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Old 03-16-2015, 01:34 PM
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Got a flat, dealer just told me my Z06's flat will take an indefinite amount of time because the tire is on national backorder. like... maybe a week, maybe a month. maybe more.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

Does anyone here have a connection to where I can find a new tire for my Z06? I have a hard time believing that this is going to keep me off the road for weeks.
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Originally Posted by ag138
Got a flat, dealer just told me my Z06's flat will take an indefinite amount of time because the tire is on national backorder. like... maybe a week, maybe a month. maybe more.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

Does anyone here have a connection to where I can find a new tire for my Z06? I have a hard time believing that this is going to keep me off the road for weeks.
Just to make sure he is right call the tire rack and see what they say.
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Wow......had suspected this could potentially be a problem. OP, have you seen any other threads on this subject?.....I don't mean the cracked tires....I mean the lack of replacements.....
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A few weeks ago my local Chevy dealer ordered me a rear run flat for a Z51. Dealer said that those tires had just been released to the dealers.
Took a week to get it. No charge, since I had the road hazard warranty.
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What caused the flat??? Dealer told me, if he could get one, $800.00. Took it to a local tire shop and they plugged it. No problem since. About 600 miles on it. I probably wouldn't do this if I was going to track or do high speed runs, but for normal street driving, I have no problem plugging it (rear tire). It was a nail straight in the treads. If it was a side wall puncture, no way. BTW, the tires are OEM run flats.
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What caused the flat??? Dealer told me, if he could get one, $800.00. Took it to a local tire shop and they plugged it. No problem since. About 600 miles on it. I probably wouldn't do this if I was going to track or do high speed runs, but for normal street driving, I have no problem plugging it (rear tire). It was a nail straight in the treads. If it was a side wall puncture, no way. BTW, the tires are OEM run flats.
yea well mine was a screw too close to the edge to get patched. I got screwed literally and figuratively.

guys are telling me ~$550 which is whatever, expensive... but it's the time I'm more annoyed about.
Old 03-16-2015, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitemare9
What caused the flat??? Dealer told me, if he could get one, $800.00. Took it to a local tire shop and they plugged it. No problem since. About 600 miles on it. I probably wouldn't do this if I was going to track or do high speed runs, but for normal street driving, I have no problem plugging it (rear tire). It was a nail straight in the treads. If it was a side wall puncture, no way. BTW, the tires are OEM run flats.
I had a very large nail and the tire went immediately to 21 lbs, and gradually down from there as it sat in the garage.

I was told that a run flat can, or should be patched once. Once it has been patched you no longer have the speed rating specked on the tire..

This was the information I got.
btw. Run flats take a special patch. Looks like a tack ?

The total for new tire mounting and balancing. was 565.89 and my wheel came back damaged.

Chevy used Tire pro's and they had to pay to have my wheel refinished.

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Originally Posted by DLC7
Wow......had suspected this could potentially be a problem. OP, have you seen any other threads on this subject?.....I don't mean the cracked tires....I mean the lack of replacements.....
I did look and found nothing on the subject.
Old 03-16-2015, 01:55 PM
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Just checked Tirerack.com. Pilot Super Sports: fronts ($439) in stock, rears ($511) not available until 3/31/2015; Pilot Sport Cup 2s: fronts ($481) and rears ($584) in stock.
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so looking at the spec sheet - not clear to me which is stock.

I see "Michelin Pilot Super Sport ZP summer-only tires 335/25ZR20 rear" on the spec sheet.
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so looking at the spec sheet - not clear to me which is stock.

I see "Michelin Pilot Super Sport ZP summer-only tires 335/25ZR20 rear" on the spec sheet.
actually yea, just talked to the guys at tire rack and they have the same scenario. 2 weeks.

f**king unreal.
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Take a look at this Goodyear document. It's talking about Goodyear EMTs like on the C6, but the info about whether a tire is repairable or not, and the procedure to repair it, should be similar for all RunOnFlat, ZP, P-Zero, etc., runflats from all the manufacturers:

http://www.goodyear.com/cfmx/web/gov...e/psb_9811.cfm

Also, you can read in there that if only one puncture of not more than 1/4 inch diameter has been properly repaired, the tire will retain its speed rating.

II. DETAILED POLICY - Puncture Repair of Speed-Rated Tires
A. The puncture must be confined to the tread area only.
(See "Repair Area", item III-B).

B. Restrictions on the number and size of repairs must be followed.
(See "Puncture Repair Limits" table, item III-C).

C. A detailed repair procedure must be followed.
(See "Repair Procedure", item III-E).

D. A speed-rated tire repaired in strict accordance with items II-A, B & C will retain its speed rating.
I have run properly repaired runflats on my C6 Z06 at high speeds at Daytona with no concern or problem.

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Well it does say it can only be done once.
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It took me two weeks to get tires when mine got stolen, that's the status quo on these tires right now.
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Originally Posted by schlok
It took me two weeks to get tires when mine got stolen, that's the status quo on these tires right now.
that's crazy... explains why they were stolen.
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I was in your situation and Discount Tire found a new one in a couple of days
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after spending 30+ years in the auto repair/tire industry i can
honestly say i have repaired (patch/plug) thousands of run-flat
tires without any problems. typical tire shops will say they are
not repairable or harp on the whole speed rating thing because
they want to sell you a new tire !

the fact is tire speed ratings mean the tire is rated for a specific
speed continuously for one hour minimum before potential
failure from heat etc. the rear Z06 tires for example are
335/25-ZR20 with a service rating of (99Y) which means it
it rated for 186 Mph. so if this tire is patched does that mean
it's now only good for 170 or even 150, how often does the
average Z06 owner plan on hitting 150+ for an hour straight ?

if you think about it logically, 97% of the difference between
a standard tire and run-flat is the sidewall so why is it any
less repairable than a standard tire as long as the puncture
is in the tread area. both types are garbage if the sidewall
is damaged.

repair your run-flats and don't think twice about !

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very interesting. anyone have experience to support this idea? no offense, but I'd feel like an idiot for trying this with my only source being one random guy on the internet. now a few more random guys on the internet and we're talking!
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I brought home my brand new Nissan GTR once and got a large screw in the tread up next to the outside edge less than a mile from my house. Pulled into driveway with the tire flat. Took it off car and to local tire shop. They used a patch plug. It was a patch from the inside with a small plug sticking out. Worked fine. I even tracked the car until the tires wore completely out never a single issue. I say patch plug it.
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I have a 2006 XLR with run flats and I have had them patched several times, except if the nail or screw is in the sidewall. With that said my Z06 was just built and I went to the dealer to pay for it before I go to the NCM for museum delivery on March 25th and the dealer told me you cannot repair the run flats on the Z06 period. He told me that in connection with offering me a tire and rim protection package which I am seriously considering getting but in large part on his statement that the Z06 tires cannot be patched and that the cost of one of them including mounting and balancing is about $800, not sure that is true either. Now I am wondering if what he told me is BS and the tires can be patched. Although the amount of tread on them is quite thin so I am not sure how the patch would hold.

Is there anyone out there who has a definitive answer on the patch question ?

I think I might go ahead with the tire and rim warranty and see if the dealer is willing to put in writing that the warranty will cover tire replacement in all cases when the tire has a puncture from a any source in any area of the tire. Any thoughts about this idea ?


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