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Old 12-06-2013, 03:06 PM
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Do you think the C7 Z06 will weigh more or less than the C6 Z06?

I am very interested to find out the weight of the new C7 Z06. If the car ends up being super charged, that is a weigh adder. The carbon ceramic brakes could be about 25 lbs lighter than the Z51 brakes. If there is no multi displacement, the torque tube could be made of aluminum versus steel. The wheels and tires could be a bit lighter than the previous generation. Maybe a light weight exhaust? Where else could the engineers find weight savings?
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The C7 Z51 weights some 170 pounds more than the C6 Z06 and the C7 Z06 will weigh more than the C7 Z51. Throw a 100 pound supercharger on the C7 Z51 and where do you remove 270 pounds to make it as light as the C6 Z06?

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Originally Posted by JoesC5
The C7 Z51 weights some 170 pounds more than the C6 Z06 and the C7 Z06 will weigh more than the C7 Z51. Throw a 100 pound supercharger on the C7 Z51 and where do you remove 270 pounds to make it as light as the C6 Z06?
Well, the OP had some good ideas, and there is always more CF in the body panels, magnesium in some frame bits, a bit less sound deadening, maybe lighter seats with fewer adjustments, etc.

Plus, the blower being integrated with the intake manifold might result in only a very small weight penalty!

They can easily get the weight DOWN to 3,100 lbs. Question is whether the performance and bragging rights are worth cost and "livability" penalties. They'll make that judgement on their analysis of what maximizes the bottom line.
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i dont know that it will be lighter than the C6 z but im sure they will have more carbon fiber parts, lighter breaks and less sound deading material to offset the weight of the supercharger. I bet it will be around the same weight as the Z51 C7 but have so much more power.

Maybe later they will add more light weight materials to some of the bigger inner body parts to make it even lighter. We will see soon.
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No LT1 displacement on demand hardware and getting rid of the heavy steel torque tube used on the Stingray should net some nice weight savings. I still expect it to be heavier than the C6 Z06.
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Originally Posted by Bad_AX
Do you think the C7 Z06 will weigh more or less than the C6 Z06?

I am very interested to find out the weight of the new C7 Z06. If the car ends up being super charged, that is a weigh adder. The carbon ceramic brakes could be about 25 lbs lighter than the Z51 brakes. If there is no multi displacement, the torque tube could be made of aluminum versus steel. The wheels and tires could be a bit lighter than the previous generation. Maybe a light weight exhaust? Where else could the engineers find weight savings?
Every ounce shaved above the beltline serves dual purposes of weight savings and lowering CG. Thinner glass, possibly even glass substitute in some places. Lighter hardware on fixed roof attachments.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
The C7 Z51 weights some 170 pounds more than the C6 Z06 and the C7 Z06 will weigh more than the C7 Z51. Throw a 100 pound supercharger on the C7 Z51 and where do you remove 270 pounds to make it as light as the C6 Z06?
Still lots of places to look.

Carbon brakes (a given) -8lb/wheel
Non ZP tires (std MPSC) -7lb/wheel
Carbon wheels -10lb/wheel
Delete power seats + carbon race buckets -75lb
Lexan hatch -10lb
Carbon front wheel fenders -15lb in the front where it counts

The weight loss in the wheels would have a huge effect on handling.
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Originally Posted by rcallen484
Every ounce shaved above the beltline serves dual purposes of weight savings and lowering CG. Thinner glass, possibly even glass substitute in some places. Lighter hardware on fixed roof attachments.
A fixed roof would be lighter yet.
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Originally Posted by TTRotary
Still lots of places to look.

Carbon brakes (a given) -8lb/wheel
Non ZP tires (std MPSC) -7lb/wheel
Carbon wheels -10lb/wheel
Delete power seats + carbon race buckets -75lb
Lexan hatch -10lb
Carbon front wheel fenders -15lb in the front where it counts

The weight loss in the wheels would have a huge effect on handling.
The carbon disk are very light, those ginormous calipers actually add weight offsetting some of the savings.

I don't have any expectation of seeing Lexan, CF wheels or race buckets from the factory.
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Originally Posted by Bad_AX
The carbon disk are very light, those ginormous calipers actually add weight offsetting some of the savings.

I don't have any expectation of seeing Lexan, CF wheels or race buckets from the factory.
But the calipers aren't rotating mass. Just more weight about as low as possible. Better center gravity
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Originally Posted by TTRotary
Still lots of places to look.

Carbon brakes (a given) -8lb/wheel
Non ZP tires (std MPSC) -7lb/wheel
Carbon wheels -10lb/wheel
Delete power seats + carbon race buckets -75lb
Lexan hatch -10lb
Carbon front wheel fenders -15lb in the front where it counts

The weight loss in the wheels would have a huge effect on handling.
Lets see! Doubt the carbon wheels not yet1
Tires stay because of the RF is needed.
Carbon fenders are old news but they could do the rear ones.
Don't want lexan windows still not a full race car!
Or the race buckets with no power! Doubt that too!
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Originally Posted by Bad_AX
Do you think the C7 Z06 will weigh more or less than the C6 Z06?

I am very interested to find out the weight of the new C7 Z06. If the car ends up being super charged, that is a weigh adder. The carbon ceramic brakes could be about 25 lbs lighter than the Z51 brakes. If there is no multi displacement, the torque tube could be made of aluminum versus steel. The wheels and tires could be a bit lighter than the previous generation. Maybe a light weight exhaust? Where else could the engineers find weight savings?
They would have to go to helium airbags inflated under the fenders in the tire's and a special liner in the frame all from the factory.
Otherwise no!
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But the calipers aren't rotating mass. Just more weight about as low as possible. Better center gravity
Weight is undesirable, and unsprung weight is especially undesirable.
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Cant help but recall these threads before the base C7 came out and ALLLLLL those folks that thought the C7 would be sub 3000lbs.

What it will weigh I can't begin to guess until the motor is revealed but I'd assume a properly branded "Z06" HAS to weigh less than the base model but just basing that off the history of the model.

Lighter than a C6Z, I'd guess not likely but would be very cool if it is.

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Originally Posted by TTRotary
Still lots of places to look.

Carbon brakes (a given) -8lb/wheel
Non ZP tires (std MPSC) -7lb/wheel
Carbon wheels -10lb/wheel
Delete power seats + carbon race buckets -75lb
Lexan hatch -10lb
Carbon front wheel fenders -15lb in the front where it counts

The weight loss in the wheels would have a huge effect on handling.
You do realize the non-carbon C6 fenders were a mere 3lbs heavier, TOTAL(both), compared to the carbon Z06/ZR1 ones right? 15lbs is a serious dream based off that knowledge.
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They arent going to do carbon wheels on a road car for under 100k i would be damn surprised and would eat crow if so
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Assuming maybe 60lbs off the stingray. Don't ask me how but I figure it's reasonable some how.


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