The real question... Failure or no?
12-16-2014, 04:42 PM
#21
The C6 Z06 when it launched in 2005 was the absolute benchmark, and has been since then in many respects. Even this new generation is being matched up against the C6, and really not beating it's performance figures by much, with the gap closing in acceleration.
Let's face it, you don't buy the Z06 if you want the luxury interior as a prerequisite. You buy this car because you want the fastest street legal machine on street or track with all the bragging rights and magazine praise.. OK It is nice to by cozy in the process.
But if you're buying this car for comfort and luxury first. You'll probably be just as happy in a loaded base C7.
The problem is, the competition has bridged the gap so much, while the walls are closing in on manufacturers with emissions and what not.
I personally feel this car is a failure. Here is why:The fact that the OP even feels compelled to write this. Says it all. The fact that we need to tune to make it keep up is a failure. Now this doesn't mean it's not a great car to cruise with and to play with. But the prime reason and
BOTTOM LINE:
This car has mostly failed at its main task. Being fast and consistent on a race track. I don't care about one lap wonders. Not having Nurburgring lap times probably tells us the car dies on mile 6. I hope they realize and build a monster NA motor for the LCI. Until then I'm shopping Vipers.
Let's face it, you don't buy the Z06 if you want the luxury interior as a prerequisite. You buy this car because you want the fastest street legal machine on street or track with all the bragging rights and magazine praise.. OK It is nice to by cozy in the process.
But if you're buying this car for comfort and luxury first. You'll probably be just as happy in a loaded base C7.
The problem is, the competition has bridged the gap so much, while the walls are closing in on manufacturers with emissions and what not.
I personally feel this car is a failure. Here is why:The fact that the OP even feels compelled to write this. Says it all. The fact that we need to tune to make it keep up is a failure. Now this doesn't mean it's not a great car to cruise with and to play with. But the prime reason and
BOTTOM LINE:
This car has mostly failed at its main task. Being fast and consistent on a race track. I don't care about one lap wonders. Not having Nurburgring lap times probably tells us the car dies on mile 6. I hope they realize and build a monster NA motor for the LCI. Until then I'm shopping Vipers.
12-16-2014, 04:58 PM
#22
Safety Car
May I suggest that the folks who have decided that they have absolutely no interest in the car get off the forum? If you don't like the car, won't consider buying one, and think those of us who own one are fools, then let us know how you feel and then go elsewhere. Please don't hang around and start a half-dozen threads a day to tell us that we're posers for buying it and the magazines are misguided for praising it. It would be nice if Z06 owners and prospective owners could have a little forum of their own to talk about the car without plowing through blizzards of complaints about what an abject failure it is as an automobile.
12-16-2014, 06:14 PM
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12-16-2014, 06:16 PM
#26
Le Mans Master
Which is what it will be in a year!
12-16-2014, 06:33 PM
#27
Burning Brakes
The sales data is going to tell you if the car is a failure or not, and I'm betting it will be a home run for the General.
12-16-2014, 07:51 PM
#28
Drifting
The C6 Z06 when it launched in 2005 was the absolute benchmark, and has been since then in many respects. Even this new generation is being matched up against the C6, and really not beating it's performance figures by much, with the gap closing in acceleration.
Let's face it, you don't buy the Z06 if you want the luxury interior as a prerequisite. You buy this car because you want the fastest street legal machine on street or track with all the bragging rights and magazine praise.. OK It is nice to by cozy in the process.
But if you're buying this car for comfort and luxury first. You'll probably be just as happy in a loaded base C7.
The problem is, the competition has bridged the gap so much, while the walls are closing in on manufacturers with emissions and what not.
I personally feel this car is a failure. Here is why:The fact that the OP even feels compelled to write this. Says it all. The fact that we need to tune to make it keep up is a failure. Now this doesn't mean it's not a great car to cruise with and to play with. But the prime reason and
BOTTOM LINE:
This car has mostly failed at its main task. Being fast and consistent on a race track. I don't care about one lap wonders. Not having Nurburgring lap times probably tells us the car dies on mile 6. I hope they realize and build a monster NA motor for the LCI. Until then I'm shopping Vipers.
Let's face it, you don't buy the Z06 if you want the luxury interior as a prerequisite. You buy this car because you want the fastest street legal machine on street or track with all the bragging rights and magazine praise.. OK It is nice to by cozy in the process.
But if you're buying this car for comfort and luxury first. You'll probably be just as happy in a loaded base C7.
The problem is, the competition has bridged the gap so much, while the walls are closing in on manufacturers with emissions and what not.
I personally feel this car is a failure. Here is why:The fact that the OP even feels compelled to write this. Says it all. The fact that we need to tune to make it keep up is a failure. Now this doesn't mean it's not a great car to cruise with and to play with. But the prime reason and
BOTTOM LINE:
This car has mostly failed at its main task. Being fast and consistent on a race track. I don't care about one lap wonders. Not having Nurburgring lap times probably tells us the car dies on mile 6. I hope they realize and build a monster NA motor for the LCI. Until then I'm shopping Vipers.
12-16-2014, 08:00 PM
#29
All the noise in the world good bad or indifferent has zero value.... But for great humour......
It is really a simple equation. If they reach their sales goals then absolutely nothing in this ether matters one way or the other.
I'm sure some the more seasoned folk on here will laugh at how the more things change the more they stay the same...I would imagine in the 60's this same type of stuff went on but not quite so prevalent without the web.
12-16-2014, 08:07 PM
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12-16-2014, 08:13 PM
#31
May I suggest that the folks who have decided that they have absolutely no interest in the car get off the forum? If you don't like the car, won't consider buying one, and think those of us who own one are fools, then let us know how you feel and then go elsewhere. Please don't hang around and start a half-dozen threads a day to tell us that we're posers for buying it and the magazines are misguided for praising it. It would be nice if Z06 owners and prospective owners could have a little forum of their own to talk about the car without plowing through blizzards of complaints about what an abject failure it is as an automobile.
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On that note i have every right to come here and express my frustration with the car. Ive owned 3 z06s and adore the lineage and feel let down. Stay off the forum if you are feeling that fragile!
12-16-2014, 09:10 PM
#33
Le Mans Master
SPEED: In the grand scheme of things C6 Z06, C6 ZR1, C7 Z06 are in the fast group. The small differences here and there may be a big deal for a forum bench racer or some kid posting comments on you tube but for someone that signs up for events it won't matter that much.
12-16-2014, 09:29 PM
#34
Le Mans Master
A track car should be able to go out on the track with a full tank of gasoline and stay out on the track until it is out of gasoline without overheating or heat soaking any component.
12-16-2014, 09:34 PM
#35
Drifting
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On that note i have every right to come here and express my frustration with the car. Ive owned 3 z06s and adore the lineage and feel let down. Stay off the forum if you are feeling that fragile!
ˈfôrəm/
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1.
a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.
On that note i have every right to come here and express my frustration with the car. Ive owned 3 z06s and adore the lineage and feel let down. Stay off the forum if you are feeling that fragile!
12-16-2014, 09:35 PM
#36
Drifting
12-16-2014, 09:39 PM
#37
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Well that would eliminate a factory, non CCB, C6Z or Viper, as I've seen road course drivers of sufficient skill capable of smoking the brakes on those inside of one session.
12-16-2014, 09:50 PM
#38
Drifting
...yes, part of the reason I've been frequenting the C7 Z06 forum...posts - yeah, alot of criticism 
- about the newest Corvette's performance...I'm a big fan of the car!
When available, I look forward to driving this car at Spring Mountain.
12-16-2014, 09:51 PM
#39
Safety Car
Viper, the car that is about to get SUPERCHARGED itself.
Viper, the car that cooks its brakes and its passengers. Bake on the inside, fry on the side exhausts.
Viper, the car that scares even pro-drivers.
That Viper?
The GTR needed trans cooling and brake cooling.
The FRS/BRZ needed engine cooler.
The 350Z needed both an engine cooler and brake cooling.
The Mustang always needs better brakes.
The Miatas come auto, so I presume you can always cook one with the right transmission.
Most BMW 3 Series don't come with an LSD.
The V8 BMW M3 that cooks its brakes with its one piston calipers.
12-16-2014, 09:55 PM
#40
Burning Brakes
