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Old 09-30-2015, 06:24 PM
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intercooler pump failure? Too bad the C7 Z06 is a step backwards from the C6 Z06, I would die for a brand new C6 Z06 despite the fact I owned 3 of those already AND a ZR1.

Its a monster on paper but it seems those numbers rarely transfer to the track, and there are always "issues" with the cars sent for testing.
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"Most Track Capable Corvette Ever" LOL What a piece of junk.
Old 09-30-2015, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hirohawa
And the epic rollout continues.

Great job GM. You caked your pants for the whole world to see.

Thanks for protecting the Z06 heritage by making a heavy, Supercharged Car, that has constant track issues.

But on the bright side the Targa top is now removable!


I just sharted in my drawers!!!...

I was considering a C7Z (not really), but now I'm on the hunt for a more formidable "beast"...


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Old 09-30-2015, 10:42 PM
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This obviously was not the same car that C and D used for the LL. Not the one that beat the Porsche GT3...not the "Giant Slayer."

That C and D car was very much capable of wowing everyone. Not one problem was reported during that LL.

THIS CAR, however, has something wrong with it; much like some of the cars that are tracked by certain forum members. My point is: It's not a design problem but a consistency problem. There's clearly a quality control problem with a certain number of them that someone will hopefully figure out and solve quickly. My guess is it's the same problem or maybe 2 problems that are causing some to have these issues while others don't.

My 2 cents.

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Old 09-30-2015, 11:17 PM
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This obviously was not the same car that C and D used for the LL. Not the one that beat the Porsche GT3...not the "Giant Slayer."

That C and D car was very much capable of wowing everyone. Not one problem was reported during that LL.
What if it actually is the same car? What if it was the same yellow M7 Z07 car with black wheels, carbon flash mirrors and a painted roof that C&D raved about and then crashed on-track? Would that explain the "worn out brake pads" on the MT car? Could GM (or a repair shop) simply have slapped the C&D car back together and sent it to MT a month after it was in the garage "out of commission, having gone to the edge of the track and then somewhat beyond"? C&D talked about the off-track with the GT3, yet said nothing about the Z06 sitting next to it "out of commission".
I am still wondering what happened to the C&D car. If GM recycled that car and sent it to MT for BDC, their idiocy can't be understated. The very fact that they sent a car with "worn out brake pads" on a CCB car shows the car had some hard miles on it and nobody really looked at the car. They'd deserve all the bad press they get.
As I said in a previous post, MT should tell GM to "pack sand" if they try to weasel in another car for LS testing. They've jerked MT around twice with this car.
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Old 09-30-2015, 11:31 PM
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Agree that it could've very well been the same car. Wasted opportunity. I still enjoy the crap out of mine though.

That being said it's clear at least to me that the Z06 would've put down the fastest lap by a healthy margin. I mean the CTS-V was only 3 seconds behind the AMG-GT S and the Z beat that same car by 5.5 seconds in the Lightning Lap. Not sure if it would've beat the AMG over all in this comparo though.

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Old 09-30-2015, 11:43 PM
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Agree that it could've very well been the same car. Wasted opportunity. I still enjoy the crap out of mine though.

That being said it's clear at least to me that the Z06 would've put down the fastest lap by a healthy margin. I mean the CTS-V was only 3 seconds behind the AMG-GT S and the Z beat that same car by 5.5 seconds in the Lightning Lap. Not sure if it would've beat the AMG over all in this comparo though.
But, if you have an open mind, then you’ll see where we’re coming from when we say that hands down, the 2016 Cadillac CTS-V beats all comers in the traditional European sport sedan category in every way!

http://www.motorweek.org/reviews/roa...adillac-cts-v/

This was on TV last weekend! These guys might be mushy in general, but, they usually at least have things stacked up pretty well, and I was impressed!

3s really is a lot, but, Pobst isn't always really fast!

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Old 10-01-2015, 04:30 AM
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Randy said the car was getting worse. What a way to go out.

No worry boys, I'll be there on the 10th to reclaim the title.

Jk, I doubt I'll get into the 30"s this year.
Old 10-01-2015, 04:56 AM
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Frankly I could care less about lap times. If I wanted a track car, I'd buy a purpose built car.

However.... This is Completely unacceptable. Bad gas ??? Seriously? Mine is a street car and hopefully never experiences this but this criticism certainly devalues these cars. When Porsche had these issues with the GT3, they quarantined the cars and made it right. My guess is corporate beaurocracy, legal departments, finance all hide behind metrics that show the low percentage of incidents that really occur.

You can manipulate statistics to show any outcome you want to show. What will it really take to get GM to man up ?
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3secs is a lot, but considering the V is a 4DSC with an extra 400 lbs, steel brakes, and PSS. I'd say that is really close.
Old 10-01-2015, 07:11 AM
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GM absolutely has no excuse and who ever sent that car to MT in that condition should be fired.

Not demoted; fired.
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Old 10-01-2015, 07:32 AM
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This the same thing that happened to my car in May after tracking for six track days, GM could not fix it and I had a lengthy string of emails with the engineers, the fix was a new fuel pressure regulator switch and refilling the intercooler take to eliminate the void in the overflow tank.

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Originally Posted by Cyclone09Z06
This the same thing that happened to my car in May after tracking for six track days, GM could not fix it and I had a lengthy string of emails with the engineers, the fix was a new fuel pressure regulator switch and refilling the intercooler take to eliminate the void in the overflow tank.

http://youtu.be/gXFzmtB7jmM
Thats what I posted yesterday that I thought it could be a FP regulator issue or spark blow out on boost. I think GM threw out the bad gas excuse just to not have the blame on the car.
Old 10-01-2015, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by GP1224
I think GM threw out the bad gas excuse just to not have the blame on the car.
Or maybe the guys Motor Trend asked made a mistake in their initial diagnosis.
Old 10-01-2015, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jvp
Or maybe the guys Motor Trend asked made a mistake in their initial diagnosis.
Possibly. But checking FP or replacing a FP regulator when you are GM shouldn't be that hard. if a coil was bad then then you would know at idle. But this issue was under load it seems. I wonder if the techs even bothered to try and re gap the plugs just to trouble shoot for maybe a blow out issue as it seems other than a possible bad gas excuse... GM left that day not having a fix.


On the other hand how the hell do you not send at least 2 or 3 cars for such an event as simple back up when GM knows that the whole car world is watching the Laguna test. If you have an issue... send out an other. Sad really that team Vette could be so disorganized.

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Old 10-01-2015, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jvp
Or maybe the guys Motor Trend asked made a mistake in their initial diagnosis.
Did those guys work for GM?
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Remember there was a red car that was used for the cover shot. Why wasnt it used?

This whole thing is a disaster.

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Old 10-01-2015, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by GP1224
On the other hand how the hell do you not send at least 2 or 3 cars for such an event as simple back up when GM knows that the whole car world is watching the Laguna test. If you have an issue... send out an other. Sad really that team Vette could be so disorganized.
We had a 14-hour Chump race at Sebring last weekend. I would venture to say that over 95% of the those teams were more organized than General Motors, a company with $155b in revenue last year, was for this test.
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What a disappointment. Glad I kept my 10 C6Z, but to put things to perspective though.

Old 10-01-2015, 11:42 AM
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Does anyone else find it strange that Randy commented on how good the brakes and the grip was, but in the print article they disclosed the the pads were worn out? Not making excuses for GM (they definitely need to get their ***** together) but wouldn't Motor Trend (hell any track guy/gal) check brake pads and tires/wheels before going out on track and thus not drive a car if the pads were in fact not up to par? Not trying to be a conspiracy theorist but I found that a little strange.


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