LMR Breather Can Unboxing / Install Notes Thread
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Got held up on a few different parts. Thankfully, Jegs will be able to fill them by Friday.
I have the entire parts list compiled, but I want to check with LMR first to make sure I'm not doubling up on a few things.
LMR, sending you an e-mail.
I have the entire parts list compiled, but I want to check with LMR first to make sure I'm not doubling up on a few things.
LMR, sending you an e-mail.
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Hope my guys have answered any of your questions. Please call shop if you have any more. Guys, I would definitely recommend this system or ANY other system for that matter on boosted LT1 engines.
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Actually, a few things were waiting on the crew to get back from the event before they could be answered. I have a full parts list ready to go (along with pictures, etc) for everybody who wants to duplicate my setup, but I needed to get a reply on the e-mail about the incorrect hose ends sent with the breather.
With the straight -10AN hose ends, the lines hit the blower - no two ways about it. In the pics, the correct fittings are -10AN 45-degree hose ends. I sourced the correct hose ends (-10AN 45-degree) from Jegs, but before I listed those on the required/recommended parts list, I wanted to get in touch with somebody there and see if it was just a shipping mistake.
Here are a few pics (straight on left, correct 45-deg on right) to show what I mean in case I didn't make any sense...
With the straight -10AN hose ends, the lines hit the blower - no two ways about it. In the pics, the correct fittings are -10AN 45-degree hose ends. I sourced the correct hose ends (-10AN 45-degree) from Jegs, but before I listed those on the required/recommended parts list, I wanted to get in touch with somebody there and see if it was just a shipping mistake.
Here are a few pics (straight on left, correct 45-deg on right) to show what I mean in case I didn't make any sense...
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Here are some of the 'final' pics. Getting it buttoned up before finishing the SC install. Lots of extra time and pieces getting everything looking 'just right'. Still had to touch up the inevitable nicks in the hose ends from the wrenches.
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Actually, a few things were waiting on the crew to get back from the event before they could be answered. I have a full parts list ready to go (along with pictures, etc) for everybody who wants to duplicate my setup, but I needed to get a reply on the e-mail about the incorrect hose ends sent with the breather.
With the straight -10AN hose ends, the lines hit the blower - no two ways about it. In the pics, the correct fittings are -10AN 45-degree hose ends. I sourced the correct hose ends (-10AN 45-degree) from Jegs, but before I listed those on the required/recommended parts list, I wanted to get in touch with somebody there and see if it was just a shipping mistake.
Here are a few pics (straight on left, correct 45-deg on right) to show what I mean in case I didn't make any sense...
With the straight -10AN hose ends, the lines hit the blower - no two ways about it. In the pics, the correct fittings are -10AN 45-degree hose ends. I sourced the correct hose ends (-10AN 45-degree) from Jegs, but before I listed those on the required/recommended parts list, I wanted to get in touch with somebody there and see if it was just a shipping mistake.
Here are a few pics (straight on left, correct 45-deg on right) to show what I mean in case I didn't make any sense...
The kit was designed on our twin turbo car. This is why it had straights there instead of 45's. Supercharged cars will need 45's and we have made changes to the kit to accommodate that. All our kits now will be including 45's instead of straight hose ends. Sean, Sorry for the inconvenience, i hope Jay got you squared away like i told him to do.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
~Reid Sanders
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I'm actually thinking about getting it anodized, but not sure about a) where to get it done, or b) what method to use to cover the barbs and filter outlets.
Parts list coming a bit later - on a phone at the moment.
Parts list coming a bit later - on a phone at the moment.
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http://www.archwayanodize.com/
http://www.dynacraft-inc.com/
http://www.archmetal.com/
http://www.jerrysmetalfinishing.com/services.html
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It also replaces the car's PCV system and acts as a giant catch can for blowby gasses and oil buildup that we're already seeing a problem with in our cars.
Essentially, it kills two birds with one stone.
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If you’re super picky, then anodizing may not be for you. The welds will show up as a different shade. I can post pick of my intercooler that was anodized black, I did it for corrosion resistance though. Powder coating will be better choice if you want uniform finish.
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If you’re super picky, then anodizing may not be for you. The welds will show up as a different shade. I can post pick of my intercooler that was anodized black, I did it for corrosion resistance though. Powder coating will be better choice if you want uniform finish.
I think powder coating is the best bet - I've had ICs powder coated and they turned out great. The only worry I would have would be buildup in the logo weld, but I think it should be okay.
It also may be easier to find a powder coating company close(r) to me.
Thanks for that list, slief! I called 2 and no luck, but 1 did actually suggest powder coating instead.
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Alright, as promised, here is an optional list for general dress-up.
You can see that the kit comes with Pro 350 braided -10AN hose, but only includes standard Gates rubber hose for the -6AN connections. As LMR posted earlier, the 45-degree -10AN hose ends are now standard, so they have been left off of this list.
On the other end, you will need a T or Y adapter to split between the oil reservoir and the passenger-side rocker PCV fitting - you could use a cheap 3/8" T adapter and use clamps, etc. - I did that at first, but I wanted it to be dressier, as it's a nice showpiece.
For reference, this is for a supercharged C7, not turbocharged. These are all Jegs part numbers:
555-110312 | -6AN Flare Cap | $4.69 | Qty: 1
361-AT982406 | -6AN AnoTuff T Fitting | $13.99 | Qty: 1
555-110001 | -6AN Straight Hose End | $5.99 | Qty: 3
555-103301 | #6 Hose Finisher | $5.99 | Qty: 2
555-110011 | -6AN 45-Degree Hose End | $15.99 | Qty: 1
555-110911 | ProFlo 350 Braided Hose -6AN 6-Foot | $31.99 | Qty: 1
Total part cost is $96.61 shipped from Jegs. Up to you on the value side of things, but the improvement in looks, alone, was enough to spend the extra money.
Keep in mind that even if you don't go this route, you will need to source a T-line and hose or fuel clamps.
And finally, a diagrammed look at these parts...
You can see that the kit comes with Pro 350 braided -10AN hose, but only includes standard Gates rubber hose for the -6AN connections. As LMR posted earlier, the 45-degree -10AN hose ends are now standard, so they have been left off of this list.
On the other end, you will need a T or Y adapter to split between the oil reservoir and the passenger-side rocker PCV fitting - you could use a cheap 3/8" T adapter and use clamps, etc. - I did that at first, but I wanted it to be dressier, as it's a nice showpiece.
For reference, this is for a supercharged C7, not turbocharged. These are all Jegs part numbers:
555-110312 | -6AN Flare Cap | $4.69 | Qty: 1
361-AT982406 | -6AN AnoTuff T Fitting | $13.99 | Qty: 1
555-110001 | -6AN Straight Hose End | $5.99 | Qty: 3
555-103301 | #6 Hose Finisher | $5.99 | Qty: 2
555-110011 | -6AN 45-Degree Hose End | $15.99 | Qty: 1
555-110911 | ProFlo 350 Braided Hose -6AN 6-Foot | $31.99 | Qty: 1
Total part cost is $96.61 shipped from Jegs. Up to you on the value side of things, but the improvement in looks, alone, was enough to spend the extra money.
Keep in mind that even if you don't go this route, you will need to source a T-line and hose or fuel clamps.
And finally, a diagrammed look at these parts...
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The kit was designed on our twin turbo car. This is why it had straights there instead of 45's. Supercharged cars will need 45's and we have made changes to the kit to accommodate that. All our kits now will be including 45's instead of straight hose ends. Sean, Sorry for the inconvenience, i hope Jay got you squared away like i told him to do.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
~Reid Sanders
Let me know if you have any other questions.
~Reid Sanders
To anybody wondering what the means: LMR refunded me what I paid to Jegs for the two 45-degree -10AN fittings ($40) since it was easier than swapping them out.
And perhaps down the road I'll get a sticker and/or T-shirt out of it.
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Thank you! That was going to be my next question but I wasn't sure if it was a dumb question (dissimilar metals).
I think powder coating is the best bet - I've had ICs powder coated and they turned out great. The only worry I would have would be buildup in the logo weld, but I think it should be okay.
It also may be easier to find a powder coating company close(r) to me.
Thanks for that list, slief! I called 2 and no luck, but 1 did actually suggest powder coating instead.
I think powder coating is the best bet - I've had ICs powder coated and they turned out great. The only worry I would have would be buildup in the logo weld, but I think it should be okay.
It also may be easier to find a powder coating company close(r) to me.
Thanks for that list, slief! I called 2 and no luck, but 1 did actually suggest powder coating instead.
I wouldn’t powder coat an intercooler as it will inhibit thermal transfer. On the other hand, anodizing microscopically etches surface, which some believe increases thermal transfer due to additional surface area and turbulence – this was my reasoning along with corrosion resistance. Also quality core manufacturers like Bell do a mild natural anodize after oven brazing.
Oh, I’d ask for a semi-gloss lightly textured finish, hides imperfections if powder coating.
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This relieves the crank case pressure which builds up with FI and is already causing seals to leak, etc.
It also replaces the car's PCV system and acts as a giant catch can for blowby gasses and oil buildup that we're already seeing a problem with in our cars.
Essentially, it kills two birds with one stone.
It also replaces the car's PCV system and acts as a giant catch can for blowby gasses and oil buildup that we're already seeing a problem with in our cars.
Essentially, it kills two birds with one stone.