Z06 VS everything else (post real stories/videos only, not what you think)
12-09-2014, 10:53 AM
#141
12-09-2014, 10:54 AM
#142
This should help...
http://www.autoevolu...etup-89790.html
Update: GM has responded, explaining the reasons behind the ECU setup reigning over the LT4 V8. To put it shortly, Chevy wants to make sure the Z06 meets emission targets and keeps placing those 650 ponies at the mercy of your right foot for at least 10 years or 100,000 miles (160,000 km), which are the intervals covered by the warranty.
To use the automaker's words: "We are confident that the vast majority of customers are going to be more than satisfied with the performance the Z06 offers in stock form. For those that want more power, they can visit an aftermarket tuner – who are not held to the same standards [emissions and warranty] as an OEM. However, this presents significant risk to the customer. An aftermarket tune voids the vehicle warranty as Chevrolet cannot possibly test or confirm the durability of their calibration; and aftermarket calibrations could cause drivability issues that are not present in the factory setting."
When asked about a possible track tune, that would unlock some extra potential for limited amounts of time, GM said they are not planning such a move.
http://www.autoevolu...etup-89790.html
Update: GM has responded, explaining the reasons behind the ECU setup reigning over the LT4 V8. To put it shortly, Chevy wants to make sure the Z06 meets emission targets and keeps placing those 650 ponies at the mercy of your right foot for at least 10 years or 100,000 miles (160,000 km), which are the intervals covered by the warranty.
To use the automaker's words: "We are confident that the vast majority of customers are going to be more than satisfied with the performance the Z06 offers in stock form. For those that want more power, they can visit an aftermarket tuner – who are not held to the same standards [emissions and warranty] as an OEM. However, this presents significant risk to the customer. An aftermarket tune voids the vehicle warranty as Chevrolet cannot possibly test or confirm the durability of their calibration; and aftermarket calibrations could cause drivability issues that are not present in the factory setting."
When asked about a possible track tune, that would unlock some extra potential for limited amounts of time, GM said they are not planning such a move.
12-09-2014, 10:55 AM
#143
Le Mans Master
This should help...
http://www.autoevolu...etup-89790.html
Update: GM has responded, explaining the reasons behind the ECU setup reigning over the LT4 V8. To put it shortly, Chevy wants to make sure the Z06 meets emission targets and keeps placing those 650 ponies at the mercy of your right foot for at least 10 years or 100,000 miles (160,000 km), which are the intervals covered by the warranty.
To use the automaker's words: "We are confident that the vast majority of customers are going to be more than satisfied with the performance the Z06 offers in stock form. For those that want more power, they can visit an aftermarket tuner – who are not held to the same standards [emissions and warranty] as an OEM. However, this presents significant risk to the customer. An aftermarket tune voids the vehicle warranty as Chevrolet cannot possibly test or confirm the durability of their calibration; and aftermarket calibrations could cause drivability issues that are not present in the factory setting."
When asked about a possible track tune, that would unlock some extra potential for limited amounts of time, GM said they are not planning such a move.
http://www.autoevolu...etup-89790.html
Update: GM has responded, explaining the reasons behind the ECU setup reigning over the LT4 V8. To put it shortly, Chevy wants to make sure the Z06 meets emission targets and keeps placing those 650 ponies at the mercy of your right foot for at least 10 years or 100,000 miles (160,000 km), which are the intervals covered by the warranty.
To use the automaker's words: "We are confident that the vast majority of customers are going to be more than satisfied with the performance the Z06 offers in stock form. For those that want more power, they can visit an aftermarket tuner – who are not held to the same standards [emissions and warranty] as an OEM. However, this presents significant risk to the customer. An aftermarket tune voids the vehicle warranty as Chevrolet cannot possibly test or confirm the durability of their calibration; and aftermarket calibrations could cause drivability issues that are not present in the factory setting."
When asked about a possible track tune, that would unlock some extra potential for limited amounts of time, GM said they are not planning such a move.
12-09-2014, 12:55 PM
#144
12-09-2014, 02:25 PM
#145
12-09-2014, 02:35 PM
#146
Le Mans Master
For example I have a neighbor with a C5 couple, 2002, less than 20k miles on it. I seriously doubt that car has spent much time near redline. I think that's how majority are.
12-09-2014, 02:53 PM
#147
If that's the hope they are probably right. This forum does NOT represent the normal owner at all. Most of us are nuty extremists
For example I have a neighbor with a C5 couple, 2002, less than 20k miles on it. I seriously doubt that car has spent much time near redline. I think that's how majority are.
For example I have a neighbor with a C5 couple, 2002, less than 20k miles on it. I seriously doubt that car has spent much time near redline. I think that's how majority are.
That said - the tune is pretty finicky and I think we will see an update...
12-09-2014, 03:36 PM
#148
Melting Slicks
12-09-2014, 07:18 PM
#149
Instructor
1st race was against my friends Aventador. full tank of gas and a passenger in my Z, not sure about the gas but a driver and a passenger in the Aventador.
All from about 50mph starting in 2nd gear
1-3 runs, very even. He would pull on me by a hair line in between shifts. My tires spun going 2-3 and 3-4 and even 4-5.
4-6 runs, super charger ran hot and he started pulling on me pretty hard every time.
2nd race, against another friends Aventador also.
started at 30 mph in 1st gear. temp was normal.
Of course i didnt go full throttle in first but just enough to not spin the tires.
Ran dead even.
Today, lining up against a Gen V TA. we will see how that goes.
(Videos coming soon)
All from about 50mph starting in 2nd gear
1-3 runs, very even. He would pull on me by a hair line in between shifts. My tires spun going 2-3 and 3-4 and even 4-5.
4-6 runs, super charger ran hot and he started pulling on me pretty hard every time.
2nd race, against another friends Aventador also.
started at 30 mph in 1st gear. temp was normal.
Of course i didnt go full throttle in first but just enough to not spin the tires.
Ran dead even.
Today, lining up against a Gen V TA. we will see how that goes.
(Videos coming soon)
If Tony's Viper TA beat you numerous times, how the heck did you keep up with the Aventador?
Aventadors usually run low to mid 10's and trap 136mph in the 1/4.
12-09-2014, 11:44 PM
#150
12-09-2014, 11:56 PM
#151
Safety Car
A 100% stock Aventador runs a 1/2 mile in the low to mid 150's... same as a 100% stock ZR1... so I would say the C7Z is right at par with those numbers.
I've ran a few Lambos in my time.
12-10-2014, 12:06 AM
#152
This is a much more complete link and a great read;
http://horsepowerkings.com/gm-respon...-shortcomings/
http://horsepowerkings.com/gm-respon...-shortcomings/
12-10-2014, 12:35 AM
#153
This is a much more complete link and a great read;
http://horsepowerkings.com/gm-respon...-shortcomings/
http://horsepowerkings.com/gm-respon...-shortcomings/
As I said, my C5 race car with 385 rwhp pulls 150 at Road Atlanta. To see Probst only pull 153 in a 650 horse car is pathetic.
This doesn't even get into the fact that the car had overheat issues after 4 laps. Can't even make it through a full HPDE session?
12-10-2014, 07:47 AM
#154
Instructor
Aventador leaves hard but starts running out of gas in triple digits where its weight starts getting in the way.
A 100% stock Aventador runs a 1/2 mile in the low to mid 150's... same as a 100% stock ZR1... so I would say the C7Z is right at par with those numbers.
I've ran a few Lambos in my time.
A 100% stock Aventador runs a 1/2 mile in the low to mid 150's... same as a 100% stock ZR1... so I would say the C7Z is right at par with those numbers.
I've ran a few Lambos in my time.
I didn't realize the Aventador was that slow
It looks like the Z06 has the same problem in tripple digits also----running out of gas on the top end.
I figure with a 136 mph trap which is 10mph faster than a Z06 in the 1/4 that there would be no way a Z06 could hang with it from early on 1-4th gears. If the Viper TA is only a ~130mph 1/4 trap.... I assumed the Aventador would be quicker from a 30-130 roll race for the first few gears.
I also raced a few Gallardo's and Murcielago's too when my ZR1 was stock. I even got my a$$ handed to me by a UGR Gallardo 40-90mph roll, but I've never raced an Aventador yet.
I heard the Aventador was quicker with 691-700hp.... so that's why I have a hard time seeing this Z06 stay even with it when it lost to Tony's Viper TA.
Last edited by enufpwr; 12-10-2014 at 07:49 AM.
12-10-2014, 11:41 AM
#155
Pete--
I didn't realize the Aventador was that slow
It looks like the Z06 has the same problem in tripple digits also----running out of gas on the top end.
I figure with a 136 mph trap which is 10mph faster than a Z06 in the 1/4 that there would be no way a Z06 could hang with it from early on 1-4th gears. If the Viper TA is only a ~130mph 1/4 trap.... I assumed the Aventador would be quicker from a 30-130 roll race for the first few gears.
I also raced a few Gallardo's and Murcielago's too when my ZR1 was stock. I even got my a$$ handed to me by a UGR Gallardo 40-90mph roll, but I've never raced an Aventador yet.
I heard the Aventador was quicker with 691-700hp.... so that's why I have a hard time seeing this Z06 stay even with it when it lost to Tony's Viper TA.
I didn't realize the Aventador was that slow
It looks like the Z06 has the same problem in tripple digits also----running out of gas on the top end.
I figure with a 136 mph trap which is 10mph faster than a Z06 in the 1/4 that there would be no way a Z06 could hang with it from early on 1-4th gears. If the Viper TA is only a ~130mph 1/4 trap.... I assumed the Aventador would be quicker from a 30-130 roll race for the first few gears.
I also raced a few Gallardo's and Murcielago's too when my ZR1 was stock. I even got my a$$ handed to me by a UGR Gallardo 40-90mph roll, but I've never raced an Aventador yet.
I heard the Aventador was quicker with 691-700hp.... so that's why I have a hard time seeing this Z06 stay even with it when it lost to Tony's Viper TA.
12-10-2014, 11:52 AM
#156
12-10-2014, 12:07 PM
#157
I don't think so. As far as I know - these are roll races and not from a dig? Also - the trap speed is what tell me about the power/potential of a car and the Aventador being at least 130+ should give both the Viper and Z06 as much as they can handle as they likely trap about equal or less than the Aventador (127-130+ MPH).
12-10-2014, 01:02 PM
#158
12-10-2014, 06:13 PM
#159
This is a much more complete link and a great read;
http://horsepowerkings.com/gm-respon...-shortcomings/
http://horsepowerkings.com/gm-respon...-shortcomings/
Anyone?
