Saw somewhere Z06 starts at $75?!
#61
Team Owner
I think you're probably much closer than other predictions I've seen. My prediction in December before the unveiling was as follows:I went through the exercise today to try to get a better handle on how much a C7Z06 might cost and how long I'd have to wait for a discount. I compared 2013 C6Z06 options to 2013 ZR1 options. You can find prices still on cars.com build your car 2013 Corvette.
Z06 Base $75600+Z07 $7500+MSR $2495+Carb Fiber. Opt $3995+ Carb. Fiber Hood $2495 = $92085. (Essentially A ZR1 with a 427 engine)
ZR1 Base $111,600. To get the additional cost of the LS9 engine &misc you get $111,600-$92085= $19515.
OK My assumptions are as follows:
C7Z06 Base will come with MSR, carbon fiber hood +LT4additional cost so I get
$75600+$2495+$2495+$10000 est.=$90590.
Additional options:
2LZ $4660
3LZ $8860
Z07 $7500
ZR1 Hi. Po package $1495
So I'd order a base 2lz for $95250
Add Z07, carbon Fiber option and Hi Po option your talking $108,240.
The big unknown is the additional cost of the LT4 engine. If it's 19,515K more like the ZR1 than my examples would range from $105,250-$117,755.
Hope it's the lower scenario but only time will tell.
Z06 Base $75600+Z07 $7500+MSR $2495+Carb Fiber. Opt $3995+ Carb. Fiber Hood $2495 = $92085. (Essentially A ZR1 with a 427 engine)
ZR1 Base $111,600. To get the additional cost of the LS9 engine &misc you get $111,600-$92085= $19515.
OK My assumptions are as follows:
C7Z06 Base will come with MSR, carbon fiber hood +LT4additional cost so I get
$75600+$2495+$2495+$10000 est.=$90590.
Additional options:
2LZ $4660
3LZ $8860
Z07 $7500
ZR1 Hi. Po package $1495
So I'd order a base 2lz for $95250
Add Z07, carbon Fiber option and Hi Po option your talking $108,240.
The big unknown is the additional cost of the LT4 engine. If it's 19,515K more like the ZR1 than my examples would range from $105,250-$117,755.
Hope it's the lower scenario but only time will tell.
I suppose they could start it at $90k, it IS worth it. But that's also a full $13k+ more than a base 2013 Z06 was, not sure they will attempt that in these trying times.
#63
Le Mans Master
In this video, Tadge says about the price of the new Z06 to just subtract $35k from the ZR1 and you have the price:
ZR1 Base: $112,600
less $35,000
= $77,600
This was in March, so add in the price increase and you have the Z06 Base price!
ZR1 Base: $112,600
less $35,000
= $77,600
This was in March, so add in the price increase and you have the Z06 Base price!
#64
Le Mans Master
It will be interesting to see what volume of 80 or 90 thousand dollar toys GM can deliver with our nations disposable income levels at a record low point. Probably see the 10K-15K discounts that were applied to the C6Zs just come sooner this time around. The guys who have to first will be bent over as expected. The bottom could fall out on these cars far quicker than some are predicting.
#65
Burning Brakes
#66
The fiberglass hood cost was just an assumption based on the extra cost on a C6 Z06, but you may be right that that's included in the base cost. The Dual mode exhaust is standard on the Z06 and no extra cost was attributed to that in my estimate. So you could knock off another $2495 off my base estimate of $90,590K for a price of $88,095. Again, the big unknown is the additional cost of the LT4, I just guessed it was 10K more. It could be less or it could be more.
Last edited by TB427Z06; 06-06-2014 at 09:54 PM.
#67
I don't think you can use a straight up percentage increase from base car to Z06 from the C6 and extrapolate to the C7.
The C6 Z06 was really a completely different low volume platform compared to the C6 coupe. The low volume aluminum, balsa wood, platform was totally different and built (partially) in a different place. The engine also, was a low volume almost hand built one.
The C7 Z06 has the same structure, the same engine block as the C7 coupe. The economies of scale are huge. In automotive production, having low volume structures and/or engines is pretty much the most expensive thing you can do.
So, I can't tell you how much more the price will be (that is mostly a marketing exercise), but I think it is pretty safe to assume that the incremental cost (over base) of the C7 Z06 is much smaller than the C6 ZO6.
Blower on top of same block - likely no more than $2.5K cost to Chevy.
Carbon torque tube, larger brakes/wheels - likely no more than $1.5K cost to Chevy.
Exclusive (wider) body panels, spoilers, etc - likely no more that $2K cost to Chevy.
So the cost delta is probably only $5K-$6K. Add 100% margin, the Z06 could be priced as low as $10K-$12K over a Z51/NPP/MagRide (which is under $60K). So that would put it in the $70K-$72K
Now the Z06 will likely have a few more items standard and Chevy will likely want higher margins on it, so add a few more $K.
$75K is not our of the question IF Chevy wants to price aggressively. Either way, I think there is no way the base will be over $80K.
The C6 Z06 was really a completely different low volume platform compared to the C6 coupe. The low volume aluminum, balsa wood, platform was totally different and built (partially) in a different place. The engine also, was a low volume almost hand built one.
The C7 Z06 has the same structure, the same engine block as the C7 coupe. The economies of scale are huge. In automotive production, having low volume structures and/or engines is pretty much the most expensive thing you can do.
So, I can't tell you how much more the price will be (that is mostly a marketing exercise), but I think it is pretty safe to assume that the incremental cost (over base) of the C7 Z06 is much smaller than the C6 ZO6.
Blower on top of same block - likely no more than $2.5K cost to Chevy.
Carbon torque tube, larger brakes/wheels - likely no more than $1.5K cost to Chevy.
Exclusive (wider) body panels, spoilers, etc - likely no more that $2K cost to Chevy.
So the cost delta is probably only $5K-$6K. Add 100% margin, the Z06 could be priced as low as $10K-$12K over a Z51/NPP/MagRide (which is under $60K). So that would put it in the $70K-$72K
Now the Z06 will likely have a few more items standard and Chevy will likely want higher margins on it, so add a few more $K.
$75K is not our of the question IF Chevy wants to price aggressively. Either way, I think there is no way the base will be over $80K.
#68
In this video, Tadge says about the price of the new Z06 to just subtract $35k from the ZR1 and you have the price:
ZR1 Base: $112,600
less $35,000
= $77,600
This was in March, so add in the price increase and you have the Z06 Base price!
TADGE JUECHTER CHIEF ENGINEER & HARLAN CHARLES PRODUCT MANAGER DISCUSS 2014 CORVETTE AT SEBRING - YouTube
ZR1 Base: $112,600
less $35,000
= $77,600
This was in March, so add in the price increase and you have the Z06 Base price!
TADGE JUECHTER CHIEF ENGINEER & HARLAN CHARLES PRODUCT MANAGER DISCUSS 2014 CORVETTE AT SEBRING - YouTube
#69
Scraping the splitter.
The fiberglass hood cost was just an assumption based on the extra cost on a C6 Z06, but you may be right that that's included in the base cost. The Dual mode exhaust is standard on the Z06 and no extra cost was attributed to that in my estimate. So you could knock off another $2495 off my base estimate of $90,590K for a price of $88,095. Again, the big unknown is the additional cost of the LT4, I just guessed it was 10K more. It could be less or it could be more.
I don't 'think' they would push it to $90k.
S.
#70
Le Mans Master
The $125K is not the base price of the ZR1....so your price of $90K would not be the base price of the new Z06.
Last edited by BOBSZ06; 06-07-2014 at 10:08 AM.
#71
#72
Le Mans Master
Michael
#73
Well if the base is in the $85 to $90K range and you add the 2LZ option for say around $5K you're talking about $90 To $95K for a 650 H.P. monster. That my friends is a bargain. My 2011 Z07 had an MSRP of $94K.
#74
Race Director
#75
Le Mans Master
Doesn't seem like quite the bargain.
Michael
#76
Racer
Well, by that standard no Corvette is a good buy. That is, if you can get a 650hp Mustang for $ 50,000 to $ 55,000.00 and can even begin to compare the way the two cars handle.
#77
Melting Slicks
I still say base will be no higher than 79K........it's all guessing right now.....either way a couple of grand wont stop most of us from getting it if you are a serious buyer.
I still need coin to get my used exotic someday soon.............
I still need coin to get my used exotic someday soon.............
#78
Thats like bragging how big your house is in west Texas compared to a beach front loft in San Diego.
Two different worlds for two different styles there buddy.
#79
#80
Racer
While there are stock Mustangs that have high horsepower, the handling is not even in the same ball park. Hell, not even in the same county.
Mustang cannot be mentioned in the same breath. At least not by a person that still has his/her sanity.
And, in my opinion, no Mustang has EVER been as sexy as the 650HP beast pictured below
Last edited by TX-OU812; 06-09-2014 at 09:22 PM.