Z07 package on a 'Vert, opinions for/against please
#21
Le Mans Master
#22
Le Mans Master
Yeah, well thanks to all of the people who, without benefit of having one, opined that it makes no sense to get a Z06 convertible with a Z07 package.
I'm doing it anyway. Oh, btw, I'll be in the market for a roll bar for it, along with racing harnesses to complement the competition sport seats.
I also have a roll bar & racing harnesses in one of my C6 convertibles.
I'm doing it anyway. Oh, btw, I'll be in the market for a roll bar for it, along with racing harnesses to complement the competition sport seats.
I also have a roll bar & racing harnesses in one of my C6 convertibles.
#23
Melting Slicks
Yeah, well thanks to all of the people who, without benefit of having one, opined that it makes no sense to get a Z06 convertible with a Z07 package.
I'm doing it anyway. Oh, btw, I'll be in the market for a roll bar for it, along with racing harnesses to complement the competition sport seats.
I also have a roll bar & racing harnesses in one of my C6 convertibles.
I'm doing it anyway. Oh, btw, I'll be in the market for a roll bar for it, along with racing harnesses to complement the competition sport seats.
I also have a roll bar & racing harnesses in one of my C6 convertibles.
#24
Team Owner
I know the OP asked about a 'vert, but I am buying a coupe and have recently sort of reached the same dilemma.
As Glenn Quagmire stated, I don't 'think' the ride is going to be punishing, objectionable or unbearable. But honestly, already having a track car, it's very doubtful my Z06 will be on-track any more frequently than very occasionally. For me, there's not a lot of sense in prepping two cars for the track, and since IMO that non-Z07 cars will offer probably 95+ percent of the performance of the Z07, I'm starting to lean to a base Z06, 2LZ, A8 with a few nice options on it. It may NOT even have the CFZ/CFV aero on it.
My only regret with this path would be not getting CCB's.
S.
As Glenn Quagmire stated, I don't 'think' the ride is going to be punishing, objectionable or unbearable. But honestly, already having a track car, it's very doubtful my Z06 will be on-track any more frequently than very occasionally. For me, there's not a lot of sense in prepping two cars for the track, and since IMO that non-Z07 cars will offer probably 95+ percent of the performance of the Z07, I'm starting to lean to a base Z06, 2LZ, A8 with a few nice options on it. It may NOT even have the CFZ/CFV aero on it.
My only regret with this path would be not getting CCB's.
S.
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#25
Le Mans Master
do you have a roll cage or bolt in roll bar? big difference. real track dedicated cars have roll cages. you already have to add a roll bar to a z07 vert so as sold its not track ready. at the speed the z06 is capable of do you think a bolt in roll bar is going to save your *** if something happens at speed? the z07 looks totally bad-assed but to say its a track car makes me laugh. so i will stick by my statement that a z07 vert makes zero sense , except for the look factor and man it looks great !!! my .02 and not even worth that
#26
Melting Slicks
Just have a bolt in roll bar now. It doesn't matter to me if I ever track the new one; I'm still going to love it with all of the goodies. Wife said to go for it as you only live once. Hey, it's not going to have 8 speed auto, so does that make any sense either? I'm still going to have loads of fun, along with my Lingenfelter '05 vert and '13 427 vert.
#27
New here.... Not been a track driver but I am finalizing my 2016 Z06 3LZ order . (selling the 95 RT10 to have more everyday driving with performance). May also like to join some amateur track/road clubs in the future.
I've add the carbon fiber ground effects package.
I can add the CCB package (to the non Z07) for about $6900 in cost. I plan on enjoying the car for years to come and may light track a few times per year.
Would I be stupid not to add the CCB package now? Seems like a good entry point price for me. Or should I just add them after market later if I get more serious.
Thoughts? Thanks
I've add the carbon fiber ground effects package.
I can add the CCB package (to the non Z07) for about $6900 in cost. I plan on enjoying the car for years to come and may light track a few times per year.
Would I be stupid not to add the CCB package now? Seems like a good entry point price for me. Or should I just add them after market later if I get more serious.
Thoughts? Thanks
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I've never been influenced by others "expert" opinions. And I couldn't care any less of what anybody thinks of this......
Z07 optioned convertible. It's not a daily driver and will never see track time as long as I own it. So what?....... It didn't break the bank and I wanted it.......
Z07 optioned convertible. It's not a daily driver and will never see track time as long as I own it. So what?....... It didn't break the bank and I wanted it.......
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New here.... Not been a track driver but I am finalizing my 2016 Z06 3LZ order . (selling the 95 RT10 to have more everyday driving with performance). May also like to join some amateur track/road clubs in the future.
I've add the carbon fiber ground effects package.
I can add the CCB package (to the non Z07) for about $6900 in cost. I plan on enjoying the car for years to come and may light track a few times per year.
Would I be stupid not to add the CCB package now? Seems like a good entry point price for me. Or should I just add them after market later if I get more serious.
Thoughts? Thanks
I've add the carbon fiber ground effects package.
I can add the CCB package (to the non Z07) for about $6900 in cost. I plan on enjoying the car for years to come and may light track a few times per year.
Would I be stupid not to add the CCB package now? Seems like a good entry point price for me. Or should I just add them after market later if I get more serious.
Thoughts? Thanks
As for the CCM package that may or may not be an advantage when you take the car to the track. Some people have issues with those brakes and think they are not quite as track capable as others think. There are better choices available so going with a non Z07 optioned car and adding an aftermarket brake package like the Essex Package may be a better way to go from a track stand point.
I decided to go with the Z07 package and hope that it doesn't turn out to be a bad idea from a brake standpoint.
Bill
#30
Melting Slicks
I've never been influenced by others "expert" opinions. And I couldn't care any less of what anybody thinks of this......
Z07 optioned convertible. It's not a daily driver and will never see track time as long as I own it. So what?....... It didn't break the bank and I wanted it.......
Z07 optioned convertible. It's not a daily driver and will never see track time as long as I own it. So what?....... It didn't break the bank and I wanted it.......
I opted for the comp seats, despite some saying it was not practical, since I had no intention of tracking my car (though I might try it a couple of times), but they are my favorite option, very comfortable and the best seats of any car I've ever owned!
Enjoy, that awesome vert!
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#31
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Not only is it a fully loaded Z06/7, but it is now a Callaway SC 757.
I drove her from Miami to San Fran and enjoyed every second. With Tour mode it does not feel stiff at all and Sport mode is not so bad either.
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Oh yeah, I also made sure the car had the sport seats. They really finish the looks of the interior AND they are comfortable for me to sit on /in. The tires are not what I would pick and they will get swapped out for an up sized set of non-runflats at some point. The Cup2's are a lot like the Hoosier Quick Time Pros I had on my Chevy II (22" wide rears with less tread) that were sketchy on damp roads. Zero electronics, it would blow the tires off at 50mph if they were cold and I hopped on it. 700+hp and less than 3,000 lbs. So yeah I have enough sense/experience to know you don't work the throttle on the Z06 like an on/off switch. So much for this thread.......
#33
Drifting
Thread Starter
Unless you are a serious track person, the CCB package is going to be a total waste of money. I've been driving my Z06 for a year now, I autocross enough that I burned through a set of tires in the first season and I can tell you that the factory brakes are WAY enough for everyday driving, and pretty much every use except serious track use.
New here.... Not been a track driver but I am finalizing my 2016 Z06 3LZ order . (selling the 95 RT10 to have more everyday driving with performance). May also like to join some amateur track/road clubs in the future.
I've add the carbon fiber ground effects package.
I can add the CCB package (to the non Z07) for about $6900 in cost. I plan on enjoying the car for years to come and may light track a few times per year.
Would I be stupid not to add the CCB package now? Seems like a good entry point price for me. Or should I just add them after market later if I get more serious.
Thoughts? Thanks
I've add the carbon fiber ground effects package.
I can add the CCB package (to the non Z07) for about $6900 in cost. I plan on enjoying the car for years to come and may light track a few times per year.
Would I be stupid not to add the CCB package now? Seems like a good entry point price for me. Or should I just add them after market later if I get more serious.
Thoughts? Thanks
#34
Instructor
Anyone put a roll bar in their 15-16 Zo7 vert? I have been thinking about it, but it doesn't look like there is much room after it goes in. I LOVE my Z07 Convertible but I'd like to take it to the track once or twice.
Anyone know a track around DC that would take the convertible without a roll bar?
Anyone know a track around DC that would take the convertible without a roll bar?
#35
Drifting
#36
I opted for a Z06 convertible with the Carbon Ceramic Brakes as a stand alone option ( Option Code J57 ). My use: Never will be tracked or modded. Not a fan of the Aero Packages on the convertible. Having said that, GET WHAT YOU WANT and don't worry about others opinions on this one. My opinion of some of the comments on this forum:
1. Z07 suspension is too stiff - Nonsense, you can adjust the suspension for the needed application.
2. The Z07 tires will only last 3,000 miles - This could be true depending on your road conditions and you can always change out your tires (another cost to the already $11,000 for the Z07 with mnimum required Aero Package ). Heck, you only live once and if you really like the looks of the Z07, bite the bullet.
3. Carbon Ceramic Brakes never needed if you don't track - Is 650hp really ever needed? I like that I have no brake dust with my CCBs's, the weight savings on each corner, and like the way my car STOPS. However, if you go without CCB's you can always change out the pads to elimate much of the brake dust.
4. Some of the greatest cars of all time make no sense on paper but they exist, and we are glad that they do. The Z07 convertible is one of those cars.
So while I don't own a Z07 convertible, if you want one, go for it.
1. Z07 suspension is too stiff - Nonsense, you can adjust the suspension for the needed application.
2. The Z07 tires will only last 3,000 miles - This could be true depending on your road conditions and you can always change out your tires (another cost to the already $11,000 for the Z07 with mnimum required Aero Package ). Heck, you only live once and if you really like the looks of the Z07, bite the bullet.
3. Carbon Ceramic Brakes never needed if you don't track - Is 650hp really ever needed? I like that I have no brake dust with my CCBs's, the weight savings on each corner, and like the way my car STOPS. However, if you go without CCB's you can always change out the pads to elimate much of the brake dust.
4. Some of the greatest cars of all time make no sense on paper but they exist, and we are glad that they do. The Z07 convertible is one of those cars.
So while I don't own a Z07 convertible, if you want one, go for it.
#37
Le Mans Master
Well, it's been 16 months since I posted in this thread. Been driving the Z06 vert with the Z07 pkge since Jan 2 last year. It has about 5,250 miles. The Cup2 tires are still fine. No rollbar as yet, as the ones I've seen are not much higher than the seatback and would do little, if anything, to save you in a rollover (not that I would anticipate doing that, but accidents can happen.)
I do not regret having the vert with the Z07 pkge, even if it never sees track time. It's nice to have all of the "bells & whistles".
I do not regret having the vert with the Z07 pkge, even if it never sees track time. It's nice to have all of the "bells & whistles".
#38
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Not only is it a fully loaded Z06/7, but it is now a Callaway SC 757.
I drove her from Miami to San Fran and enjoyed every second. With Tour mode it does not feel stiff at all and Sport mode is not so bad either.
Not only is it a fully loaded Z06/7, but it is now a Callaway SC 757.
I drove her from Miami to San Fran and enjoyed every second. With Tour mode it does not feel stiff at all and Sport mode is not so bad either.
Ditto because a Callaway z06/7 3LZ vert rocks to drive! Simply permagrin! Car rides great in Touring. If you want to track it get a rpm 4point rollbar harnesses helmet and fire extinguisher.
#39
Instructor
My ZO7 Convertible
The only time I regret getting a convertible is when I think about tracking. Otherwise, I LOVE this car. If the temp is above 40deg and it is not raining, I'm driving with the top down.