ECS Supercharger Dyno Numbers
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ECS Supercharger Dyno Numbers
Had an ECS Supercharger kit installed this week on an otherwise stock c7 Auto. Here are the dyne numbers after 7 runs. I sat in the waiting room while the dyno runs were performed. Honest Opinions please. My honest opinion....disappointed. fyi. smaller restricter plate installed, (7psi) tuned for 93. No idea what pre SC HP was as they didn't dyno it before the install and don't ask how much boost it was actually making, they couldn't answer that question either. Don't get me wrong. I think the ECS kit quality is top notch, but I have my doubts about all the claims that the resellers and manufacturers are making. I also understand there can be significant differences between an Auto and Manual. I just want to make sure I am getting the most bang for my $7000.00 sc install.
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Dang, seems low. Most centri kits our seeing 40% increase with 7 PSI. Let's say your base line stock was 390 rwhp with an auto. Add 40% and that gets you 540 ++. And seems like the Tq falls off pretty rapidly. Keep us posted... BTW, how does the car feel on the street?
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I think you'd be even lower if they used smoothing factor 5 that doesnt have as much peak and valleys on the graph. Seems off
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It's low. You most likely have a boost leak. You can hear it if you do. Tighten up all the clamps, especially the blower outlet. Mine did this, was a loose blower outlet clamp.
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I will check everything when I get a chance. Not sure what to listen for. Wouldnt the shop that installed ir and tuned it hear a leak if it was present? It runs ok but im not sure what a sc c7 should feel like. It shifts hard, the boost feels better compared to stock acceleration of coarse but I dont have that Hell yeah feeling I expected. Idles fine, drivability seems ok but not as nice as stock was. I actually just got back from a quick run across the bridge. Raced a new BMW M6. We were neck and neck. That suckes too. Cant seem to get any good answers from the shop that installed it or ECS thus far. I will try to be patient but if I dont get some answers soon I will have to pursue other avenues. Chris from ECS initially emailed me back asking a few questions and did email my tune file to their tuner for review I did not hear back from them.
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Those numbers look good for someone not playing the turn off the knock sensor game. These cars have ton's of false knock, some tuners will turn them down, others will completely turn them off. The truck's don't have this issue but the vette's for some dumb reason do. This is the problem you are seeing w/ all the different numbers is those who are making high power w/ just a blower have their sensors turned off or damn near, I guarantee it!
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I will check everything when I get a chance. Not sure what to listen for. Wouldnt the shop that installed ir and tuned it hear a leak if it was present? It runs ok but im not sure what a sc c7 should feel like. It shifts hard, the boost feels better compared to stock acceleration of coarse but I dont have that Hell yeah feeling I expected. Idles fine, drivability seems ok but not as nice as stock was. I actually just got back from a quick run across the bridge. Raced a new BMW M6. We were neck and neck. That suckes too. Cant seem to get any good answers from the shop that installed it or ECS thus far. I will try to be patient but if I dont get some answers soon I will have to pursue other avenues. Chris from ECS initially emailed me back asking a few questions and did email my tune file to their tuner for review I did not hear back from them.
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Those numbers look good for someone not playing the turn off the knock sensor game. These cars have ton's of false knock, some tuners will turn them down, others will completely turn them off. The truck's don't have this issue but the vette's for some dumb reason do. This is the problem you are seeing w/ all the different numbers is those who are making high power w/ just a blower have their sensors turned off or damn near, I guarantee it!
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This is typically where we see, but we also start with the 8 lb restrictor so I could see a little lower power, but I have never had a car even close to 500.
I'll be happy to help any way we can, I will be back in the office on Monday, feel free to call and speak with me then and we'll see what we can figure out here.
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Had an ECS Supercharger kit installed this week on an otherwise stock c7 Auto. Here are the dyne numbers after 7 runs. I sat in the waiting room while the dyno runs were performed. Honest Opinions please. My honest opinion....disappointed. fyi. smaller restricter plate installed, (7psi) tuned for 93. No idea what pre SC HP was as they didn't dyno it before the install and don't ask how much boost it was actually making, they couldn't answer that question either. Don't get me wrong. I think the ECS kit quality is top notch, but I have my doubts about all the claims that the resellers and manufacturers are making. I also understand there can be significant differences between an Auto and Manual. I just want to make sure I am getting the most bang for my $7000.00 sc install.
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I bet the car has 9-10 degrees of timing in it, adjust the knock sensors and, not off! And it'll take some more timing and watch that number climb!
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This is typically where we see, but we also start with the 8 lb restrictor so I could see a little lower power, but I have never had a car even close to 500.
I'll be happy to help any way we can, I will be back in the office on Monday, feel free to call and speak with me then and we'll see what we can figure out here.
I'll be happy to help any way we can, I will be back in the office on Monday, feel free to call and speak with me then and we'll see what we can figure out here.
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Had an ECS Supercharger kit installed this week on an otherwise stock c7 Auto. Here are the dyne numbers after 7 runs. I sat in the waiting room while the dyno runs were performed. Honest Opinions please. My honest opinion....disappointed. fyi. smaller restricter plate installed, (7psi) tuned for 93. No idea what pre SC HP was as they didn't dyno it before the install and don't ask how much boost it was actually making, they couldn't answer that question either. Don't get me wrong. I think the ECS kit quality is top notch, but I have my doubts about all the claims that the resellers and manufacturers are making. I also understand there can be significant differences between an Auto and Manual. I just want to make sure I am getting the most bang for my $7000.00 sc install.
I have a C7, Z51, A6 and I'll be getting my ECS installed and tuned later this month. My tuner is very highly regarded. I will be following this thread closely. By the way, a properly tuned C7 with a S/C should easily spank an M6.
Also, when I get my car on the rollers, I will post the results here. Good luck.
Mariano (Alfie)
Last edited by Mariano; 10-04-2014 at 10:15 PM.
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Can you post your dyno charts here? If you have an ECS, be sure to include which restrictor plate was installed .
Thanks, Mariano (Alfie)
Last edited by Mariano; 10-05-2014 at 10:25 PM.
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I will again when I am off the mobile site.
UPDATE: I am having Speed Inc. Install and tune looked at by people who know far more than me about ECS kit and tuning in general. I kind of no BS type of guy so I will provide details once available. I will let everyone know what did or didnt happen to make my C7 perform poorly after the install.Again, I think the kit quality is very good. I am comparing the install instructions provide by ECS to my install. Checking hoses, checking QC fittings, pulleys, tensioner, blow off etc. Making sure everything was installed properly. I will have a full report later. Turning the tune files over to an expert. I trust his skills and if anyone can help me straighten this out its him. If not for the 1000 mile gap between he and I, I would have driven the car to him first. Thanks for the posts everyone. Good information.
UPDATE: I am having Speed Inc. Install and tune looked at by people who know far more than me about ECS kit and tuning in general. I kind of no BS type of guy so I will provide details once available. I will let everyone know what did or didnt happen to make my C7 perform poorly after the install.Again, I think the kit quality is very good. I am comparing the install instructions provide by ECS to my install. Checking hoses, checking QC fittings, pulleys, tensioner, blow off etc. Making sure everything was installed properly. I will have a full report later. Turning the tune files over to an expert. I trust his skills and if anyone can help me straighten this out its him. If not for the 1000 mile gap between he and I, I would have driven the car to him first. Thanks for the posts everyone. Good information.