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Old 10-31-2014, 10:34 AM
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Default C7 Z06: Is this the least expensive 200mph new car?

I figure it is but just want to see what everyone else thinks. I don't think hellcat can go 200 even with 700hp due to drag. shelby mustang never got 200mph even w over 600hp either c6 zr1 was over 100k so you could argue viper was a cheaper 200mph solution.... but i think c7 is the cheaper one now...

While we're at it what is the cheapest way to 200mph, new or used? I think even when compared to used cars. c7 z06 still very competitive. I an't think of much any used car that can get 200mph for cheaper. Even used ferrari 550maranello is still more expensive I think and 550 doesn't guarantee you can reach 200 as surely as z06
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Hellcat's top speed has been stated as 204 mph. So, assuming that is accurate, then it's cheaper than the Z06.
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Originally Posted by LBinATL
Hellcat's top speed has been stated as 204 mph. So, assuming that is accurate, then it's cheaper than the Z06.
I'd be curious to see if anyone can get that brick up over 200MPH in the real world.
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Originally Posted by theanswriz42
I'd be curious to see if anyone can get that brick up over 200MPH in the real world.
That "brick" has a Cd of .38 compared to the Z06/Z07's .37 Cd. Of course, that 'brick" does have to punch a larger hole in the air.

A "used" 2009 ZR1 is cheaper than a C7 Z06 and will do 205 MPH. While 198 MPH is not 200 MPH, a used C6 Z06 will do that at a very low cost.

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Old 10-31-2014, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by theanswriz42
I'd be curious to see if anyone can get that brick up over 200MPH in the real world.
We have not seen an offical top speed yet for the new Z06 but I wouldn't be suprised if the Z07 option dosen't make 200mph. The stage 1 aero version should no problem though.
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Oh I bet the Hellcat can do 200mph just fine.

But has anyone in this thread ever seen 200mph? Track or elsewhere? 150mph is faster than I will ever need to go on the ground.
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You'll need a pretty long straightaway with any of those cars. Longer than most of us can readily find.
Old 10-31-2014, 01:29 PM
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You'll need a pretty long straightaway with any of those cars. Longer than most of us can readily find.
Because of that....and self-preservation, very very few will even try.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
That "brick" has a Cd of .38 compared to the Z06/Z07's .37 Cd. Of course, that 'brick" does have to punch a larger hole in the air.

A "used" 2009 ZR1 is cheaper than a C7 Z06 and will do 205 MPH. While 198 MPH is not 200 MPH, a used C6 Z06 will do that at a very low cost.
I guess you are right. A used ZR1 would come in at around 58-62K with a used C6 Z06 in the high 30 to low 40K.

It's still amazing that you can get a 200mph new car for well less than 100k. I am waiting for a 200mph car less than 50K, which will happen to 2009 ZR1 in a few yrs?

Originally Posted by racerns
We have not seen an offical top speed yet for the new Z06 but I wouldn't be suprised if the Z07 option dosen't make 200mph. The stage 1 aero version should no problem though.
Originally Posted by clayto
Oh I bet the Hellcat can do 200mph just fine.

But has anyone in this thread ever seen 200mph? Track or elsewhere? 150mph is faster than I will ever need to go on the ground.
I guess the stage 3 aero does unfortunately have that much drag for the downforce.

Drag force is proportional to Cd and Frontal area and I bet that hellcat frontal area is def more than than z06.
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Was it obvious to anybody else that the word "new" was in the title?
I, personally, don't give a crap if a "used" C6 ZR1 or Z06 can go 200 mph. But I guess some people have to try steer the discussion to a car they own to feel better. Same thing happens in the C7 quarter mile threads.
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Originally Posted by clayto
Oh I bet the Hellcat can do 200mph just fine.
Yeah, when driven off a cliff.
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Originally Posted by arcticblast
Yeah, when driven off a cliff.
Typically the terminal velocity for a car is far below 200 MPH, fyi.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
That "brick" has a Cd of .38 compared to the Z06/Z07's .37 Cd. Of course, that 'brick" does have to punch a larger hole in the air.

A "used" 2009 ZR1 is cheaper than a C7 Z06 and will do 205 MPH. While 198 MPH is not 200 MPH, a used C6 Z06 will do that at a very low cost.
Tick tock, tick tock . . . and here comes the C6 lovers/C7 naysayers right on time!!

Thank god they are right here by our side on the C7 forums!!

And thanks so much for the insight about used cars being cheaper than new ones. I think you really raised the depth of knowledge on the C7 board by sharing that nugget - maybe the entire CF community.

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Also, being a downforce car, I wouldn't expect the z07 package to go 200 mph. That's not a negative at all. Downforce is good, but it is never free.
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Originally Posted by Snorman
Was it obvious to anybody else that the word "new" was in the title?
I, personally, don't give a crap if a "used" C6 ZR1 or Z06 can go 200 mph. But I guess some people have to try steer the discussion to a car they own to feel better. Same thing happens in the C7 quarter mile threads.
S.
I'm surprised he didn't go with a turbocharged C5 example.
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Originally Posted by clayto
Oh I bet the Hellcat can do 200mph just fine.

But has anyone in this thread ever seen 200mph? Track or elsewhere? 150mph is faster than I will ever need to go on the ground.



Quarter mile... stop light and roll racing is where 99% of the real world is.
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Originally Posted by clayto
Oh I bet the Hellcat can do 200mph just fine.

But has anyone in this thread ever seen 200mph? Track or elsewhere? 150mph is faster than I will ever need to go on the ground.
-- nope. 187

.. i'll be joining the club here real soon, watch for the blue dot coming up in your rearview

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Old 10-31-2014, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Snorman
Was it obvious to anybody else that the word "new" was in the title?
I, personally, don't give a crap if a "used" C6 ZR1 or Z06 can go 200 mph. But I guess some people have to try steer the discussion to a car they own to feel better. Same thing happens in the C7 quarter mile threads.
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It may have something to do with the original post...

Originally Posted by wildpig
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While we're at it what is the cheapest way to 200mph, new or used?
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:29 PM
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Hellcat charger goes 204 mph ,challenger does 199 mph Shelby mustang 2013 and 2014 go 202 mph ,c6 z06 does 198 mph.Those are the official figures.Koenigsegg agera 1 does 274 mph!
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Originally Posted by theanswriz42
I'd be curious to see if anyone can get that brick up over 200MPH in the real world.
I can't see that either but I guess we will find out in the future.


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