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Old 12-10-2014, 08:35 PM
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I think this dead horse has officially passed through China and is about to hit the moon right now.

Holy **** are people butt hurt on this forum. It's turning into the Subaru community.
Old 12-10-2014, 08:38 PM
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Post #6 is the clear winner.

Tears for fears....hahahahahahahahahahaha. To the moon, Alice!




Next you guys will be requested to video wife swapping...
Old 12-10-2014, 08:39 PM
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Nspec owns a 2013 Viper GTS and the Z06. He says we can run them again, I'll drive the Z06 and he'll drive his Viper. That way, he gets to win, either way.

So, add that to the lineup of races I posted above.

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Old 12-10-2014, 08:41 PM
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I watched the video and the driver of the Z06 was shifting fine, the Viper is faster period in the real world as is the ZR1 and both probably by a good bit in a straight line and I have experience with both the Viper and the ZR1 and they can both dip well into the 10's in the 1/4 mile. I think you buy a Z06 because you like the car and all the engineering and technology improvements not because you want to hunt Vipers or ZR1's because if that's your goal your going to get your feelings hurt on the street and the track, any track not just the drag strip.
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Originally Posted by jamie furman
I watched the video and the driver of the Z06 was shifting fine, the Viper is faster period in the real world as is the ZR1 and both probably by a good bit in a straight line and I have experience with both the Viper and the ZR1 and they can both dip well into the 10's in the 1/4 mile. I think you buy a Z06 because you like the car and all the engineering and technology improvements not because you want to hunt Vipers or ZR1's because if that's your goal your going to get your feelings hurt on the street and the track, any track not just the drag strip.
There you have it from one of the resident ZR1 racing experts. #3 on the ZR1 fast list,all stock: 10.794@132.21 1.80 I would think he knows what he is talking about.
Old 12-10-2014, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jamie furman
I watched the video and the driver of the Z06 was shifting fine, the Viper is faster period in the real world as is the ZR1 and both probably by a good bit in a straight line and I have experience with both the Viper and the ZR1 and they can both dip well into the 10's in the 1/4 mile. I think you buy a Z06 because you like the car and all the engineering and technology improvements not because you want to hunt Vipers or ZR1's because if that's your goal your going to get your feelings hurt on the street and the track, any track not just the drag strip.
Man, bringing them out of the woodwork . Where have you been and what are you driving now?
Old 12-10-2014, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NineBall
This. Some of you focus too much on the actual shifts, but aren't watching what happens while both cars are IN gear. The cars hang side by side until about the middle of 3rd gear. Then the Viper starts to pull ahead. In 4th gear, the Viper pulls away even harder. Definitely 4th gear is where the biggest difference occurs, regardless of where the shift happened.

Instead of paying attention to the car length(s) that the Corvette lost by, pay more attention to how both cars accelerate when in gear. Even if you found the best driver and he was able to shift like crazy, you can't overcome the Viper pulling away while in gear. A good driver doesn't defy physics and increase acceleration rates, he only makes the shift point quicker.

As for the original question, I have a few more willing candidates who are friends that want to make some videos. This won't happen this weekend, since we are going out of town to road race at COTA. But, maybe next week. This includes:

Another new Z06/Z07 (delivered today, excellent driver)
Another new Viper TA (400 miles on it, stock, newer driver)
My Viper TA (without alien or devine intervention modifications)
Stock ZR1 (excellent driver)

We will line all sorts of stuff up. Just be prepared, if the outcome isn't what you WANT to see. We'll report the good and the bad, however it works out.

Like we always do.

Tony
What day are ya'll hitting COTA-I built it-LOL (I built the DTM surface for my firm) would love to meet up and drool on yer Z until my build next month!!
Old 12-10-2014, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mdm23
The obsession with this Z06 vs Viper issue is getting a little weird.
100%
Old 12-10-2014, 09:13 PM
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This is like tying to watch a porno twice....boring.
Old 12-10-2014, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jamie furman
I watched the video and the driver of the Z06 was shifting fine, the Viper is faster period in the real world as is the ZR1 and both probably by a good bit in a straight line and I have experience with both the Viper and the ZR1 and they can both dip well into the 10's in the 1/4 mile. I think you buy a Z06 because you like the car and all the engineering and technology improvements not because you want to hunt Vipers or ZR1's because if that's your goal your going to get your feelings hurt on the street and the track, any track not just the drag strip.
THANK YOU.

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Old 12-10-2014, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by racerns
Man, bringing them out of the woodwork . Where have you been and what are you driving now?
Still around, I just don't comment on the site much. I don't drag race as much but I do still do a little bit, I road race a lot now instead its a lot more fun and last longer! I see all the guys at Mir 2 or 3 times a year whether I take a car or not at the private rentals. I still have all my cars and stuff.

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Old 12-10-2014, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jamie furman
I watched the video and the driver of the Z06 was shifting fine, the Viper is faster period in the real world as is the ZR1 and both probably by a good bit in a straight line and I have experience with both the Viper and the ZR1 and they can both dip well into the 10's in the 1/4 mile. I think you buy a Z06 because you like the car and all the engineering and technology improvements not because you want to hunt Vipers or ZR1's because if that's your goal your going to get your feelings hurt on the street and the track, any track not just the drag strip.
I agree but must also add that a bone stock C7 Z06 will also dip well into the 10s in the 1/4 mile as well, at least the automatics will.
Now, will they beat Kyle's 10.66 pass in his C6 ZR1?
That I can't answer right now.
But I do believe that in good air at prepped track a few manual C7 Z06s will get into the 10s and that the automatics will even get a few tenths into the 10s as well, both at over 130mph.
Old 12-10-2014, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
I agree but must also add that a bone stock C7 Z06 will also dip well into the 10s in the 1/4 mile as well, at least the automatics will.
Now, will they beat Kyle's 10.66 pass in his C6 ZR1?
That I can't answer right now.
But I do believe that in good air at prepped track a few manual C7 Z06s will get into the 10s and that the automatics will even get a few tenths into the 10s as well, both at over 130mph.
How do you know that? The HP to WGT says no.
Old 12-10-2014, 09:24 PM
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With current said issues, how are you confident that will happen with a bone stock Z?
Old 12-10-2014, 09:30 PM
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Just use a "tuned only" Z06. So we dont run into any ECM timing heat issues. This would be fair. Otherwise, theres a hand tied being the Z06's back.

I will bet on the Z winning in this scenario.
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Naw, fair would suggest a "tuned only" Vette racing a "tuned only" Viper.

We've seen what they both do with factory handcuffs, so both should be unlocked to be fair. And THAT should be an interesting race!
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Originally Posted by JackTripper
Just use a "tuned only" Z06. So we dont run into any ECM timing heat issues. This would be fair. Otherwise, theres a hand tied being the Z06's back.

I will bet on the Z winning in this scenario.
I'm glad you don't (hopefully) compete in organized racing. Doing a custom tune on a car means that the performance level is no longer "stock". Just FYI, but Vipers also pick up 30-40 rwhp once they have a more aggressive tune done. That goes for just about any high performance car.

We are talking stock vs stock here. What people want to see, what magazines test, and so on. Comparing modded cars means nothing.

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Originally Posted by jamie furman
Still around, I just don't comment on the site much. I don't drag race as much but I do still do a little bit, I road race a lot now instead its a lot more fun and last longer! I see all the guys at Mir 2 or 3 times a year weather I take a car or not at the private rentals. I still have all my cars and stuff.
I don't drag race too much anymore either. I got back into doing road course. Did VIR a bunch the past year.
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Originally Posted by jamie furman
I watched the video and the driver of the Z06 was shifting fine, the Viper is faster period in the real world as is the ZR1 and both probably by a good bit in a straight line and I have experience with both the Viper and the ZR1 and they can both dip well into the 10's in the 1/4 mile. I think you buy a Z06 because you like the car and all the engineering and technology improvements not because you want to hunt Vipers or ZR1's because if that's your goal your going to get your feelings hurt on the street and the track, any track not just the drag strip.
Been a long time, Jamie. Hope to see you at another MIR rental one of these days. - Scott

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Originally Posted by NineBall
Nspec owns a 2013 Viper GTS and the Z06. He says we can run them again, I'll drive the Z06 and he'll drive his Viper. That way, he gets to win, either way.

So, add that to the lineup of races I posted above.

Tony
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Excellent, great stuff Nineball and Nspec!

Also, look forward to all of the other Mexico road rallys you reference earlier here also Nineball!

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