Halltech Stinger RZ Installed, now a couple questions?
#1
Racer
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Halltech Stinger RZ Installed, now a couple questions?
Ok, I finished painting and installing the RZ today. I'm a bit concerned about a few things and hope some of you guys or maybe Jim can answer a couple questions. See picture below, but my questions are:
1. The radiator shroud is riding on top of the CAI in the red circled area. It doesn't want to let the shroud seat properly. I tightened up the shroud as much as I thought was reasonable. Is this normal???
2. I cable tied the outside (closest to the CAI) radiator hose to the inner hose so it pulled on top of slightly and up against the inner hose. However, the CAI is still pushing against the hose. I installed the silver insulator but that's just going to slow the heat transfer to the CAI box. Is this normal as well?
Not to bad for painting from spray cans...
1. The radiator shroud is riding on top of the CAI in the red circled area. It doesn't want to let the shroud seat properly. I tightened up the shroud as much as I thought was reasonable. Is this normal???
2. I cable tied the outside (closest to the CAI) radiator hose to the inner hose so it pulled on top of slightly and up against the inner hose. However, the CAI is still pushing against the hose. I installed the silver insulator but that's just going to slow the heat transfer to the CAI box. Is this normal as well?
Not to bad for painting from spray cans...
#3
Instructor
Link to the you tube video you mentioned would be great. I watched every video I saw available and saw nothing about the shroud trimming. For what it cost, I wasn't real happy with how it fit, coolant line routing, or lack of instructions included. There are several you tube videos, of which none cover the install from beginning to end.
#4
Melting Slicks
How's the power?
#5
Racer
Link to the you tube video you mentioned would be great. I watched every video I saw available and saw nothing about the shroud trimming. For what it cost, I wasn't real happy with how it fit, coolant line routing, or lack of instructions included. There are several you tube videos, of which none cover the install from beginning to end.
You can definetly feel the difference!!
#6
Instructor
Halltech
I also have same issue regarding pressure being applied to hood in this area where the intake box makes contact with the radiator scoop .Would like to trim it I guess, but not a trial and error method. nice increase in power .but now my sport cup 2 tires are showing much more wear "almost" bald after only 1500 miles on car .
#7
Instructor
I also have same issue regarding pressure being applied to hood in this area where the intake box makes contact with the radiator scoop .Would like to trim it I guess, but not a trial and error method. nice increase in power .but now my sport cup 2 tires are showing much more wear "almost" bald after only 1500 miles on car .
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Racer
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Finished last night so going out for some seat time today. Will report what it feels like.
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Ok, I finished painting and installing the RZ today. I'm a bit concerned about a few things and hope some of you guys or maybe Jim can answer a couple questions. See picture below, but my questions are:
1. The radiator shroud is riding on top of the CAI in the red circled area. It doesn't want to let the shroud seat properly. I tightened up the shroud as much as I thought was reasonable. Is this normal???
2. I cable tied the outside (closest to the CAI) radiator hose to the inner hose so it pulled on top of slightly and up against the inner hose. However, the CAI is still pushing against the hose. I installed the silver insulator but that's just going to slow the heat transfer to the CAI box. Is this normal as well?
Not to bad for painting from spray cans...
1. The radiator shroud is riding on top of the CAI in the red circled area. It doesn't want to let the shroud seat properly. I tightened up the shroud as much as I thought was reasonable. Is this normal???
2. I cable tied the outside (closest to the CAI) radiator hose to the inner hose so it pulled on top of slightly and up against the inner hose. However, the CAI is still pushing against the hose. I installed the silver insulator but that's just going to slow the heat transfer to the CAI box. Is this normal as well?
Not to bad for painting from spray cans...
You might try loosening the two retention bolts into the F-Panel and push down on the airbox (right side first) and retighten the bolts one at a time with downward pressure on the airbox to get it all the way down as far as possible. It should end up around 3/16" below the F-panel.
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Last edited by Halltech; 09-27-2015 at 11:47 AM.
#10
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That is where that rests, but it you want to keep the paint nice, I would trim the duct edge there.
You might try loosening the two retention bolts into the F-Panel and push down on the airbox (right side first) and retighten the bolts one at a time with downward pressure on the airbox to get it all the way down as far as possible. It should end up around 3/16" below the F-panel.
You might try loosening the two retention bolts into the F-Panel and push down on the airbox (right side first) and retighten the bolts one at a time with downward pressure on the airbox to get it all the way down as far as possible. It should end up around 3/16" below the F-panel.
I have what may be a dumb question - how do you separate the hard lines from the connector? Do you twist, tank or something different?
#11
Instructor
Pic of the cutter I used, worked perfectly.
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Instructor
#13
Supporting Vendor
I actually cut that plastic hose with a rubber line cutter. Left about 3/4" of smooth plastic line, so I could slip the supplied rubber hose on. There were no hose clamps supplied, but I think I might get some as I don't want that line slipping off once the cooling system builds pressure.
Pic of the cutter I used, worked perfectly.
Pic of the cutter I used, worked perfectly.
#14
Instructor
Unfortunately, that's what has to be done to get the rubber line installed. I felt the same way. Figure if needing to go back to stock, I'll replace that hard plastic line assembly completely.
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St. Jude Donor '14-'15-'16
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These are the exact two issue I had with my unit despite watching every video there was to watch. In the end, nothing was unclear to me it just didn't seem to fit as well as I would have liked. I currently have it sitting in a box and never ran the car with it on. I'm sure it's awesome and all and maybe in the future I'll put one on but as of now the install made me lose my interest in it. That said, customer service was A+ all the way.
If anyone wants it let me know. It has zero miles on it.
Best,
Gene
If anyone wants it let me know. It has zero miles on it.
Best,
Gene
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Well I persevered and got it installed, but I am not the least bit impressed as I thought the C6 Vararam was better constructed.
Rather than cutting that hard plastic line I removed the entire thing (the long and short hard plastic lines as well as the short rubber one) and replaced it with flexible rubber hose all the way back along with a new plastic tee and some hose clamps I picked up from Napa Auto Parts.
I was unable to figure out how to properly tighten the filter element to the MAF tube though. In order to even fit the filter into the housing it has to be squished quite a bit and then once it's inside, I saw no way of being able to get either a small wrench or screwdriver down in there. As it is right now it's fairly snug but I have no idea if it'll stay in place. Is there a trick to tightening it or have other people had the same issue?
There were several other things that also bothered me but these were the main ones. If I don't pick up at least three tenths this Wednesday night it'll be coming off again first thing Thursday morning.
Rather than cutting that hard plastic line I removed the entire thing (the long and short hard plastic lines as well as the short rubber one) and replaced it with flexible rubber hose all the way back along with a new plastic tee and some hose clamps I picked up from Napa Auto Parts.
I was unable to figure out how to properly tighten the filter element to the MAF tube though. In order to even fit the filter into the housing it has to be squished quite a bit and then once it's inside, I saw no way of being able to get either a small wrench or screwdriver down in there. As it is right now it's fairly snug but I have no idea if it'll stay in place. Is there a trick to tightening it or have other people had the same issue?
There were several other things that also bothered me but these were the main ones. If I don't pick up at least three tenths this Wednesday night it'll be coming off again first thing Thursday morning.
#17
Instructor
Well I persevered and got it installed, but I am not the least bit impressed as I thought the C6 Vararam was better constructed.
Rather than cutting that hard plastic line I removed the entire thing (the long and short hard plastic lines as well as the short rubber one) and replaced it with flexible rubber hose all the way back along with a new plastic tee and some hose clamps I picked up from Napa Auto Parts.
I was unable to figure out how to properly tighten the filter element to the MAF tube though. In order to even fit the filter into the housing it has to be squished quite a bit and then once it's inside, I saw no way of being able to get either a small wrench or screwdriver down in there. As it is right now it's fairly snug but I have no idea if it'll stay in place. Is there a trick to tightening it or have other people had the same issue?
There were several other things that also bothered me but these were the main ones. If I don't pick up at least three tenths this Wednesday night it'll be coming off again first thing Thursday morning.
Rather than cutting that hard plastic line I removed the entire thing (the long and short hard plastic lines as well as the short rubber one) and replaced it with flexible rubber hose all the way back along with a new plastic tee and some hose clamps I picked up from Napa Auto Parts.
I was unable to figure out how to properly tighten the filter element to the MAF tube though. In order to even fit the filter into the housing it has to be squished quite a bit and then once it's inside, I saw no way of being able to get either a small wrench or screwdriver down in there. As it is right now it's fairly snug but I have no idea if it'll stay in place. Is there a trick to tightening it or have other people had the same issue?
There were several other things that also bothered me but these were the main ones. If I don't pick up at least three tenths this Wednesday night it'll be coming off again first thing Thursday morning.
#18
Instructor
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Like I stated earlier, simple install just needed a little tweaking. This wakes the car up, nice construction compared to the crap vararam intake on my c5. Glad to get rid of the vararam when I went supercharged. Like Jim stated loosen bolts on box and push down while tightening until around 3/16 step down from frame.
#19
Racer
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Well I persevered and got it installed, but I am not the least bit impressed as I thought the C6 Vararam was better constructed.
Rather than cutting that hard plastic line I removed the entire thing (the long and short hard plastic lines as well as the short rubber one) and replaced it with flexible rubber hose all the way back along with a new plastic tee and some hose clamps I picked up from Napa Auto Parts.
I was unable to figure out how to properly tighten the filter element to the MAF tube though. In order to even fit the filter into the housing it has to be squished quite a bit and then once it's inside, I saw no way of being able to get either a small wrench or screwdriver down in there. As it is right now it's fairly snug but I have no idea if it'll stay in place. Is there a trick to tightening it or have other people had the same issue?
There were several other things that also bothered me but these were the main ones. If I don't pick up at least three tenths this Wednesday night it'll be coming off again first thing Thursday morning.
Rather than cutting that hard plastic line I removed the entire thing (the long and short hard plastic lines as well as the short rubber one) and replaced it with flexible rubber hose all the way back along with a new plastic tee and some hose clamps I picked up from Napa Auto Parts.
I was unable to figure out how to properly tighten the filter element to the MAF tube though. In order to even fit the filter into the housing it has to be squished quite a bit and then once it's inside, I saw no way of being able to get either a small wrench or screwdriver down in there. As it is right now it's fairly snug but I have no idea if it'll stay in place. Is there a trick to tightening it or have other people had the same issue?
There were several other things that also bothered me but these were the main ones. If I don't pick up at least three tenths this Wednesday night it'll be coming off again first thing Thursday morning.
#20
Racer
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Update After 24 hours
After sitting overnight with the hood closed, I opened it this morning to do a last check before taking it for a drive. I found two significant marks on the top of the filer box where the hood cowl was pressing on it. Since the paint wasn't full cured, it basically flattened out the paint in the two contact areas. Very disappointing. I tried to loosen the mounting bolts and push the box down, but it was as low as it goes.
The I took it for about an hour drive. I didn't notice much yet, but I understand that the computer takes a bit to recalibrate, I got home and opened the hood to find several areas of paint damage. The two that I noted above, plus two spots where the shroud is laying on the box and the hood cowl was obviously pushing it into the box.
At this point, all I could think to do was put some 3m film over the top of the box to try to protect the paint.
If anyone else is considering paint your CAI, I would tell you not to bother.
The I took it for about an hour drive. I didn't notice much yet, but I understand that the computer takes a bit to recalibrate, I got home and opened the hood to find several areas of paint damage. The two that I noted above, plus two spots where the shroud is laying on the box and the hood cowl was obviously pushing it into the box.
At this point, all I could think to do was put some 3m film over the top of the box to try to protect the paint.
If anyone else is considering paint your CAI, I would tell you not to bother.