C7 Z06 Discussion General Z06 Corvette Discussion, LT4 Corvette Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Suspension Setup for Street or Track
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: GEM Motorsports

Saw somewhere Z06 starts at $75?!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-06-2014, 05:52 PM
  #61  
LS1LT1
Team Owner
 
LS1LT1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2001
Location: Short Hills, NJ
Posts: 27,067
Received 21 Likes on 21 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by TB427Z06
I think you're probably much closer than other predictions I've seen. My prediction in December before the unveiling was as follows:I went through the exercise today to try to get a better handle on how much a C7Z06 might cost and how long I'd have to wait for a discount. I compared 2013 C6Z06 options to 2013 ZR1 options. You can find prices still on cars.com build your car 2013 Corvette.
Z06 Base $75600+Z07 $7500+MSR $2495+Carb Fiber. Opt $3995+ Carb. Fiber Hood $2495 = $92085. (Essentially A ZR1 with a 427 engine)
ZR1 Base $111,600. To get the additional cost of the LS9 engine &misc you get $111,600-$92085= $19515.
OK My assumptions are as follows:
C7Z06 Base will come with MSR, carbon fiber hood +LT4additional cost so I get
$75600+$2495+$2495+$10000 est.=$90590.
Additional options:
2LZ $4660
3LZ $8860
Z07 $7500
ZR1 Hi. Po package $1495
So I'd order a base 2lz for $95250
Add Z07, carbon Fiber option and Hi Po option your talking $108,240.
The big unknown is the additional cost of the LT4 engine. If it's 19,515K more like the ZR1 than my examples would range from $105,250-$117,755.
Hope it's the lower scenario but only time will tell.
That does make some sense. But after what GM/Chevrolet experienced with those $111k (over $125k with options) C6 ZR1s sitting on showroom floors eventually being sold for $20k+ under MSRP I just can't see them pricing this car that high ($96k or even $90k base MSRP) even though it is a totally different car from any C6 model and is loaded with some amazing technology.
I suppose they could start it at $90k, it IS worth it. But that's also a full $13k+ more than a base 2013 Z06 was, not sure they will attempt that in these trying times.
Old 06-06-2014, 05:52 PM
  #62  
rrm
Racer
 
rrm's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2013
Location: spicewood texas
Posts: 392
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

If the costs come out the way you figured then I would have to change my prediction in another thread from 1k sale/mth avg 1st full year to about 700avg...rrm
Old 06-06-2014, 05:55 PM
  #63  
BOBSZ06
Le Mans Master
 
BOBSZ06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2000
Location: N. CA
Posts: 5,027
Received 319 Likes on 205 Posts

Default

In this video, Tadge says about the price of the new Z06 to just subtract $35k from the ZR1 and you have the price:

ZR1 Base: $112,600
less $35,000
= $77,600

This was in March, so add in the price increase and you have the Z06 Base price!



Old 06-06-2014, 06:53 PM
  #64  
blackvetterzo6
Le Mans Master
 
blackvetterzo6's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2006
Location: Goodyear Arizona
Posts: 5,302
Received 1,019 Likes on 567 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by drmustang
It will be interesting to see what volume of 80 or 90 thousand dollar toys GM can deliver with our nations disposable income levels at a record low point. Probably see the 10K-15K discounts that were applied to the C6Zs just come sooner this time around. The guys who have to first will be bent over as expected. The bottom could fall out on these cars far quicker than some are predicting.
Just look at the new Viper, 45k off of sticker in a year wwwooowww
Old 06-06-2014, 08:40 PM
  #65  
andrec10
Burning Brakes
 
andrec10's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2012
Location: Hyde Park New York
Posts: 1,233
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by blackvetterzo6
Just look at the new Viper, 45k off of sticker in a year wwwooowww
I am glad I have to wait till 2017 after my son graduates Grad School.
Old 06-06-2014, 09:42 PM
  #66  
TB427Z06
Pro
 
TB427Z06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2004
Location: Colorado
Posts: 708
Received 409 Likes on 186 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Snorman
Every C7 already has a carbon fiber hood.
Also note that MSRC/FE4 is $1795 when optioned on Z51's and the Z06 will have NPP standard ($1195 on base/Z51 C7).
S.
The fiberglass hood cost was just an assumption based on the extra cost on a C6 Z06, but you may be right that that's included in the base cost. The Dual mode exhaust is standard on the Z06 and no extra cost was attributed to that in my estimate. So you could knock off another $2495 off my base estimate of $90,590K for a price of $88,095. Again, the big unknown is the additional cost of the LT4, I just guessed it was 10K more. It could be less or it could be more.

Last edited by TB427Z06; 06-06-2014 at 09:54 PM.
Old 06-06-2014, 09:54 PM
  #67  
baron95
Racer
 
baron95's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2013
Posts: 489
Received 271 Likes on 140 Posts

Default

I don't think you can use a straight up percentage increase from base car to Z06 from the C6 and extrapolate to the C7.

The C6 Z06 was really a completely different low volume platform compared to the C6 coupe. The low volume aluminum, balsa wood, platform was totally different and built (partially) in a different place. The engine also, was a low volume almost hand built one.

The C7 Z06 has the same structure, the same engine block as the C7 coupe. The economies of scale are huge. In automotive production, having low volume structures and/or engines is pretty much the most expensive thing you can do.

So, I can't tell you how much more the price will be (that is mostly a marketing exercise), but I think it is pretty safe to assume that the incremental cost (over base) of the C7 Z06 is much smaller than the C6 ZO6.

Blower on top of same block - likely no more than $2.5K cost to Chevy.

Carbon torque tube, larger brakes/wheels - likely no more than $1.5K cost to Chevy.

Exclusive (wider) body panels, spoilers, etc - likely no more that $2K cost to Chevy.

So the cost delta is probably only $5K-$6K. Add 100% margin, the Z06 could be priced as low as $10K-$12K over a Z51/NPP/MagRide (which is under $60K). So that would put it in the $70K-$72K

Now the Z06 will likely have a few more items standard and Chevy will likely want higher margins on it, so add a few more $K.

$75K is not our of the question IF Chevy wants to price aggressively. Either way, I think there is no way the base will be over $80K.
Old 06-06-2014, 10:09 PM
  #68  
TB427Z06
Pro
 
TB427Z06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2004
Location: Colorado
Posts: 708
Received 409 Likes on 186 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by BOBSZ06
In this video, Tadge says about the price of the new Z06 to just subtract $35k from the ZR1 and you have the price:

ZR1 Base: $112,600
less $35,000
= $77,600

This was in March, so add in the price increase and you have the Z06 Base price!



TADGE JUECHTER CHIEF ENGINEER & HARLAN CHARLES PRODUCT MANAGER DISCUSS 2014 CORVETTE AT SEBRING - YouTube
Actually, he said if the take a ZR1 price and subtract $35k from it you get a Z06 price. That would be $125K-35K or $90K which is pretty close to my estimate.
Old 06-06-2014, 10:26 PM
  #69  
Snorman
Scraping the splitter.
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Snorman's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2005
Posts: 8,115
Received 1,028 Likes on 486 Posts
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15

Default

Originally Posted by TB427Z06
The fiberglass hood cost was just an assumption based on the extra cost on a C6 Z06, but you may be right that that's included in the base cost. The Dual mode exhaust is standard on the Z06 and no extra cost was attributed to that in my estimate. So you could knock off another $2495 off my base estimate of $90,590K for a price of $88,095. Again, the big unknown is the additional cost of the LT4, I just guessed it was 10K more. It could be less or it could be more.
At $88k, you and I are fairly close. I am figuring $85-86k base.

I don't 'think' they would push it to $90k.
S.
Old 06-07-2014, 08:57 AM
  #70  
BOBSZ06
Le Mans Master
 
BOBSZ06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2000
Location: N. CA
Posts: 5,027
Received 319 Likes on 205 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by TB427Z06
Actually, he said if the take a ZR1 price and subtract $35k from it you get a Z06 price. That would be $125K-35K or $90K which is pretty close to my estimate.
The $125K is not the base price of the ZR1....so your price of $90K would not be the base price of the new Z06.

Last edited by BOBSZ06; 06-07-2014 at 10:08 AM.
Old 06-08-2014, 05:24 PM
  #71  
TB427Z06
Pro
 
TB427Z06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2004
Location: Colorado
Posts: 708
Received 409 Likes on 186 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by BOBSZ06
The $125K is not the base price of the ZR1....so your price of $90K would not be the base price of the new Z06.
He never said base price, so he could have been talking in general terms.
Old 06-08-2014, 05:55 PM
  #72  
Michael A
Le Mans Master
 
Michael A's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2001
Location: CA
Posts: 9,635
Received 2,923 Likes on 1,365 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by TB427Z06
He never said base price, so he could have been talking in general terms.
IMO, it wouldn't make much sense to not be talking base prices. Of course, they could always change their minds, or come out with a low price at first, and then jack it up a few months later.

Michael
Old 06-08-2014, 07:07 PM
  #73  
TB427Z06
Pro
 
TB427Z06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2004
Location: Colorado
Posts: 708
Received 409 Likes on 186 Posts

Default

Well if the base is in the $85 to $90K range and you add the 2LZ option for say around $5K you're talking about $90 To $95K for a 650 H.P. monster. That my friends is a bargain. My 2011 Z07 had an MSRP of $94K.
Old 06-08-2014, 07:41 PM
  #74  
RJ-92
Race Director
 
RJ-92's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2005
Location: NY
Posts: 18,560
Received 328 Likes on 157 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by TB427Z06
Well if the base is in the $85 to $90K range and you add the 2LZ option for say around $5K you're talking about $90 To $95K for a 650 H.P. monster. That my friends is a bargain. My 2011 Z07 had an MSRP of $94K.
That's what I'm thinking. $82-$90k
Old 06-09-2014, 01:22 AM
  #75  
Michael A
Le Mans Master
 
Michael A's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2001
Location: CA
Posts: 9,635
Received 2,923 Likes on 1,365 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by TB427Z06
Well if the base is in the $85 to $90K range and you add the 2LZ option for say around $5K you're talking about $90 To $95K for a 650 H.P. monster. That my friends is a bargain. My 2011 Z07 had an MSRP of $94K.
So you are thinking $40K premium over a Mustang with the same power?

Doesn't seem like quite the bargain.

Michael
Old 06-09-2014, 09:53 AM
  #76  
TX-OU812
Racer
 
TX-OU812's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2013
Location: San Antonio Texas
Posts: 296
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Michael A
So you are thinking $40K premium over a Mustang with the same power?

Doesn't seem like quite the bargain.

Michael
Well, by that standard no Corvette is a good buy. That is, if you can get a 650hp Mustang for $ 50,000 to $ 55,000.00 and can even begin to compare the way the two cars handle.
Old 06-09-2014, 10:04 AM
  #77  
Hemi Dave
Melting Slicks
 
Hemi Dave's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2012
Location: Long Island New York
Posts: 3,421
Received 459 Likes on 212 Posts

Default

I still say base will be no higher than 79K........it's all guessing right now.....either way a couple of grand wont stop most of us from getting it if you are a serious buyer.

I still need coin to get my used exotic someday soon.............

Get notified of new replies

To Saw somewhere Z06 starts at $75?!

Old 06-09-2014, 04:21 PM
  #78  
briancb1
Burning Brakes
 
briancb1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2011
Posts: 932
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Michael A
So you are thinking $40K premium over a Mustang with the same power?

Doesn't seem like quite the bargain.

Michael
Are you really going to compare a GT500 Mustang to a C7 Z06?

Thats like bragging how big your house is in west Texas compared to a beach front loft in San Diego.

Two different worlds for two different styles there buddy.
Old 06-09-2014, 06:04 PM
  #79  
william wyatt
Burning Brakes
 
william wyatt's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,238
Received 319 Likes on 147 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Michael A
So you are thinking $40K premium over a Mustang with the same power?

Doesn't seem like quite the bargain.

Michael
Go compare your GT to the ZL thats what you should be looking at.
Old 06-09-2014, 06:14 PM
  #80  
TX-OU812
Racer
 
TX-OU812's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2013
Location: San Antonio Texas
Posts: 296
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by briancb1
Are you really going to compare a GT500 Mustang to a C7 Z06?

Thats like bragging how big your house is in west Texas compared to a beach front loft in San Diego.

Two different worlds for two different styles there buddy.


While there are stock Mustangs that have high horsepower, the handling is not even in the same ball park. Hell, not even in the same county.

Mustang cannot be mentioned in the same breath. At least not by a person that still has his/her sanity.

And, in my opinion, no Mustang has EVER been as sexy as the 650HP beast pictured below

Last edited by TX-OU812; 06-09-2014 at 09:22 PM.


Quick Reply: Saw somewhere Z06 starts at $75?!



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:20 AM.