TARANTULA

I was going to get the new Z until I test drove a Carrera 4 S. Believe me there's more to life than my car is faster than yours.

RonnieC6Z

I was just responding to an earlier comment that the new Z06 will eat the 991 Turbo S. It has nothing to do with price and/or value. The fact is that the new Turbo S, either in a straight line or around corners is just crazy fast! Put it in launch control and take off and it is the quickest car that I have experienced. And I have driven a ZR1 and a Ferrari 16M. Pricewise, the C7 Z06 wins hands down over anything. And it is quicker than almost anything out there.

CasperDog

The Turbo S is a wonderful car as will be the Z06. I really dont see where the Z06 "eats up" the TS. I would bet the TS will best the Z06 in the 1/4 mile. The Turbo S is recorded at just under 7:30 on the ring, over 4 seconds faster than the Z28. Of course, the Z06 will record a faster time than the Camaro and the TS however by how much? Only time will tell. Finally, cost really shouldnt enter the equation. For example, if cost was the only measure why would anyone buy a Ford GT and even a Pagani?

LS1LT1

On the street or on a poorly prepped drag strip, you're probably correct, especially with a manual C7 Z06.
On the same well prepped track, same driver, same day against an automatic Z06?
I think it will be a very good race.

glass slipper

So we've established the 911 Turbo S will be great for drag racing but not so much around corners. There's no way it can be great in a straight line AND corners and get beat by the C6 ZR1 and most likely the C7 Z06. The C6 ZR1 and C7 Z06 are much better handling sports cars than the Porsche 911 Turbo S, they have to be after giving up that much in a straight line and still be able to beat it around a road course.

ByByBMW

Everything I have read says the TS should be very good around corners. So why do you say "not so much around corners"
When I look at Nurburgring times, I would guess the TS will be close to the C7 Z. They are both going to be wicked fast.

Cruncher

If all of you are worried about price, think about this re: Porsche: front brakes $800-$1300; oil change (@ 10K miles/1 year) $300; change plugs $800; alignment $260; battery $360...pulling into the Porsche service department $XXX.

And, if you like to see the end of your hood, forget it with a Porsche----you'll only be able to see about 1 inch of the hood...good luck parking your $100K+ wimpy Porsche. However, Porsche doesn't seem to have the mechanical/electrical problems as a Corvette does.

Callsign_Vega

I do like Porsche's, but their pricing is just stupid. You can build a Turbo S and get it over $200K without blinking. The only way I'd ever own a Porsche is used after the 1st guy takes the massive hit.

They must be doing something right, they are the most profitable per-car company out there.

Doc V.

Porsche's June 2014 sales are up, with an 11% gain over June 2013 sales. The big sellers are not, however, Porsche's sports cars. The Macan and the Panamera are the sales leaders; sales of the Boxster, the Cayman, and the 911 are off from June 2013, as are sales of the Cayenne.

Source: Porsche Panorama, August 2014

ChucksZ06

Yes but on a track, traction is not the such a problem for the corvette because the cars are already at speed. The Porsche is so fast from a standing start because of superior traction. From 60mph and up the vette is going to be the faster car and on a road course most speeds are rarely that slow. ie the 0 to 60 time of the Porsche is to no advantage on a road course.

Daekwan06

Been that way for a while now. As much as Porsche purists hate the SUVs & 4 door Panamera.. those cars literally saved the company. I believe something like 70% of all new Porsche sales are 4 door vehicles.

Gary '09 C6

^...and IMO the Panamera is one of of the ugliest cars out there !

BadboyZ06

You nailed it!

Carnut12

You guys are hilarious, does Chevy sell more Corvettes than Trucks or Sedans?? Name me one company that sells more Sports Cars than Daily Drivers. Most purists have no issue with the SUV's or Sedan, go to Rennlist, many own one of those and a 911 and/or Boxster/Cayman. SUV's/Trucks have been the cash cow for every Manufacturer, it is about time Porsche figured that out. The Macan is going to be a Huge Success. Yes 911 sales are down less than 2% and Boxster/Cayman are down about 10%, this is following the New Model release of the Boxster/Cayman and the second year of the 911, I would bet the same thing will happen with the Vette in 2016. By the way the 911 sales were up 8% in July for what it is worth. The C7 appears to be taking form the Boxster/Cayman, if anything.

Right now they equal 60% of total sales, but they are also 60% of the cars (Cayenne, Macan, Panamera vs 911, Boxster/Cayman) they sell so it is equal distribution. That said, the Macan just came out and I would bet your 70% number will be reality by years end.

The 911 is NOT a high production car, never has been and never will be. They still have no issue selling every one with no rebates what so ever. I personally do think the prices have gotten a little out of control, but if people keep buying them why would they change that?

Carnut12

Well said!!!

Carnut12

And the 99.9% of the time you drive it on the street it means a ton.

jim2527

Now that right there is funny sheit.....

"Biff, why'd you spend so much on Porsche?". "It was the superior service experience Porsche offers." "Seriously, your car is in for service so often they tricked you into paying for a more comfortable service lounge?"

What a joke, my GM cars have never been in the shop more than my foreign cars.

3deep

and wealth is needed to purchase them!

Detroit Steel

Now, that we've got a pretty good idea of where the new Z06 will come in on that sticker price, we probably have a better idea of how it measures up in the segment.

Not that it really matters considering the loyalty here always leans toward our beloved 'Vette as it should. Still, a quick rundown comparing the Z06’s power and pricing against other formidable rivals is pretty interesting as compiled in an Autoblog report – with a few additional numbers.

Read the rest on the Corvette Forum homepage.

C5Dobie

OK, well a fata$$ camaro Z28 is faster around a track @ 505 n/a HP than the 911T, so I'm pretty sure when it comes to roadcourse type racng - streets of willow englishtown etc. - the Z06 will DESTROY the 911T, probably in a 1/4 mile too, but I'm not as confident on that one...yet.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._r_comparison/

How on earth do you expect a 911T to even come close to hanging w/, let a lone BEATING, the new Z06 around a track taking what we already know regarding the Z28's perforance against it - same day, same course, same driver?

0-60 times are for bench racing teenagers. If that's what turns you on get a crotch rocket and don't look back. To really experience what these "super"cars have to offer you need to let them run on a curvy track, straights, tight and wide corners, switchbacks, etc. Basically ANY modern sports/muscle car can be made into a high 10 second car down the 1/4 nowadays for relatively speaking short money - relative in comparison to what a 911 costs.

I have gobs of seat time in a 911 4S cabriolet black edition, my bosses old ride, awesome car - feels milled from a solid brick of aluminum. But to be honest if you blindofolded me and let me drive one back to back against a subie STi (say what you want but to me the driving experience is similar) I can't promise you I'd come back saying the 911 4s was more fun.....Oh, and my bolted G8 GT w/ 120,000 on the clock on hankook high performance street tires was faster than my boss' 911 4S the time we both drove down to the shore together, over and over and over again, he would be right at my fenders, but couldn't get past me until over 120+