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I had the Hurst billet shifter in my C5Z06 and throws were shorter but even without springs the effort for 6th and reverse was a little too high.
Core shifters has a shifter that uses Hurst billet plus 2 internals with old style Hurst chrome stick (the stick is changeable) and ****, and a modified base to fit the Corvette.
I bought one for my Z06 and transferred it to the C7... It has the perfect combination of short throw without excessive effort for higher gears. It does have a positive "click" when it goes into gear, so no doubt it is there.
From manufacturer:
"This Core Shifter has many superior features integrated into a unique, exclusive base assembly:
CNC-machined billet steel gear selector w/ forged upper section and black e-coat finish
Spherical pivot mechanism with a centralized spring-loaded, self-lubricating low friction polymer interface
Lack of bias springs minimizes effort to enter reverse and 5-6 gate
Reduced leverage enhances OE detent force for improved 2-3 shift
CNC-machined 6061-T6 aluminum housing sized for a tight fit around factory closeout boot
Zinc-plated laser-cut steel base-plate
Vibration-resistant serrated flange head steel retaining bolts
Simple, effective, and durable
High quality and outstanding value! "
As you said, Hurst has been the standard for shifters for almost 60 years.
Internals are from Hurst billet plus 2 shown below, with a custom base...
From manufacturer:
"This Core Shifter has many superior features integrated into a unique, exclusive base assembly:
CNC-machined billet steel gear selector w/ forged upper section and black e-coat finish
Spherical pivot mechanism with a centralized spring-loaded, self-lubricating low friction polymer interface
Lack of bias springs minimizes effort to enter reverse and 5-6 gate
Reduced leverage enhances OE detent force for improved 2-3 shift
CNC-machined 6061-T6 aluminum housing sized for a tight fit around factory closeout boot
Zinc-plated laser-cut steel base-plate
Vibration-resistant serrated flange head steel retaining bolts
Simple, effective, and durable
High quality and outstanding value! "
As you said, Hurst has been the standard for shifters for almost 60 years.
Internals are from Hurst billet plus 2 shown below, with a custom base...
Looks like all this is, design of a shaft with a ball in a socket of low friction materials. I don't see how this could provide better shift gate definition....can some one help me on this?
I get it might be a shorter throw based on lengths, but shift feel is all about the gates and loads......I like the look of the Hurst, but, looks isn't everything....help me understand!
Looks like all this is, design of a shaft with a ball in a socket of low friction materials. I don't see how this could provide better shift gate definition....can some one help me on this?
I get it might be a shorter throw based on lengths, but shift feel is all about the gates and loads......I like the look of the Hurst, but, looks isn't everything....help me understand!
You are right that almost all of the way the shifter feels is controlled inside the transmission...
The geometry of the shifter can be used to shorten the throw, and help minimize the increase in shift effort created by the shorter throw...
The trick is finding a compromise of length of throw and shifting effort. Basically, all you are doing is changing the pivot point of the shifter stick.
I mainly changed to the Hurst shifter because I like the retro look, but honestly, the throw is about the same as the stock shifter..However, the Hurst shifter does have a more positive feel that the gear is fully engaged with a noticeable click.
The stock shifter below does have more vibration dampening...
I think the aftermarket shifters were a big improvement over the stock shifter in my C5 Z06, but not so much better than the stock C7 shifter.
The MGW is miles ahead of the others in quality and construction.
Aircraft craft quality stainless. Complete different design.
Don't be fooled by the others. Even the Hurst billet is just a shifter the MGW is a whole program with a superior shifter.
The stock shifter box is removed. You insulate the pocket the MGW shifter box goes you end up with a cooler quieter console.
The stock is stamped steel and pot metal.
If you could look at the under side of the MGW you can see the robustness and how it is not a ball on a stick like the stock piece and Hurst and the rest are very ho hum compared.
You are right that almost all of the way the shifter feels is controlled inside the transmission...
The geometry of the shifter can be used to shorten the throw, and help minimize the increase in shift effort created by the shorter throw...
The trick is finding a compromise of length of throw and shifting effort. Basically, all you are doing is changing the pivot point of the shifter stick.
I mainly changed to the Hurst shifter because I like the retro look, but honestly, the throw is about the same as the stock shifter..However, the Hurst shifter does have a more positive feel that the gear is fully engaged with a noticeable click.
The stock shifter below does have more vibration dampening...
I think the aftermarket shifters were a big improvement over the stock shifter in my C5 Z06, but not so much better than the stock C7 shifter.
You couldn't be more all wet than the last statement!
Originally Posted by firstgear
Looks like all this is, design of a shaft with a ball in a socket of low friction materials. I don't see how this could provide better shift gate definition....can some one help me on this?
I get it might be a shorter throw based on lengths, but shift feel is all about the gates and loads......I like the look of the Hurst, but, looks isn't everything....help me understand!
Out of curiosity, how does the effort required to shift gears compare between the stock and MGW? All else being equal, a shorter throw will require higher effort, but obviously everything else isn't equal.
Is there a site that shows all the MGW shifter *****? Looks like you can order a few different ones.
Well I think it all depends on if you go with the stock boot option or if you choose the flat stick option. With the flat stick option you get to choose the color of the stick (red, silver, grey, blue), and then choose either between a white or a black ball ****. If you go with the stock look option you just re-use the stock shift **** (specify c6 or c7), or you can opt for a 9/16-18 threaded shaft and choose between the "race ****" or the "gripper ****"
Out of curiosity, how does the effort required to shift gears compare between the stock and MGW? All else being equal, a shorter throw will require higher effort, but obviously everything else isn't equal.
Everyone says the MGW has a shorter throw than the stock shifter, but no one ever posts what the throw is... The stock shifter throw is only about 3 inches from 3rd to 4th, so the MGW cannot be that much less.
My Hurst shifter feels more precise than the stock shifter, but the throw is only about 1/8th inch less.
I did see a Hinson shifter that claims to have a 2 inch throw, but the shift effort increase is significant.
08-10-2015, 08:39 PM
Comparison of MGW and Hurst shifters
now I haven't tried the hurst in a c7 but over the years I've had or tried in c5's, c6, Cobras etc. the Mgw was my favorite by a longshot 
You couldn't be more all wet than the last statement! 
