road & Track PCOTY
10-22-2015, 08:09 AM
#41
Fact: Bought the car at MSRP of $103k. Only nine months later the best trade offer, after numerous dealers were consulted, was $78k. That's a loss of $25k in nine months, or 24%. That's pretty "tanky" to me.
Opinion: I think it's potentially going to get worse with new cars now available in lots with discounts and the heating issues now having become very well known in even casual car buyers.
It sucks that one issue can taint a car that is otherwise such a great car. It could have been simply a "car to rule them all"...
10-22-2015, 09:54 AM
#42
Fact: Bought the car at MSRP of $103k. Only nine months later the best trade offer, after numerous dealers were consulted, was $78k. That's a loss of $25k in nine months, or 24%. That's pretty "tanky" to me.
Opinion: I think it's potentially going to get worse with new cars now available in lots with discounts and the heating issues now having become very well known in even casual car buyers.
It sucks that one issue can taint a car that is otherwise such a great car. It could have been simply a "car to rule them all"...
I have an 2014 AMG with 3k miles, for which I paid 93k. Dealer offered me 60.
Most new cars take a serious hit the first year.
10-22-2015, 11:52 AM
#43
Intermediate
I've driven both the Gen V Viper (three different times but none were an ACR) and now a non-Z07 C7Z. Surprisingly, the Viper seemed - to me - just a little more harsh ride quality-wise than the C7Z but I did not get to drive them back to back. It definitely was not a hard ride at all as some have seemed to experience.
The hard part to live with on the Viper is the visibility and difficult access/egress on a day to day focus. The Z06 is definitely more 'friendly' in that respect. Plus, I found the C7Z to be quieter in the cabin most likely due to the Viper's side exhaust.
Power-wise, I would say they both felt comparable but the extra weight of the C7Z was somewhat noticeable to me. Much better visibility our of the C7Z. MUCH better.
And yes, the Gen V Viper does look a LOT better in person.
The hard part to live with on the Viper is the visibility and difficult access/egress on a day to day focus. The Z06 is definitely more 'friendly' in that respect. Plus, I found the C7Z to be quieter in the cabin most likely due to the Viper's side exhaust.
Power-wise, I would say they both felt comparable but the extra weight of the C7Z was somewhat noticeable to me. Much better visibility our of the C7Z. MUCH better.
And yes, the Gen V Viper does look a LOT better in person.
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Runs11s (10-22-2015)
10-22-2015, 01:36 PM
#46
Instructor
Shoot for it or not, that's all this thread will ever amount to, just like the 2,000 similar threads started every day. Some of us just enjoy our Z06s every day while others whine about Z06s they've never driven. Those who DO have Z06s and still want to whine, please go trade them for Vipers. GM needs to know you care and Dodge needs your money.
10-22-2015, 07:08 PM
#47
Drifting
The paint on the viper I looked at locally was AWEFUL compared to the paint on my vette. I mean, really horrible... It was dull, and gross. Half way between a matte and a gloss. It was hideous.
10-23-2015, 11:33 AM
#48
Advanced
Shoot for it or not, that's all this thread will ever amount to, just like the 2,000 similar threads started every day. Some of us just enjoy our Z06s every day while others whine about Z06s they've never driven. Those who DO have Z06s and still want to whine, please go trade them for Vipers. GM needs to know you care and Dodge needs your money.
For an enthusiasts' site, posters love to beat on the Z06. The negative posts go on forever with pages and pages. Any positive post quickly disappears.
For the other 99% of us who own Z06's we'll just go out and enjoy our 650 hp, supercharged, technological tour de force.
10-23-2015, 11:52 AM
#49
For an enthusiasts' site, posters love to beat on the Z06. The negative posts go on forever with pages and pages. Any positive post quickly disappears.
For the other 99% of us who own Z06's we'll just go out and enjoy our 650 hp, supercharged, technological tour de force.
10-23-2015, 01:16 PM
#50
Burning Brakes
For an enthusiasts' site, posters love to beat on the Z06. The negative posts go on forever with pages and pages. Any positive post quickly disappears.
For the other 99% of us who own Z06's we'll just go out and enjoy our 650 hp, supercharged, technological tour de force.
As soon as mine is out of the paint shop (rocks from road construction) it is going to have another 200hp added at Bailys Performance then it will be a "technological tour de force"!!
10-23-2015, 04:27 PM
#51
The ACR will be an awesome track car, and now that people are taking delivery of not only the base cars, but Extremes, real world feedback is imminent. 
While I haven't been compelled to buy a Gen V, the ACR is very attractive (to me, anyway).
For those of us that will track these cars (and I know you do ), I think the question will be how well the dealer network will support the car. It seems a little sketchy now, and I wonder if it will get worse if Viper is discontinued. From what I have read, in some cases owners have had lots of issues relative to getting service issues addressed. Thankfully, I have a friend who is a Viper tech at a local dealer, so I 'think' I would be fine.
S.
While I haven't been compelled to buy a Gen V, the ACR is very attractive (to me, anyway).For those of us that will track these cars (and I know you do
), I think the question will be how well the dealer network will support the car. It seems a little sketchy now, and I wonder if it will get worse if Viper is discontinued. From what I have read, in some cases owners have had lots of issues relative to getting service issues addressed. Thankfully, I have a friend who is a Viper tech at a local dealer, so I 'think' I would be fine. S.
10-23-2015, 04:28 PM
#52
The Gen V paint is superb.
10-23-2015, 04:41 PM
#53
Racer
10-23-2015, 07:00 PM
#56
Le Mans Master
If so, I hope such insanity is optional. I grew up worrying about nuclear war. I'm not going to grow old worrying about my oil cooler.
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10-23-2015, 07:09 PM
#59
Le Mans Master
I sell MB for a living...let me tell you, LEASE the damn thing, unless you plan on driving it until the wheels fall off. By far Corvettes in general hold their value better than the Avg Mercedes, AMG or not