Top Reasons Z06 will be well under $90k
01-11-2014, 10:13 PM
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01-11-2014, 10:40 PM
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Man... ill say it again, when comparing the latest entry level corvette c7 vs a similar entry level porsche; there is NOTHING the germans can do that we cant. Just find ths first c7 around and sit in it and tell me im wrong! ill eat crow!
Hell perhaps the design was a bit bland and the navigation was designed by a toodler but even the c6 had solid features that could match any german car.
Pricing has more to do woth how much the manufactures think they can get away with. A $75-78k c7 z06 starting price would be great and really drive home (AGAIN) the performance bargain (bad terminology, reinforces the stereotypes towards american cars) factor when compared to a viper, a stinking GTR and yes, an overpriced, overhyped VW beetle some people call 911's.
Hell perhaps the design was a bit bland and the navigation was designed by a toodler but even the c6 had solid features that could match any german car.
Pricing has more to do woth how much the manufactures think they can get away with. A $75-78k c7 z06 starting price would be great and really drive home (AGAIN) the performance bargain (bad terminology, reinforces the stereotypes towards american cars) factor when compared to a viper, a stinking GTR and yes, an overpriced, overhyped VW beetle some people call 911's.
01-11-2014, 10:54 PM
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Man... ill say it again, when comparing the latest entry level corvette c7 vs a similar entry level porsche; there is NOTHING the germans can do that we cant. Just find ths first c7 around and sit in it and tell me im wrong! ill eat crow!
Hell perhaps the design was a bit bland and the navigation was designed by a toodler but even the c6 had solid features that could match any german car.
Pricing has more to do woth how much the manufactures think they can get away with. A $75-78k c7 z06 starting price would be great and really drive home (AGAIN) the performance bargain (bad terminology, reinforces the stereotypes towards american cars) factor when compared to a viper, a stinking GTR and yes, an overpriced, overhyped VW beetle some people call 911's.
Hell perhaps the design was a bit bland and the navigation was designed by a toodler but even the c6 had solid features that could match any german car.
Pricing has more to do woth how much the manufactures think they can get away with. A $75-78k c7 z06 starting price would be great and really drive home (AGAIN) the performance bargain (bad terminology, reinforces the stereotypes towards american cars) factor when compared to a viper, a stinking GTR and yes, an overpriced, overhyped VW beetle some people call 911's.
what an awesome time we live in. I'm sitting at home trying to figure out what vette I want to move to next... A c6 z06, zr1, c7 z51 and even a c7 z06 if it starts under 80k! So many awesome options! And I'm in a 650hp frc that I picked up for 22k.
01-11-2014, 11:02 PM
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01-11-2014, 11:08 PM
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BTW, that FRC of yours sounds bad ***! Always liked that model. Keep it and add more!
01-12-2014, 12:42 AM
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01-12-2014, 02:11 AM
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1. Pricing the Z06 at $100k leaves open a $40,000 window of opportunity for the Z51 aftermarket.
2. When people see prices above $75,000 they are thinking Mercedes and Porsche, not Chevrolet.
3. A $90,000 car is not one that Chevy can sell a lot of. Look at the ZR1 sales figures compared to the C6 Z06.
4. There is no possible way that the Z06 could cost GM $30,000 more than a Z51, even with Supercharger, DCT, and liberal use of carbon fiber (which is already in use in the Z51), a material that GM can now source for far cheaper than it could even 5 years ago. These are not exotic components.
5. A 911 Carrera S and Nissan GT-R both have base prices right around $100,000. The number of people who would spend that kind of money on a Corvette than either of those cars is excruciatingly small.
6. The Corvette is the working man's car. GM wants this vehicle accessible to people who aren't millionaires.
7. The base price of the standard Corvette went up a whopping $2000 from 2013 to 2014 when there was clearly a ton of new technology built into the 2014 car. Why would the Z06 be any different?
As I have said before in other threads, I would bet real money this car will be priced right around $78k and might be optioned up to $90k for the full leather treatment. As is typical with GM, the car will within 6 months be sold for chunks off MSRP and by winter 2015 they will be sitting on lots and dealers will be begging you to come take them off their hands. Used ones will be had for the $60k range with low LOW miles and that is when the smart money will come grab one up.
2. When people see prices above $75,000 they are thinking Mercedes and Porsche, not Chevrolet.
3. A $90,000 car is not one that Chevy can sell a lot of. Look at the ZR1 sales figures compared to the C6 Z06.
4. There is no possible way that the Z06 could cost GM $30,000 more than a Z51, even with Supercharger, DCT, and liberal use of carbon fiber (which is already in use in the Z51), a material that GM can now source for far cheaper than it could even 5 years ago. These are not exotic components.
5. A 911 Carrera S and Nissan GT-R both have base prices right around $100,000. The number of people who would spend that kind of money on a Corvette than either of those cars is excruciatingly small.
6. The Corvette is the working man's car. GM wants this vehicle accessible to people who aren't millionaires.
7. The base price of the standard Corvette went up a whopping $2000 from 2013 to 2014 when there was clearly a ton of new technology built into the 2014 car. Why would the Z06 be any different?
As I have said before in other threads, I would bet real money this car will be priced right around $78k and might be optioned up to $90k for the full leather treatment. As is typical with GM, the car will within 6 months be sold for chunks off MSRP and by winter 2015 they will be sitting on lots and dealers will be begging you to come take them off their hands. Used ones will be had for the $60k range with low LOW miles and that is when the smart money will come grab one up.
I'll hold onto my near 600 rwhp C6Z until a mint, low mile 2016 C7Z pops up with the options I want. Unless you are keeping this car for a LONG time, I don't understand buying these types of cars new. I go through cars so often.. Spend 85-90K on a 2015 C7Z and a couple years later it's worth 20-30K less. I buy and sell way to often to buy these things brand new. I'd be throwing money in the toilet. Better to let someone else do that.
01-12-2014, 02:19 AM
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ZL1's are 60ish loaded up.
01-12-2014, 02:31 AM
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Aside from the affordability aspect of it, for me its about many other options opening up. There are lots of well kept, low mile cars available for the 100K range. They might not be as fast, but they might be a lot nicer.
01-12-2014, 02:37 AM
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I'm sure the Z06 will be fast but if I can buy a brand-new GT-R or a slightly used 911 Turbo for the same amount of money? I'm sorry, but that is a no-brainer for me.
01-12-2014, 02:40 AM
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GTR, 911 Turbo/GT3, R8, Gallardo, FGT. The list can continue. These can all be had somewhere around 100K or even less.
01-12-2014, 07:01 AM
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The attraction of the C7 for me was the low price considering all the new technology in it, and good looks. I thought of waiting for a new Z06, but assumed they would over price it, and it would not be comfortable to drive on the street, so I pulled the trigger on the Z51, and I'm keeping my GT-R, which I assume will still be faster on track. There is no way I would pay $100k for a Z06. I would just buy a new GT-R or new Porsche, as they are really very nicely fitted and great driving cars. If the Z06 comes in at $78,000, then I might drive the C7 for a while and trade up assuming its not bone jarring on the road, but at $100k, it would be a certain pass for me. GT-R sales have really dropped once the price hit the 6 figure mark. People just buy Porsches and other fancier cars when price hits that high. They don't want to buy a Nissan or a Chevrolet. Ever go to a Nissan dealer or a Chevrolet dealer and compare that experience to a Porsche dealership?
01-12-2014, 08:10 AM
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Well I own an GT-R and have ordered a C7 Z51 with a few options which I got discounted to $58,500. I was thinking of buying a C6Z back in 2008 with options and thought it was way expensive considering the interior fittings. Then came along the GT-R at its low intro price into the marketplace, and that was killer fast, and very well kitted out, had no extra options to bring up the price, so I bought that. The year I bought it I saw an optioned up C6Z at a car show which was almost $20k more than the GT-R, so buying the GT-R was a no-brainer. It has been dead reliable for 5 years with tons of track use.
The attraction of the C7 for me was the low price considering all the new technology in it, and good looks. I thought of waiting for a new Z06, but assumed they would over price it, and it would not be comfortable to drive on the street, so I pulled the trigger on the Z51, and I'm keeping my GT-R, which I assume will still be faster on track. There is no way I would pay $100k for a Z06. I would just buy a new GT-R or new Porsche, as they are really very nicely fitted and great driving cars. If the Z06 comes in at $78,000, then I might drive the C7 for a while and trade up assuming its not bone jarring on the road, but at $100k, it would be a certain pass for me. GT-R sales have really dropped once the price hit the 6 figure mark. People just buy Porsches and other fancier cars when price hits that high. They don't want to buy a Nissan or a Chevrolet. Ever go to a Nissan dealer or a Chevrolet dealer and compare that experience to a Porsche dealership?
The attraction of the C7 for me was the low price considering all the new technology in it, and good looks. I thought of waiting for a new Z06, but assumed they would over price it, and it would not be comfortable to drive on the street, so I pulled the trigger on the Z51, and I'm keeping my GT-R, which I assume will still be faster on track. There is no way I would pay $100k for a Z06. I would just buy a new GT-R or new Porsche, as they are really very nicely fitted and great driving cars. If the Z06 comes in at $78,000, then I might drive the C7 for a while and trade up assuming its not bone jarring on the road, but at $100k, it would be a certain pass for me. GT-R sales have really dropped once the price hit the 6 figure mark. People just buy Porsches and other fancier cars when price hits that high. They don't want to buy a Nissan or a Chevrolet. Ever go to a Nissan dealer or a Chevrolet dealer and compare that experience to a Porsche dealership?
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01-12-2014, 02:31 PM
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C7Z will come in at 80k for a stripped down model, and loaded I bet they will be topping out at 95k. If we knew that for sure there is gonna be a C7 ZR1, then I would tend to agree more that the Z06 would be in the 70's or low 80;'s . Assuming there will be no C7ZR1 , the Z06 I am guessing we are looking easily at an 80k car to start with and then add from there.
As stated before, we'll all know in less than a day
As stated before, we'll all know in less than a day
01-12-2014, 02:42 PM
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Well, Viper's sell up to 140+k...and this Z will be in that caliber, if not higher. At 100k, it would still be 40k less than the GTS - and if the Z28 is 75k...I can see a loaded Z06 being 95k, easily...
01-12-2014, 02:47 PM
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Some people are trying to convince themselves and others that this car will come in at aorund $78,000. Given that the Z06 Carbon Edition had an MSRP of around $90,000, and the price of the ZR1 of around $115,000, it only makes sense that GM would price the Z06 accordingly. People on here think that if they say something enough it will happen, well it won't. This Z06 is going to more than likely surpass the 2013 ZR1 in performance and as such will garner the same price or close. I predict a starting MSRP of $92,000-94,000. It could be more given that some items have yet to be revealed. Time will tell but if it does come in lower, the dealers will mark up the hell out of them because they will be in such high demand. If they list for $78,000 then expect dealer markups of at least $15,000-$25,000. Who knows? It won't be long now. Either way people will have their checkbooks ready.
01-12-2014, 02:47 PM
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I have 2 FGT's...and you couldn't buy either one for under 230k...which is what I have been offered by several dealers for the less valuable one. We won't even talk about the other one.
