Are manual transmissions sought after?
#81
Team Owner
A dealer will literally tell you anything to low ball your trade, or, to sell you a car. I'm not a new buyer, or trade-in. I've been buying new cars for 50 years. From new Cadillac, Corvettes, Lincoln, Mercedes-Benz. Dealers aren't a reliable source for anything other than to sell you vehicles.
#82
Burning Brakes
A dealer will literally tell you anything to low ball your trade, or, to sell you a car. I'm not a new buyer, or trade-in. I've been buying new cars for 50 years. From new Cadillac, Corvettes, Lincoln, Mercedes-Benz. Dealers aren't a reliable source for anything other than to sell you vehicles.
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Redsoxnation (03-04-2024)
#83
The trouble I have with your argument as well as those above you with a similar argument is that no automatic equipped Corvette from any generation behind C7 sells for more than a manual. This is especially true of the C1 and C2 generations. Few want old Corvettes with an automatic. I understand the late automatics are light-years ahead of the Powerglide but still the disparity remains. I believe as the future rolls out manual transmission Corvettes will continue ahead of automatics in desirability and value.
It's an opinion. I'll stick to it. Pun unintended.
Dan
It's an opinion. I'll stick to it. Pun unintended.
Dan
On the other hand, I'm not sure the younger generations are that interested in Corvettes older than the C5. The C1-C3 sales are likely still generated by older guys, who won't be in the market for a late model C7 anyways.
I'm not arguing so much as thinking out loud. Of course I want my C7 M7 to be worth more than other people's C7's ... ;-)
" In 2021, stick shift enthusiasts comprised only 0.9% of the U.S. auto market. By 2022, that number jumped to 1.2%, and sales figures for the first few months of 2023 indicate that the proportion has already hit 1.7%. This is still very marginal, but it does represent an increase of nearly 89%. The phenomenon also seems to be visible on the used car market, as the Autotrader website records a 13% increase in visits to manual transmission pages compared to last year."
Demand for manual transmission demands are making a noticed increase among automakers. Wish I knew the reason why. Either old farts like us are buying that many more new cars (impossible) or younger buyers are seeing the fun and enjoy the experience. Either way, having a manual C7 isn't going to be a negative during resale anytime soon.
https://www.guideautoweb.com/en/arti...nearly%2089%25
Demand for manual transmission demands are making a noticed increase among automakers. Wish I knew the reason why. Either old farts like us are buying that many more new cars (impossible) or younger buyers are seeing the fun and enjoy the experience. Either way, having a manual C7 isn't going to be a negative during resale anytime soon.
https://www.guideautoweb.com/en/arti...nearly%2089%25
I truly hope that C8 DCT is better than the herky jerky DCT (and SMG's) I've driven. In traffic those are no good. On the hand, the DCT in my Africa Twin was seamless in traffic. Not sure why some brands can't figure it out.
#84
Burning Brakes
I've driven a couple C8s on the track, and the DCT was spectacular. I'm hardly an expert, but the pro reviews have compared it very favorably to the Porsche PDK in operation. On the other hand, they have had some reliability issues. Also, the required maintenance on the C8 DCT is frequent and expensive. Fluid is like $45 a quart, and the 12 quarts need to be replaced every 3 years. Plus a $300 filter.
Last edited by sjw91; 03-04-2024 at 12:07 PM.
#85
Burning Brakes
After reading this article about manuals bringing more than autos I went on the local Market Place on FB to see what it is like here near Atlanta. I didn't find one single manual and almost no true convertibles. I say true because some are T-tops and to me, aren't a real convertibles. Out of approximately 100 cars for sale, only four were convertibles. To find a truly rare combo in my area would be a real convertible with an M7. I also agree with the suggestion that dealers are not looking for M7s because they are not popular with most people. Private sales probably are different because of the rarity of M7s.
#86
Burning Brakes
I did a quick cars.com nationwide search for 2019 Stingrays for sale. 107 cars found, and 23 were manuals - so ratio is about the same as production. I'm not about to study what options they all have on them, but the automatics actually seem to be listed about $2k more than the manuals. But they're all in the same price range, so it's probably about even.
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Redsoxnation (03-04-2024)
#87
Sounds right-on. ^^^^
The automatic transmission Corvettes are an easier/slam dunk sale, than the straight-drive Corvettes. Hence, the straight-drives are a more difficult sale, and, the automatics will garner MORE.
FWIW.....The automatic transmission C7s had a $2K higher MSRP list as an Optional add-on.
The automatic transmission Corvettes are an easier/slam dunk sale, than the straight-drive Corvettes. Hence, the straight-drives are a more difficult sale, and, the automatics will garner MORE.
FWIW.....The automatic transmission C7s had a $2K higher MSRP list as an Optional add-on.
#88
Team Owner
I did a quick cars.com nationwide search for 2019 Stingrays for sale. 107 cars found, and 23 were manuals - so ratio is about the same as production. I'm not about to study what options they all have on them, but the automatics actually seem to be listed about $2k more than the manuals. But they're all in the same price range, so it's probably about even.
#90
Team Owner
For who? A pro thief? Would not even slow him down. Back in 1950, it was easy to hotwire the car but I don't think it is that easy today. Biggest problem a joyride thief would have. Pro thief would be able to drive it off.
#91
Pro
#92
Burning Brakes
I really don't know what you're saying. There's nothing to sign up for. They just list cars for sale, and those are the asking prices from dealers and private sellers. Once sold, they aren't shown anymore.
#93
Team Owner
Top right hand corner has a "sign in". I didn't know if you can see what it sold for but I didn't want to go further. Sold price tells me more than what you want to get for it, hence the question.
#94
Burning Brakes
#95
Melting Slicks
As someone mentioned earlier and I started a thread on it one time, just look at BAT auction site. The manuals command a premium in the same car. The ZR1's really show it as the manuals were some times getting 30K more vs the same car with the auto. And like I said another time, I have a 2019 GS M7 2LT with low miles. If I wanted to sell it and you found the exact car only with the auto, you are going to pay me $2500-$3500 more for mine. And you know what, I will get it.
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NortonCO (03-31-2024)
#96
Team Owner
As someone mentioned earlier and I started a thread on it one time, just look at BAT auction site. The manuals command a premium in the same car. The ZR1's really show it as the manuals were some times getting 30K more vs the same car with the auto. And like I said another time, I have a 2019 GS M7 2LT with low miles. If I wanted to sell it and you found the exact car only with the auto, you are going to pay me $2500-$3500 more for mine. And you know what, I will get it.
#97
As someone mentioned earlier and I started a thread on it one time, just look at BAT auction site. The manuals command a premium in the same car. The ZR1's really show it as the manuals were some times getting 30K more vs the same car with the auto. And like I said another time, I have a 2019 GS M7 2LT with low miles. If I wanted to sell it and you found the exact car only with the auto, you are going to pay me $2500-$3500 more for mine. And you know what, I will get it.
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NortonCO (03-31-2024)
#98
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by aklim;1607591569[b
][/b]I don't know if it makes $3500 difference to everyone. Some people, yes. Everyone, probably not.
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NortonCO (03-31-2024)