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Old 07-15-2014, 09:29 AM
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I second the meth kit.
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Originally Posted by Frans96ss
We have been using the A&A kits with great success. Heres one we did with only engine mods are headers and a supercharger.

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How many psi of boost?
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Originally Posted by Grand Sport Man
How many psi of boost?
8 psi
Old 07-15-2014, 05:17 PM
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What is the typical weight gain in these SC installations? Any noted changes to ride and handling?
Old 07-15-2014, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BarneyZ
What is the typical weight gain in these SC installations? Any noted changes to ride and handling?

Roughly 60-65lbs, I never weighed what is removed for the install. So that's roughly a little over a half tank of gas. You're pretty good if you can feel that difference.
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
Roughly 60-65lbs, I never weighed what is removed for the install. So that's roughly a little over a half tank of gas. You're pretty good if you can feel that difference.
Good news, much less than I would have guessed. Thanks!
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I've installed a procharger on a new C7 Z51 Auto. I thought it was a very simple install, should take 10 hours or so.

Which ever kit you go with, I'd recommend NOT going with long tube headers. You will get an increase noise/vibration from DI and AFM and a loss in boost/hp unless you opt for a smaller pulley.
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Originally Posted by n8dogg
I've installed a procharger on a new C7 Z51 Auto. I thought it was a very simple install, should take 10 hours or so.

Which ever kit you go with, I'd recommend NOT going with long tube headers. You will get an increase noise/vibration from DI and AFM and a loss in boost/hp unless you opt for a smaller pulley.
Wow...hope rhe issues you raise regarding Long Tubes are not true as that combo is going on my vehicle. How substantially different is the loss in boost/hp and noise/vibration vs shorties?


Think there are a few folk who have gone with LTs in combo with their S/ C sytem.
Old 07-16-2014, 03:33 PM
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You may lose boost pressure, but due a the reduction in back pressure it would not be a loss of any airflow. Airflow is what you're after, boost is just a method people use to measure forced induction airflow.
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Originally Posted by spaceaholic
Wow...hope rhe issues you raise regarding Long Tubes are not true as that combo is going on my vehicle. How substantially different is the loss in boost/hp and noise/vibration vs shorties?


Think there are a few folk who have gone with LTs in combo with their S/ C sytem.
I completely disagree with not adding LT's. I added ARH LT's with my ECS kit and sound turns heads everywhere. I doubt you will ever notice a couple horsepower after adding the supercharger.
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I has been mentioned time and time again in here, and confirmed by shops as well, that besides for the sound factor, long tube headers add very little power at moderate boost levels (7 - 9 PSI). Now if you add boost, cam, meth, and say over 13 pounds of boost, then long tube headers will make a difference power wise, as the stock manifolds may be a bottle neck/restriction at higher power levels.
Old 07-16-2014, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Translator
I has been mentioned time and time again in here, and confirmed by shops as well, that besides for the sound factor, long tube headers add very little power at moderate boost levels (7 - 9 PSI). Now if you add boost, cam, meth, and say over 13 pounds of boost, then long tube headers will make a difference power wise, as the stock manifolds may be a bottle neck/restriction at higher power levels.
We spend $1200 for NPP for 5HP and better sound. What's another $2k for 10-20HP and MUCH better sound?
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Originally Posted by runutzzzzz
We spend $1200 for NPP for 5HP and better sound. What's another $2k for 10-20HP and MUCH better sound?
Well, the NPP is now going to be standard with the Z51 package. So no choice regarding the NPP, if you want the Z51 from this moment on forwards. However, you also have to factor in installation for headers. So you have $1200 for the NPP compared to around $2500 installed for headers (plus tune needed as well; so another $500.00 or so (3K total), if not supercharging - tune needed anyways).
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My supercharger is in, tuned, and amazing. It took time and I was impatient with the tune issues from Edelbrock but I must say Grabiak did one heck of a job, it's amazing. It's beyond my expectations I must recall my negative comments about the Edelbrock system. My son in law has an SLP on his Camaro and it's nice but not in the realm of this. I'm absolutely satisfied and thanks to the Edelbrock guy that emailed me and helped, I owe you a beer.
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Originally Posted by Mike15239
My supercharger is in, tuned, and amazing. It took time and I was impatient with the tune issues from Edelbrock but I must say Grabiak did one heck of a job, it's amazing. It's beyond my expectations I must recall my negative comments about the Edelbrock system. My son in law has an SLP on his Camaro and it's nice but not in the realm of this. I'm absolutely satisfied and thanks to the Edelbrock guy that emailed me and helped, I owe you a beer.
Please post pics., a video, and dyno sheet.
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HP you can't see but you can hear the ARH at WOT!!!!! well worth the money. Supercharger, Headers, Meth enjoy.
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Originally Posted by spaceaholic
Wow...hope rhe issues you raise regarding Long Tubes are not true as that combo is going on my vehicle. How substantially different is the loss in boost/hp and noise/vibration vs shorties?


Think there are a few folk who have gone with LTs in combo with their S/ C sytem.
I can only speak from experience with the procharger kit and ARH. Loss of 2psi in boost due to the headers. Procharger recommended a smaller pulley to raise the boost to the 7psi the kit is advertised to do. The car dyno'd at 540 HP and 600 ft/lbs to the wheels.

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Old 07-17-2014, 09:49 AM
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Boost is a measurement of resistance.

A devices ability to flow air is not directly representative of the amount of "boost" one would have.

CFM when related to Air flow in this application is more complicated to know in most setups but is what really represents the amount of potential power one can make.


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Originally Posted by Motohead279
I second the meth kit.
I understand very little about the meth for superchargers. Is it needed? How does it help, can it be more harmful to your engine in the long run. Can someone explain why you would or would not use meth? Thanks
Old 07-17-2014, 07:37 PM
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Mines a daily driver! Running very well! C7 is so much more fun with a blower kit! Best MPG 28.2 ave 20 all around ave with out
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