Hawkerpilot62

Fellas, I have a ‘16 C7 Z06 A8 that I just finished putting an AFE CAI on and I’m about to slap on an AFE off-road x-pipe and Borla ATAK exhaust.
I’ve been considering a cam, (nothing crazy, mind you) and LTH w/HF Cats a local high performance shop will do for about $6500. with a tune.
So here goes: this is a daily driver for me that will not see a track. Maybe a strip, but even that would be rare. I’d really like to have that “idle.”
Thoughts??

Thank you, gentlemen.

ss2z06

Performance wise it’s totally unnecessary with the mods you’ve listed. However if it’s a pure idle reason then it’s the only way you’ll get it. Definitely make sure the shop is extremely familiar with these cars. Does the $6500 include the headers, cats, cam, all necessary parts for the swap, tune and the hp tuner credits? If so, that seems really cheap and I’d be worried. The parts alone (good quality) and hp tuner credits will cost about $5000-$5500 and no shop is doing that job for the difference.

Hawkerpilot62

That is with everything included. I could PM you their quote if interested. Not sure what “tuner credits” are. The cam and associated materials are coming from Texas Speed shop. It had an Halltek CAI and I won’t need that.

Ron

MiNuS31

What part of texas you live?...I went to a local shop here in houston and had them add a stage 3 cam and MSD atomic air intake manifold on my C7 M7 with a tune...all parts and labor included...but the cam package offered alone with tune is $3500...but I paid $1200 for the manifold and taxes etc...just over $5k out the door...total mods on my car is CAI, Kooks Headers, X Pipe, Corsa Extreme Exhaust, MSD manifold, Stage 3 Cam, Tune...idle is just perfect for me...can meet up one weekend if ya live close by to check it out...but performance wise I notice a difference adding the cam...but I just got it mainly for the acoustics...wouldn't be worth the HP gains/performane for the price alone in my opinion...

Hawkerpilot62

Hey bud, thanks for the reply. I live just West of Ft. Worth. I have a couple other shops shooting me quotes now. Baileys adjusted mine down to about $6500. since I am proving the exhaust with the X-pipe. They’re adding the cam and LTH’s with a tune for that number. He says he can guarantee me 700 to the wheels.

Ron

0JUICED1

We usually recommend doing a cam on these cars. The TSP stage 2 cam makes a great roots style blower cam since it has zero overlap. It has a solid chop but still drives excellent with zero surging or stalling. The nice thing is if you decide to add more power down the road you always end up needing a cam for the high side fuel system. Having the cam already taken care of allows you to push it harder when you're ready.

We usually charge $2300 for the install and tune on a cam plus an oil change. Cam/dod delete kits will run you around $1200-1400 and headers can range from $500-2500 depending on quality.

Avanti

From what you say, I'd call it a waste of resources.

MiNuS31

For me im happier with my car...that’s all that matters...I knew what I was buying and expected...of course the performance gains help as well but I just drive it on the weekends and wanted a nice cam sound with a performance boost...win win for me...no Lewis Hamilton over here...

LT1pwrd'94

If you haven't already, contact Matt at Dedicated Motorsports. He's in Weatherford, they do fantastic work. Top notch tuning on these Gen 5 LT motors..

Thuggishcoot42

what HP gains did you get ? I was told tune plus lth is 40 hp and cam is like 80hp

Thuggishcoot42

what HP gains did you get ? I was told tune plus lth is 40 hp and cam is like 80hp

MiNuS31

I got 495RWHP...not sure what stock GS RWHP is...

2ZORNOT2Z

If you are doing LTH you can't use your AFE X-pipe so don't put that on, you have to buy the X-pipe that mates to the LTH (Kooks or ARH - do not do TSP headers on a Z06, they don't fit right or didn't on my Z anyway - you get what you pay for with Kooks or ARH). I would wait to put the ATAK on as well until you hear the LTs with the NPP. It's nascar loud in sport/track with NPP, will be louder wit ATAK and that doesn't add any power anyway. I'm not sure you'll end up at 700 rwhp with just the mods you listed unless you add a pulley or E85. That lope will sound awesome though!

Lancevance

I was quoted $7700 just for a cam. Cam and heads was $10k. This is what they said was necessary for a reliable cam swap:

camshaft, phaser lockout kit, phaser bolt, ARP cam bolts, cam gasket w/hardware, timing cover gasket set, oil pan gasket/rvt, ARP crank bolt, BTR dual valve springs w/titanium retainers, hardened pushrods, NGK spark plugs, MSD spark plug wires w/heat socks, Mobil 1 oil, oil filter, coolant, GM LT1 head gaskets, GM LT1 exhaust gaskets, LS7 lifters, LS7 lifter trays, ARP LT1 head bolts.

MiNuS31

What shop gave you that quote?...my cam package plug air intake manifold was 5k...from SeriousHP...car runs and sounds great...

Lancevance

American heritage performance in SoCal. I decided against it ultimately. $7.7k is a lot of money, and I'd have emissions issues and it would hurt resale value too. They also said the car would have to be in the shop for 5 weeks and it's my daily...so car rental would be another $1.5k.

They said it's for offroad use only and that I wouldn't be able to pass the annual smog check. All that seems like a lot of hassle for 80 extra hp. I like NA engines, so I guess I'll just save up for the C8 Z06, which is supposed to be a flat pane crank NA V8.

$5k sounds more reasonable though.