I think the New "Z" will be priced way over MSRP when Dealers see Huge demand!
#21
Team Owner
I'll suffer with the project rolling ZO6's! Adding the 710 kit and ARH
1 /7/8's
to this! Maybe in 2017 a new Z06. I'll save the premium.
#22
Le Mans Master
LPE385 is completely correct on his take. Yes, the C7 Z06 promises to be the ultimate supercharged vette. Like all the other vette junkies, I am just as excited as anyone else and want one yesterday too. So naturally I understand the the very NORMAL hysteria that ALWAYS happens when a new fabulous vette arrives. If one wants to yield to paying big amounts over msrp to satisfy their cravings, have fun. The rest of us, who already are driving supercharged C6's etc, will stay on the side lines and buy ours after all the start up issues and prices/availability have stabilized.
#23
Same here never did and never will...this will be the fourth Vette at this dealer and never paid one cent over MSRP and the sales manager told me the same will go with the new Z06.
#24
The car is being mass produced on an assembly line in bg Kentucky. It is largely based on a car already in production. It is going to be a great car BUT a few months patience is all you will need to get one. That is the great thing about corvettes...you do not have to be connected to get one.
#25
Exactly. In marketing it's called Price Elasticity.
Supply vs Demand working like it should
If I am willing to pay 10k over, who cares!
I don't blame a dealer for wanting to make Maximum profits, that's what a BUSINESS is supposed to do. Make a profit for shareholders.
I would probably pay 12k over MSRP without giving it a 2nd thought. More than that and I'll most likely wait another 6 months.
If I were a Vette dealer, no ZO6s sold at MSRP. Must pay mucho dinero over MSRP
Supply vs Demand working like it should
If I am willing to pay 10k over, who cares!
I don't blame a dealer for wanting to make Maximum profits, that's what a BUSINESS is supposed to do. Make a profit for shareholders.
I would probably pay 12k over MSRP without giving it a 2nd thought. More than that and I'll most likely wait another 6 months.
If I were a Vette dealer, no ZO6s sold at MSRP. Must pay mucho dinero over MSRP
#26
Team Owner
The dealers look at the end of year profit picture more than the profit made on individual sales.
If anyone wants to pay my dealer $10,000 over MSRP, that's fine with me as my dealer can then sell me one for way under MSRP and still makes a boat load of money.
It's a win-win-win for all three. The person that is happy for paying over MSRP, me being happy for paying under MSRP, and the dealer who is happy for selling two cars and averaged MSRP+ on both sales.
If anyone wants to pay my dealer $10,000 over MSRP, that's fine with me as my dealer can then sell me one for way under MSRP and still makes a boat load of money.
It's a win-win-win for all three. The person that is happy for paying over MSRP, me being happy for paying under MSRP, and the dealer who is happy for selling two cars and averaged MSRP+ on both sales.
#27
Sure it will sell faster but I can see dealers in the big city's adding huge markups on the Z06 heck in Toronto Canada area they are selling the C7 Z51 as high as $88,000 and people are buying them up..I went through this when I bought the first GT500 Shelby back in 07 I paid MSRP $51,300 but they were going as high as $80 to 90K in the big city's I actually had a dealer call me and offered me 10K over what I paid but turned it down because Ford at the time was telling us that it was only going to be a 2 year run for those cars well that turned out to be BS LOL!!
#28
Instructor
Exactly. In marketing it's called Price Elasticity.
Supply vs Demand working like it should
If I am willing to pay 10k over, who cares!
I don't blame a dealer for wanting to make Maximum profits, that's what a BUSINESS is supposed to do. Make a profit for shareholders.
I would probably pay 12k over MSRP without giving it a 2nd thought. More than that and I'll most likely wait another 6 months.
If I were a Vette dealer, no ZO6s sold at MSRP. Must pay mucho dinero over MSRP
Supply vs Demand working like it should
If I am willing to pay 10k over, who cares!
I don't blame a dealer for wanting to make Maximum profits, that's what a BUSINESS is supposed to do. Make a profit for shareholders.
I would probably pay 12k over MSRP without giving it a 2nd thought. More than that and I'll most likely wait another 6 months.
If I were a Vette dealer, no ZO6s sold at MSRP. Must pay mucho dinero over MSRP
I paid over sticker for my c-7. I know I'm stupid..... but I got the first car my dealer had Oct 3rd I think I got it. They asked for 10k over I got them down to $2,500 over. I have z51, carbon fiber trim, exposed carbon fiber top... All the options that went on restraint that very same week. If I ordered one @ an MSPR deal I wouldn't have got it until after the price increase plus my 2012 BMW would have deprecated more. So I consider it a good deal. Plus it made me HAPPY!!!!!
Last edited by sahowley; 06-27-2014 at 11:19 AM.
#31
Instructor
Yeah I should have ordered one @ MRSP or $1,000 under and paid the price increase and suffered a 2-4% depreciation on my BMW. Then I would have only paid $1,000 - $2,000 more than I paid in October 2013 and been without the car for 5 months. Remember happiness is priceless. I can make more money. I can't buy more time. I have no regrets. I agree with Ten's & Golf Nut. I'd pay $10,000 k over MSRP for the car I wanted in second. I'd be in on a 15 ZO6, but I promised the wife I'd wait till 2016 to buy another car. Compromise sucks!
#33
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What's laughable is those that state 'I never pay sticker, much less over...' will NOT be one of the first people to own a high-demand, newly-released car like the new Z06--sorry...
At LEAST MSRP (for those dealers who will honor their commitment), for the first 6 mos--possibly more, depending on demand. Unless the car is a complete flop w/ the reviewers, or the economy does a re-duex of '08-09--count on it.
I had to wait til the '07s were just coming out, to buy my '06 C6Z just under sticker.
I was able to get my '08 C6Z @ a huge discount. Supply/demand.
My .02...
At LEAST MSRP (for those dealers who will honor their commitment), for the first 6 mos--possibly more, depending on demand. Unless the car is a complete flop w/ the reviewers, or the economy does a re-duex of '08-09--count on it.
I had to wait til the '07s were just coming out, to buy my '06 C6Z just under sticker.
I was able to get my '08 C6Z @ a huge discount. Supply/demand.
My .02...
#34
Burning Brakes
These same arguments happened with the ZR1, and within a year they were giving discounts, and those were more rare than the new Z will be.
Save your money, and send it to LPE with the extra money and have something really special.
A dealer I have dealt with for years told me I couldn't even be on a list at MSRP, only 25k over. I said what about a list at MSRP AFTER the 25k list, and he refused! I asked him to ask the owner if he felt that way and he said yes. I promptly told him I would never buy another vehicle from his establishment ever again. 20 years of a relationship down the drain. I will never feel special for any dealer ever again. Its simply business on both ends. Feelings get in the way of rationality.
#36
Sure it will sell faster but I can see dealers in the big city's adding huge markups on the Z06 heck in Toronto Canada area they are selling the C7 Z51 as high as $88,000 and people are buying them up..I went through this when I bought the first GT500 Shelby back in 07 I paid MSRP $51,300 but they were going as high as $80 to 90K in the big city's I actually had a dealer call me and offered me 10K over what I paid but turned it down because Ford at the time was telling us that it was only going to be a 2 year run for those cars well that turned out to be BS LOL!!
But, congrats to all future MSRP-paying owners. There is nothing wrong with buying what you like, when you like.
#38
Scraping the splitter.
From your posts, in 2011 you bought your "first" Corvette...a used 2009 Z06. Then in 2012 you got a 2010 ZR1.
So were the other 2 Corvettes high demand models and/or what were they?
S.
#39
16 Vettes and counting…..
A dealer I have dealt with for years told me I couldn't even be on a list at MSRP, only 25k over. I said what about a list at MSRP AFTER the 25k list, and he refused! I asked him to ask the owner if he felt that way and he said yes. I promptly told him I would never buy another vehicle from his establishment ever again. 20 years of a relationship down the drain. I will never feel special for any dealer ever again. Its simply business on both ends. Feelings get in the way of rationality.
At least with a *****, however, you know exactly what you're getting, so go in with your eyes open and you'll be fine.....but don't for one second think you've found that "hooker with a heart of gold." That's strictly in the movies.
#40
Race Director
Yeah I should have ordered one @ MRSP or $1,000 under and paid the price increase and suffered a 2-4% depreciation on my BMW. Then I would have only paid $1,000 - $2,000 more than I paid in October 2013 and been without the car for 5 months. Remember happiness is priceless. I can make more money. I can't buy more time. I have no regrets. I agree with Ten's & Golf Nut. I'd pay $10,000 k over MSRP for the car I wanted in second. I'd be in on a 15 ZO6, but I promised the wife I'd wait till 2016 to buy another car. Compromise sucks!
why is it laughable? again it may not be as important to some as yourself just to be the 1st 1 on the block with the new toy. And can you honestly speak for every deposit out there whether or not its marked up to state who or who wont be the 1st ones to get one??? What qualifies you to make such a broad assessment?