Passenger Door uneven gap/spacing
#1
Passenger Door uneven gap/spacing
Check out and measure your driver's door gaps and compare to your passenger's door.
My driver's door gaps (the space/gap between the door edge and the fender) are an even 3/16 inch for both the front hinge and back latch. PERFECT!
On the other hand, my passenger door has a wide gap at the front hinge (more than a 1/4 inch), and almost no gap at all the rear edge.
I noticed this on virtually all dealer inventory and internet photos as well. From photos, it is more noticeable in lighter colors.
I am having my passenger door adjusted 1/16 inch forward to make it even all around, but in so doing, the rear striker may need to have a spacer inserted to latch properly.
Weird.
Anyone else notice this issue?
My driver's door gaps (the space/gap between the door edge and the fender) are an even 3/16 inch for both the front hinge and back latch. PERFECT!
On the other hand, my passenger door has a wide gap at the front hinge (more than a 1/4 inch), and almost no gap at all the rear edge.
I noticed this on virtually all dealer inventory and internet photos as well. From photos, it is more noticeable in lighter colors.
I am having my passenger door adjusted 1/16 inch forward to make it even all around, but in so doing, the rear striker may need to have a spacer inserted to latch properly.
Weird.
Anyone else notice this issue?
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I just do NOT understand why they cannot or choose not to properly align/adjust these body panels/gaps properly from the get go when these cars are being assembled at the factory? The same goes for the paint process/quality that so many are complaining about.
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The document outlines the procedure, and let's say it's... involved.
That would explain why they wouldn't want to do it to all of them - only for the ones that complain. Fairly logical from a business standpoint, but still.
That would explain why they wouldn't want to do it to all of them - only for the ones that complain. Fairly logical from a business standpoint, but still.
#6
I can understand that the procedure may be difficult AFTER the car is built; but it should not be difficult while the car is in the process of being assembled at the factory.
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My gap is OK, but on the lower front of the passenger door is quite a but 'sunk in' compared to the lower body line. I could adjust the door out on the bottom but my guess is it will catch on the fender towards the middle when opening if I do.
I'm not even going to bother with it, seen a few C7s that were worse than mine as far as that goes.
I'm not even going to bother with it, seen a few C7s that were worse than mine as far as that goes.
#8
Dealer adjusted the door today. Took all of 30 minutes.
Now it is perfect.
Hard to believe even with mass production line, most passenger doors I've seen were exactly like mine.
While I was waiting, I toured the dealer's lot which had about 15 C-7's on it.
Most of them needed my adjustment.
Keep in mind - This is not a cost issue, but it is a HUGH P.R. issue with GM's build quality.
I would never let a 100% cost free fix create such a caustic reputation on my company product's build quality.
Software issues with outside vendors in first year builds? I can understand that.
But something as simple and as stupid as this?
Hope someone at GM is listening.
Thanks for your message.
Now it is perfect.
Hard to believe even with mass production line, most passenger doors I've seen were exactly like mine.
While I was waiting, I toured the dealer's lot which had about 15 C-7's on it.
Most of them needed my adjustment.
Keep in mind - This is not a cost issue, but it is a HUGH P.R. issue with GM's build quality.
I would never let a 100% cost free fix create such a caustic reputation on my company product's build quality.
Software issues with outside vendors in first year builds? I can understand that.
But something as simple and as stupid as this?
Hope someone at GM is listening.
Thanks for your message.
#10
4 bolts, move the door forward 1/16 of an inch, and adjust or insert spacers in striker as needed.
If my car had not been under warranty, I would have done it myself.
Simple as that.
If my car had not been under warranty, I would have done it myself.
Simple as that.
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Nice! Now I'm absolutely going to get this taken care of. They weren't *completely* detailing the fix (they gave an overview, but it involved a lot of dis-assembly references), but that 7.5 hours made me think twice.
Glad you got it fixed (and let us know the results)!
Glad you got it fixed (and let us know the results)!
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They get pretty touchy about the advisories... Thankfully they let us get away with posting a lot of tech bulletins, but they do usually C&D you on advisories. I'll try to get you the document #.
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It's interesting that you posted this topic because I was reading my special edition Motor Trend Corvette magazine again. Inside there is a topic called assembly/plant tour. They show a picture of a GM woman who works in the plant using something to measure the door gaps. Below the picture it reads ( Panels are carefully gapped so a $52,000 Corvette looks far more expensive ). Guess not, also they have another picture they call the zebra room. It says, ( the zebra room uses multiple lights to reveal any imperfections in the paint. It's a very interesting magazine to read and a shame on how they let a lot of cars leave with all these issues but talk about how important it is that every car leaves the factory Perfect. If you didn't buy this magazine I would if you have the chance. Just talks about how the stingrays were born till now.
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"Look at the awesome vanity mirrors that we custom-machine from diamonds and the finest silver!"...
Meanwhile in a different room...
"Hey, nobody say anything, but we installed fun house mirrors by mistake. The customer won't notice, right?"
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Very true Theta. Very interesting that they would point out something so small and it's turning out to be very big. I also found the zebra room part interesting because they show the picture of a Stingray being looked at very carefully in that room by 3 employees but you hear of all the paint issues from small to big. Maybe it's a every other car or every third car or worse that gets the special treatment. Btw been following your SC thread, awesome job with pics and the write ups.
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You may be close to the actual truth there - they may just sample from the pool rather than do each one. Since they've ramped up production, they may not be able to support more screening than 10-20% (and even that would be a lot).
Unfortunately for that article, the very quote of "... so a $52,000 Corvette looks far more expensive..." sort of becomes its own undoing. Meanwhile, every Ferrari is put through a paint polish process which at the end uses a giant roller of (no BS) ostrich feathers and then passed to a team of inspectors. Point being, there has to be a middle ground.
As far as the paint, though... GM has always had peel and gel issues across 'Vettes, GTOs, etc.
Also, thanks.
Unfortunately for that article, the very quote of "... so a $52,000 Corvette looks far more expensive..." sort of becomes its own undoing. Meanwhile, every Ferrari is put through a paint polish process which at the end uses a giant roller of (no BS) ostrich feathers and then passed to a team of inspectors. Point being, there has to be a middle ground.
As far as the paint, though... GM has always had peel and gel issues across 'Vettes, GTOs, etc.
Also, thanks.
#19
My door rubs occasionally on the front edge (driver side) is there a "how to" make the adjustment myself?
#20
Same 4 hinge bolts, but move the door back a bit.
Honestly, I would take it to the dealer though since the window and striker also will need to be aligned properly.
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