Z06 C7.R vs 2016 Viper ACR
05-08-2015, 08:43 PM
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If you think about it, SRT's claim that this is not a "1-3 lap track special" applies to the Porsche 918 as well, which is the Laguna Seca lap record holder. The Porsche is likely to be faster one lap but that's it. It has to do the record by expunging all the juice in the batteries. After that the Viper will have it behind every lap.
The P1 does not have the traction to beat the Viper. I think traction will win between FMR platform vehicles. Equal aero between the P1 and Viper but the Viper has more mechanical grip. I'm pretty sure the McLaren might be heavier too if weighed on the same scale with fluids.
The P1 does not have the traction to beat the Viper. I think traction will win between FMR platform vehicles. Equal aero between the P1 and Viper but the Viper has more mechanical grip. I'm pretty sure the McLaren might be heavier too if weighed on the same scale with fluids.
Interesting times we live in.
I wonder if this will force Chevys hand to build a more extreme track car, instead of just putting stickers on a Z06 and calling it the C7.R.
At least when Dodge builds their ACR of the Viper it does it right. The C7.R is a disappointment, personally.
05-08-2015, 08:51 PM
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Oh without a doubt it was a swing at Chevy, P1, 918 all together.
Interesting times we live in.
I wonder if this will force Chevys hand to build a more extreme track car, instead of just putting stickers on a Z06 and calling it the C7.R.
At least when Dodge builds their ACR of the Viper it does it right. The C7.R is a disappointment, personally.
Interesting times we live in.
I wonder if this will force Chevys hand to build a more extreme track car, instead of just putting stickers on a Z06 and calling it the C7.R.
At least when Dodge builds their ACR of the Viper it does it right. The C7.R is a disappointment, personally.
05-08-2015, 08:53 PM
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Honestly, the Z06 just needs better built quality. The right comparison is still Viper TA vs. Z06 if you are shopping for the same category of car like most of us do. The ACR is in the Speciale and Ultraleggera category - cars that give up a serious amount of amenities for a bit of extra speed.
05-08-2015, 09:07 PM
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Let's face it guys, the ACR is much closer to a real race car than the Z06. It uses massive downforce to go fast (like real race cars), and because of that it most likely will be faster.
That said, the compromises are SIGNIFICANT. But for a track toy, it will be amazing, I'm sure.
I just really like having car nearly as fast that I can drive to work, get groceries, and take road trips in. Don't forget what the Z06 really is... the ultimate usable supercar.
That said, the compromises are SIGNIFICANT. But for a track toy, it will be amazing, I'm sure.
I just really like having car nearly as fast that I can drive to work, get groceries, and take road trips in. Don't forget what the Z06 really is... the ultimate usable supercar.
05-08-2015, 09:30 PM
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The ACR is likely going to decimate pretty much anything on the track and shatter records everywhere it goes. The buyer of this car isn't cross shopping it with a Z06 IMO. They are two very different cars with very different purposes. One is a completely dedicated track car you can drive on the street and the other is an incredible street car you can drive on the track.
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05-09-2015, 01:44 AM
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Drifting
I'm trying to figure out why people keep acting like the C7.R Edition Z06 is anything other than an appearance package. The car is a Z07 with a Jake decal on the hood. The ACR Viper is a hard core track car that hardly anyone wants to live with for day to day driving. The Viper will be good for its intended purpose and it should be. No comparison between the two cars imo. They just have different purposes overall. I think Chevy wasted the C7.R name on this car. It would've been cool had this car been a hard core track machine like the ACR. But using that storied name just for a decal and some sill plates is kinda lame.
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05-09-2015, 02:24 AM
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Team Owner
I'm trying to figure out why people keep acting like the C7.R Edition Z06 is anything other than an appearance package. The car is a Z07 with a Jake decal on the hood. The ACR Viper is a hard core track car that hardly anyone wants to live with for day to day driving. The Viper will be good for its intended purpose and it should be. No comparison between the two cars imo. They just have different purposes overall. I think Chevy wasted the C7.R name on this car. It would've been cool had this car been a hard core track machine like the ACR. But using that storied name just for a decal and some sill plates is kinda lame.
05-09-2015, 03:18 AM
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05-09-2015, 05:26 AM
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Chevy is missing the boat on this one...make a cup car like the acr for those of us that we track the car, not just the goofy sticker. Since you like to bench mark Porsche (Chevy) do it right, don't go back to your old ways, (the greedy sub quality products that got you into bankruptcy)
You made a world class car with the C7, if you are going to call your top model C7R (racing edition) make it one!
You made a world class car with the C7, if you are going to call your top model C7R (racing edition) make it one!
05-09-2015, 05:30 AM
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I'm trying to figure out why people keep acting like the C7.R Edition Z06 is anything other than an appearance package. The car is a Z07 with a Jake decal on the hood. The ACR Viper is a hard core track car that hardly anyone wants to live with for day to day driving. The Viper will be good for its intended purpose and it should be. No comparison between the two cars imo. They just have different purposes overall. I think Chevy wasted the C7.R name on this car. It would've been cool had this car been a hard core track machine like the ACR. But using that storied name just for a decal and some sill plates is kinda lame.
05-09-2015, 06:21 AM
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For those that keep saying the ACR can't be driven every day you are totally wrong and anyone who has owned an ACR will tell you the same thing.
What is comical is whether it be an ACR or a Z06 who would want to drive it everyday anyway, real sports cars should be driven as a treat not a DD.
The fact is you can cry about wings and use ability all you want, the ACR will set the bar real high and GM has never had an answer for it.
What is comical is whether it be an ACR or a Z06 who would want to drive it everyday anyway, real sports cars should be driven as a treat not a DD.
The fact is you can cry about wings and use ability all you want, the ACR will set the bar real high and GM has never had an answer for it.
05-09-2015, 06:45 AM
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Everyone was worried that the Z07 package was going to be so rough that it would only be good for the track and that was proven false.
05-09-2015, 06:51 AM
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Drifting
I think it loses to the new Z06! A8 or M7! In straight line then there still putting V-10's Please buy 1 then check back and give us a report.
Cause there is not 1 bone in my body that wants one.
I'm traveling a few 1000 miles with mine soon. Getting 25 MPH!
In comfort.
The Viper is piece of crap for that! Oh no radio! either and lumpy ride .
The 12 mpg highway this Viper is going to get is making a gas thirsty track car. I heard the track gas is expensive.
If it beats the Z06 after a few laps who cares. It is not going to break the Z06 single laps time EVER! This car needs to compared to the C7
real track car. If want you talk tracking.
Cause there is not 1 bone in my body that wants one.
I'm traveling a few 1000 miles with mine soon. Getting 25 MPH!
In comfort.
The Viper is piece of crap for that! Oh no radio! either and lumpy ride .
The 12 mpg highway this Viper is going to get is making a gas thirsty track car. I heard the track gas is expensive.
If it beats the Z06 after a few laps who cares. It is not going to break the Z06 single laps time EVER! This car needs to compared to the C7
real track car. If want you talk tracking.
Must be one of those people who has no idea what he is talking about or is one of those people who subscribes to wax daily group.
I guess if you can't talk track, talk smack. This new ACR is a car built for those who track their car and yet all you can do is talk about how soft and cushy your ride is. Maybe you should go to the waxxer section.
05-09-2015, 06:58 AM
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Burning Brakes
So, can the Z06 C7.R take down the 2016 Viper ACR?
I've been reading the options list for the C7.R, but it's hard to find the equipment that will make this model live up the name. So we have this:
C7.R Edition graphics package
Yellow brake calipers
Black wheels with yellow accent strip and Corvette Racing-logo center caps
New visible carbon fiber hood section
Yellow contrast stitching throughout the interio
Corvette Racing sill plates
Numbered C7.R Edition interior plaque showing the build number, starting with VIN 700001
vs
"The Extreme Aero rear wing, specifically designed for air flow around the Viper's body, stands taller, sits further rearward and features unique end-plates and gurney lip to produce maximum downforce while minimizing straight line drag."
"This car is not a 1-3 lap track special. You can run the car at the track all day, and the performance doesn't fall off."
"All Vipers are engineered to withstand severe track duty in ambient temperatures of 100 degrees Fahrenheit with a professional driver."
I've been reading the options list for the C7.R, but it's hard to find the equipment that will make this model live up the name. So we have this:
C7.R Edition graphics package
Yellow brake calipers
Black wheels with yellow accent strip and Corvette Racing-logo center caps
New visible carbon fiber hood section
Yellow contrast stitching throughout the interio
Corvette Racing sill plates
Numbered C7.R Edition interior plaque showing the build number, starting with VIN 700001
vs
"The Extreme Aero rear wing, specifically designed for air flow around the Viper's body, stands taller, sits further rearward and features unique end-plates and gurney lip to produce maximum downforce while minimizing straight line drag."
"This car is not a 1-3 lap track special. You can run the car at the track all day, and the performance doesn't fall off."
"All Vipers are engineered to withstand severe track duty in ambient temperatures of 100 degrees Fahrenheit with a professional driver."
Are you buying one or the othe. What's your point
05-09-2015, 07:00 AM
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Drifting
Well those that thought it would be too rough are the ones who spend their time waxing and discussing mpg instead of actual track capabilities.