New "Zora" Vette to replace ZR1 moniker?
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A bit of history I ran across and thought may be of interest or relevance to this thread. As previously mentioned GM trademarked the L88 moniker along with the name "Zora". The following article is not directly related in any way except for history of the L88 at Le Mans 1972 supported behind the scenes by Zora Arkus-Duntov. As a race fan and Corvette enthusiast I would love to see a C7 of similar pedigree as the 2014 Z28 with a GEN V L88 direct injected (N/A) powerplant and hopefully with 427 CID displacement. Only a passing thought similar to others that have posted here which may never come to fruition in any form. Along those lines I thought an article from Corvette Magazine worthy of posting for others to read. Link at the bottom of post.
Le Mans Memories
With L88 power propelling it to 212 mph down the Mulsanne Straight, a Corvette fielded by a privateer team from Florida made a strong showing at the 24 Hour of Le Mans in 1972.
July 28, 2014
http://www.corvette-mag.com/issues/9...1#.U9_EFfldV8E
Le Mans Memories
With L88 power propelling it to 212 mph down the Mulsanne Straight, a Corvette fielded by a privateer team from Florida made a strong showing at the 24 Hour of Le Mans in 1972.
July 28, 2014
http://www.corvette-mag.com/issues/9...1#.U9_EFfldV8E
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A bit of history I ran across and thought may be of interest or relevance to this thread. As previously mentioned GM trademarked the L88 moniker along with the name "Zora". The following article is not directly related in any way except for history of the L88 at Le Mans 1972 supported behind the scenes by Zora Arkus-Duntov. As a race fan and Corvette enthusiast I would love to see a C7 of similar pedigree as the 2014 Z28 with a GEN V L88 direct injected (N/A) powerplant and hopefully with 427 CID displacement. Only a passing thought similar to others that have posted here which may never come to fruition in any form. Along those lines I thought an article from Corvette Magazine worthy of posting for others to read. Link at the bottom of post.
Le Mans Memories
With L88 power propelling it to 212 mph down the Mulsanne Straight, a Corvette fielded by a privateer team from Florida made a strong showing at the 24 Hour of Le Mans in 1972.
July 28, 2014
http://www.corvette-mag.com/issues/9...1#.U9_EFfldV8E
Le Mans Memories
With L88 power propelling it to 212 mph down the Mulsanne Straight, a Corvette fielded by a privateer team from Florida made a strong showing at the 24 Hour of Le Mans in 1972.
July 28, 2014
http://www.corvette-mag.com/issues/9...1#.U9_EFfldV8E
Great story of the histroy of the L88 and the commitment of a private owner in the link
Thanks for sharing
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Picture looks great. Personally I don't see a need for a mid engine Vette since the "weight distribution" has been great since the C5 model. Unless switching to a mid engine configuration allows the car to be built with AWD and keeps curb weight comparable to other mid engine super cars I don't see a reason for it. Again, the rendering above looks great. I'd be very curious if built what the weight bias would be.
Last edited by NemesisC5; 08-16-2014 at 04:43 PM. Reason: Added a key word I meant for original post: "weight distribution"
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Certainly will lay the ground work for the C8 hybrid with the electric motors. Expect this to be the transition car without the hybridization.
Love the front as they can slope it down more w/o the engine...looks great!
And no fender spats!
Love the front as they can slope it down more w/o the engine...looks great!
And no fender spats!
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Picture looks great, first vette I can imagine with scissor doors that would look good
While I put my flame suit on i might add that I could see wheel driven hybrid technology fitting very well in this configuration
AWD is a good thing but the McClaren cars have proven that mid engine rear drive can run with or out-run the best of the AWD cars other than on wet surfaces.
Being as this article is from MT, it is probably just some editors dream vette and nothing else
While I put my flame suit on i might add that I could see wheel driven hybrid technology fitting very well in this configuration
AWD is a good thing but the McClaren cars have proven that mid engine rear drive can run with or out-run the best of the AWD cars other than on wet surfaces.
Being as this article is from MT, it is probably just some editors dream vette and nothing else
#52
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Now Corrode & Crack needs to weigh in, even though I'll never forgive them for the cover story on the Honda S3000 they said was coming in 2008.
But let us indulge for a minute in the possibility that this one isn't complete bohunk. I'd be extremely, very extremely, interested in a convertible version, so long as the frunk is big enough for a tent and sleeping bag in stuff sacks, since I'd be selling the house.
But let us indulge for a minute in the possibility that this one isn't complete bohunk. I'd be extremely, very extremely, interested in a convertible version, so long as the frunk is big enough for a tent and sleeping bag in stuff sacks, since I'd be selling the house.
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Picture looks great, first vette I can imagine with scissor doors that would look good
While I put my flame suit on i might add that I could see wheel driven hybrid technology fitting very well in this configuration
AWD is a good thing but the McClaren cars have proven that mid engine rear drive can run with or out-run the best of the AWD cars other than on wet surfaces.
Being as this article is from MT, it is probably just some editors dream vette and nothing else
While I put my flame suit on i might add that I could see wheel driven hybrid technology fitting very well in this configuration
AWD is a good thing but the McClaren cars have proven that mid engine rear drive can run with or out-run the best of the AWD cars other than on wet surfaces.
Being as this article is from MT, it is probably just some editors dream vette and nothing else
The C7 ZO6 will likely have a curb weight of 3400+ LBS so unless a mid engine format is inherently lighter to build with the same materials being used in the current C7 ZO6 a mid engine Corvette will not see the rear wheel drive performance of any McLaren.
Shureshot, in no way were my comments intended to flame you "already fully clothed in your flame suit", merely to point out some "top of the mind" recollections I have of the McLaren platform and technology. I agree 100% with you on the good looks of the C8 rendering and hope of it's potential. I have faith that GM can build a C7 ZO6 in its current front engine format that will compete with "many of the best in the world" on the Nurburgring as a common test ground, however I don't know anything about building a 2 WD or AWD mid engine from scratch using material and technology restraints to keep said car affordable by main body demographic of Corvette owners.
#56
I'll take the comment as a compliment, however I posted up enough of her in the past.
So you are an s2000 fan I assume. Do you have an S2000? Let me know so I can ask a few questions from someone who most likely owned a vette.
Now Corrode & Crack needs to weigh in, even though I'll never forgive them for the cover story on the Honda S3000 they said was coming in 2008.
But let us indulge for a minute in the possibility that this one isn't complete bohunk. I'd be extremely, very extremely, interested in a convertible version, so long as the frunk is big enough for a tent and sleeping bag in stuff sacks, since I'd be selling the house.
But let us indulge for a minute in the possibility that this one isn't complete bohunk. I'd be extremely, very extremely, interested in a convertible version, so long as the frunk is big enough for a tent and sleeping bag in stuff sacks, since I'd be selling the house.
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http://wot.motortrend.com/1408_scoop...e_is_a_go.html
"However, a GM source recently told us that the Z06’s supercharged LT4 is capable of producing 1000 hp, though traction is an issue in the C7. Mid-engine weight distribution would help to put more weight over the rear tires."
Look for the 2017 Zora model to produce 800+ HP with their LT4 twin turbo mid-engine. It will be the transitional car to the mid-engine C8 with likely one model being a hybrid and using a twin turbo V6 in the same platform.
This 2017 Zora is most likely going to be THE Corvette gas IC engine HP wise as after that it be transitioned into the hybrid C8. That will mark the end of the HP wars as the 775 HP Mustang, 800 HP Nismo GT-R and the likes compete with this Corvette Zora.
"However, a GM source recently told us that the Z06’s supercharged LT4 is capable of producing 1000 hp, though traction is an issue in the C7. Mid-engine weight distribution would help to put more weight over the rear tires."
Look for the 2017 Zora model to produce 800+ HP with their LT4 twin turbo mid-engine. It will be the transitional car to the mid-engine C8 with likely one model being a hybrid and using a twin turbo V6 in the same platform.
This 2017 Zora is most likely going to be THE Corvette gas IC engine HP wise as after that it be transitioned into the hybrid C8. That will mark the end of the HP wars as the 775 HP Mustang, 800 HP Nismo GT-R and the likes compete with this Corvette Zora.